Hi all!! Just a quick one.. How much bhp can u get out of a c1j? I.e standard block and forged. What's the most you've heard one running?
Sorry for the special question I just believe I'm being blagged by a lad I no.
Cheerss boyos!
Hi all!! Just a quick one.. How much bhp can u get out of a c1j? I.e standard block and forged. What's the most you've heard one running?
Sorry for the special question I just believe I'm being blagged by a lad I no.
Cheerss boyos!
all depends on set up i.e carb or efi even a big nos kit.i think you could see 250bhp maybe from a good efi setup. i heard all the my mates 5 storys over the years.think i was told once 300bhp from a gt on carb so who knowsOriginally Posted by jamie_clioGTT
glen hi5 is pushing the boundaries of the c1j atm
dont go on just bhp either its how fast you can get the thing to accelerate.
torque...
Yeah I appreciate its about torque and getting the power down but I'm just after figures so I can wise up and not be blagged if you understand? Just want to no of the most powerfull c1j's you've heard of.
Thanks again.
take a look at the gianni santi vids. think one of them says his bhp somewhere. what mods and how accurate i dont know.
c1j was in more that just a gt turbo.once youve wised up on the c1j you will learn it's not all about bhp and that every one and there mate has had a gt with over 300bhp
For what it's worth i ran a T28, Forge FMIC, re jetted carb, stock bottom end.
174bhp-176ft/lbs at 18psi.
13.9@102mph at the Pod day in 2008
~240hp on std compression P&L's, std bottom end, std head & valvetrain, and std venturi.
21psi = 112mph traps. I think that still tops the low ish boost pressure vs trap speed table, NOS aside.
Great load of information!! Thanks a lot. I'm gunna take the lads 400 odd bhp as clown poo then!!
You can up the bhp by adding some bling, a couple dump valves.. some neons and a bass box.
Ive also heard that if you rub ronald macdonald up the right way you get a shot of his nos
That's great news. I've just purchased some flashy dust caps so sure they will count for something also.
Yup i can confirm this is true mate.You can up the bhp by adding some bling, a couple dump valves.. some neons and a bass box.
Ive also heard that if you rub ronald macdonald up the right way you get a shot of his nos
i took of my chrome wheels and fitted some clio 15" standards after doing this i only had 410bhp so i put the chrome's back on now back up to 612bhp .
also my dvd player packed up the other day so i replaced it with a standard stereo i didnt have enough cash left over to put it back on the rollers but i can say it felt alot slower.
I THINK Gm general terms with a T-25 OR T28 WITH About 18 to 20 lbs of boost you WILL be looking at about 175 - 200 bhp.
I THINK Gm general terms with a T-25 OR T28 WITH About 18 to 20 lbs of boost you WILL be looking at about 175 - 200 bhp.
The most I've seen from a C1J is 419 BHP.......... on a rolling road
most the folks certainly the ones local just talk poo jamie, ive heard some of the most silly things down this one.. one guy (and this is serious) told me he was running so much boost it required hugeeee jubiless around the whole engine and the head... obviously the head bolts wernt up to much..
http://www.streetrace.co.uk/forum/sh...hlight=renault
interesting one there.. reading the spec the engine sounds quite nice, when you see its just a mess, often its not the owners of the cars fault though, i think its just what there told, either by tuners or the guys they buy the car/engines off.
Also if its that guy who used to drive the mk1 escort rs aswell (think he owns a cossie apparatnly) he also told me his came onto boost twice and reved to 10krpm and beyond... Tom whos usually with me can also vouch for that, as we both looked in sheer disbelief at the **** rolling from his mouth..
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Think everyone has had it at some point. When I got my car it was 210bhp on a standard t2live and learn
Lol, I remember before I got my first GTT, I was looking on the K-Tec website, building a list of things I could buy. Luckily I didn't have the money at the time!Think everyone has had it at some point. When I got my car it was 210bhp on a standard t2
Does anyone remember the one in Max Power many moons ago that had 550bhp?
It had a K-Tec 350bhp
Is that the one which blew the engine up when getting that figure on the rolling road, or the max power one where he has changed the head gasket 40+ timesDoes anyone remember the one in Max Power many moons ago that had 550bhp?
It had a K-Tec 350bhp
Is that the one which blew the engine up when getting that figure on the rolling road, or the max power one where he has changed the head gasket 40+ times
changing the head gasket 40+ times
I can't remember that much detail.....or the max power one where he has changed the head gasket 40+ times
That sounds like Sparkie though
gianni santi,glenn hi 5 & scoff's old c1j were all surely over a genuine 300hp i would think? possibly more?
Not forgetting Stuart Clark as well.
I had to learn the hard way unfortunately. I had the money and yes I spent it. K-tec have about 5k of my money! What a moron I was!! I really wish I had joined this site before I did that.
Surely it would have to be forged after a certain amount of power?
npt sure on what the limit is with the c1j but from what i see its not to hard to get it around 200-220bhp which i think is about perfect for a gtt
jeaus are you sure ????? i was told 370 would like to see one at 419bhpThe most I've seen from a C1J is 419 BHP.......... on a rolling road
Does anyone remember the one in Max Power many moons ago that had 550bhp?
It had a K-Tec 350bhp
anyone got any pics of this i would like to see that
550bhp with nos thats metal
him too!
sorry stu!
Does anyone remember the one in Max Power many moons ago that had 550bhp?
It had a K-Tec 350bhp
I remember him very well, he's from my way.
I've had run ins with him, what a crock of crap that comes out of his mouth! Doesn't have a clue.
I have the mag with his car in it here, reading the spec its alot of tuner BS and with the spec is realisticly no more than 230-240bhp but according to him its 550bhp and nothing out there would beat it.
Also that run he apparently did 550bhp on, he split the head in half.
I think if i forced enough nitrous through a C1J to point of descruction to get huge power claim can i say i have most powerful!
i saw jaffa get 280bhp without NOS on two rolling road days.
i also saw Glen T get 365bhp with NOS on the rollers ( at power station?)
Is this the one you mean mate?
https://rtoc.org/files/Magazine%20Art...2003%20002.png
That was Danny Fennel of DD Autopsort.
Yeah but wasn't Glen the brains behind the car's back then! Trev had left for gay-tec and it was Glens work that Danny was selling!
Ah yes very true, they did both work there for bit didn't they untill place got broken into and then shut down little while later.
The golden rule here being that you should almost never believe anything that an RR has to say.
Maybe you can trust it if it's a brand new, top of the line Dyno Dynamics but if the geezas got some old sun roadamatic or bosch 202 in his floor that hasn't been calibrated in 10 yeas then I'd be walking away
As the guys have said, 240hp on a standard internal engine is about the limit. Even that takes some accurate tuning, a good cam and a T28 to achieve. Mart always used to do very well at such relitively small amounts of boost, but most folk find it hard to make 240hp no matter how much boost they run.
Stuart clark has to be No.1 carburetted C1J BHP guy in the UK. He will have had an honest 300+ hp to make the trap speeds he was doing. As he prooved to himself though its nigh on impossible to go any better than that even when he added nitrous and found he went no quicker.
Finally now that we have an EFI powered C1J owner willing to push (or should I say let me push !!) his engine to the limits (Glenn HI5) we are able to see what additional power the C1J can make with the tiny carburettor removed. Glenn's engine is pretty hardcore in terms of build but essentially still runs a standard-ish cylinder head and a common as muck Piper 285 cam at standard timing. It makes 270hp or so @ 32psi boost, day in day out (you can literally pin your foot to the floor in 5th gear, get right up to the rev limiter and not have to worry about anything letting go!) and about 400hp with nitrous switched on. With a carb that would have been very hard to do.
What interested me the most with EFI on the C1J is that up to about 25psi of boost (in Glenn's case) the power output was comparable to that of a well setup carburettor engine. But where as most carb fed C1J's refuse to make any more power past that sort of boost the EFI engine would just keep going and going, responding to more and more boost. We've been able to go right up to the point where reversion has become the biggest problem and so now we're trying a new (actually my old C1J) camshaft to see if it'll help with that.
There you go, probably the longest post I've done for months
really good informative post there
The golden rule here being that you should almost never believe anything that an RR has to say.
Maybe you can trust it if it's a brand new, top of the line Dyno Dynamics but if the geezas got some old sun roadamatic or bosch 202 in his floor that hasn't been calibrated in 10 yeas then I'd be walking away
As the guys have said, 240hp on a standard internal engine is about the limit. Even that takes some accurate tuning, a good cam and a T28 to achieve. Mart always used to do very well at such relitively small amounts of boost, but most folk find it hard to make 240hp no matter how much boost they run.
Stuart clark has to be No.1 carburetted C1J BHP guy in the UK. He will have had an honest 300+ hp to make the trap speeds he was doing. As he prooved to himself though its nigh on impossible to go any better than that even when he added nitrous and found he went no quicker.
Finally now that we have an EFI powered C1J owner willing to push (or should I say let me push !!) his engine to the limits (Glenn HI5) we are able to see what additional power the C1J can make with the tiny carburettor removed. Glenn's engine is pretty hardcore in terms of build but essentially still runs a standard-ish cylinder head and a common as muck Piper 285 cam at standard timing. It makes 270hp or so @ 32psi boost, day in day out (you can literally pin your foot to the floor in 5th gear, get right up to the rev limiter and not have to worry about the anything letting go!) and about 400hp with nitrous switched on. With a carb that would have been very hard to do.
What interested me the most with EFI on the C1J is that up to about 25psi of boost (in Glenn's case) the power output was comparable to that of a well setup carburettor engine. But where as most carb fed C1J's refuse to make any more power past that sort of boost the EFI engine would just keep going and going, responding to more and more boost. We've been able to go right up to the point where reversion has become the biggest problem and so now we're trying a new (actually my old C1J) camshaft to see if it'll help with that.
There you go, probably the longest post I've done for months
Pah.. what would Scoff know!? K-Tec is where you want to be putting your moneyreally good informative post there
haha yeah lets all go to ktec
yeah, im in the top photo at the back....
*Waits for the 'close but no cigar' quotes from that Redline RR day...*
that is nothing . we had a south west meet a few year back . one kid who came . no names mentioned [ but he is on here] jesus in the seat knows who i'm on about . think he said he was running 26 bar of boost . must make the bhp fgure in the region of 1050 bhp or getting on that way . so yeah mate 400bhp from standard engine not a problem .
Lovin' Eugein's hair in that picyeah, im in the top photo at the back....
Well it was you who claimed you had 270bhp*Waits for the 'close but no cigar' quotes from that Redline RR day...*
Eug looks about 14 in that pic
I was misquoted.
'course you were sweetheart
I was misquoted.
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