anyone care to explain?
anyone care to explain?
And location ?
ahh my location was deleted for advertising i assume? back now though. still would like to know where my PRIVATE messages have gone
Will look into the issue
i would appreciate that, odd that its only mine that seem to have gone?
Lee, perhaps you can also look into why my board moderator status has been removed, without so much as a PM from the Committee person who carried it out?
I'm not saying it is an option here, but all pm's can be read by admins through the cp panel.
Nothing is secret
Told ya AdeyOriginally Posted by ScottKinnear
Here we go again
Will do Mart
RTOC police state!
well someone top level has done something and it needs to be sorted
id click like but i cant see that option here lolTold ya Adey
Here we go again
Told ya Adey
Here we go again
I hope not. I think the rank and file are simply not interested in the politics that have been going on around here but if this is more than just an innocent mistake it would be the last straw.
Hahaha. I'll pm u on rtof.... THIS I'm sure is one of the reasons rtof is building members.
its not the first time issues with messages being read has come up
You were correct in your first breath, it is not an option here
I disagree.
Your probably right mate, but I never give moderators the option to see that either in there c panel.
I for one certainly have never had access to anyone elses messages etc.
As above. I've got no control over anyone's messages
who was the last person in there who changed my location? maybe they know something?
Not the only one
Poor show if this is been done on purpose....
We will loose long standing members, loyal club members, and not just those you want rid off...
Members are fed up with reading all this stuff... And will leave the club
No they can't. You should check information like that before you post it. Some might read that as you trying to trigger a backlash.
Agree ,what the hell is going on at the moment with the club and its committee ??? Some ones got a bee in there five by the sounds of it , very poor show
Scoff is right...
I had most access, it was not possible for me to read pm's...
Well there is a hack, but would make it very obvious for the person who I wanted to hack....
You don't always need a hack, from what I can see db access is enough to get into them if someone wanted, there are legal and moral complications of doing this though.
http://www.vbulletin.org/forum/showthread.php?t=299006
If your the admin scoff, you know it can be done. There is no traceability of it being done. Every message written in pm is available to see. It's also written into most skins as standard.
Whether it's available here in the c panel would be up to the person who set it up for you at the very start. It's just about choosing what you want too see.
I was just responding to a members post. The fact his pm's disappeared would indicate his right to use them was taken away. I was just saying that doesn't need to happen to read pm's. That's done else where.
Hope that's cleared up( just be careful who's watching you. Not just here but on them all.
I should add. It might be available as a plug in and never installed in which case scoff would be spot on
Last edited by ScottKinnear; 09-01-2014 at 06:59.
They in theory could , but ethically not right to do. Its also a bit of hassle.
I have no fears that the RTOC committee can read any ones PMs but their own.
What the hell is going on with this club at the minute, all it ever seems to be is arguements arguements and more arguements about the same sort of shit. I think there are a fair few members on here who need to give there head a shake and stop shit stirring. Also if one of the committee or who ever has made this mistake be it genuine or not needs to grow a pair and hold there hand up!!!!!! Sick of reading this bs now
I'm getting a bit fedup of all of the bitching on Rtoc, didn't used to be like this. Feels like Rtoc has turned into Cliosport
RIGHT WHOS GOING TO OWN UP TO GOING INTO MY PROFILE? CHANGING MY LOCATION AND DISABLING MY PRIVATE MESSAGES?!!!!!
some ones done it and you need to hold you hands up! that is not on in the slightestim assuming theres a log of activity and id like someone to take a look into who has done it and an explanation
It's a joke.RIGHT WHOS GOING TO OWN UP TO GOING INTO MY PROFILE? CHANGING MY LOCATION AND DISABLING MY PRIVATE MESSAGES?!!!!!
some ones done it and you need to hold you hands up! that is not on in the slightest
Really is, when ever I edited permissions or banned people I always messaged them to let them know what and why.
Adey has done nothing wrong COMMITEE, long standing member... All car forums look the same.
Feel free to ban mr aswell, the way things are going not going to be much of a club left,..
No one here at RTOC has higher vBulletin admin permissions that I do and I was not aware it was even possible to read members PM's.
Assess to the site files and database via FTP, or anything, is restricted to only two or three people, me being one. The other two set up the website and I'd guess, would have no time, never mind reason or interest, in retrieving individual PMs.
As far as I can tell there are no plug-ins, or anything else, installed here to enable it.
As far as I know, the last time "issues with messages being read has come up" was about 2005(?) on the old site? Never before or since?
Such a facility WOULD be useful as when I was deleting spammers 7 days every week, up until the talk of a rival website 4 weeks or so ago and joking or otherwise, the inference that this site was about to be undermined and all the hard work reduced to nothing, I was also deleting spammers private messages so they didn't sit there for ever clogging the database, as deleting an account does not delete the messages. It would have be useful to see when the messages were if more than just the welcome message.
Also where people have been banned for, basically, thieving from members via the classifieds, it would have been useful, maybe helped us get some money back for whatever.
ok and a response to who changed my settings? the log of who went in there?
Yes, but again just to be clear to everyone, it isn't available here.http://www.vbulletin.org/forum/showthread.php?t=299006
If your the admin scoff, you know it can be done. There is no traceability of it being done. Every message written in pm is available to see. It's also written into most skins as standard.
Whether it's available here in the c panel would be up to the person who set it up for you at the very start. It's just about choosing what you want too see.
I was just responding to a members post. The fact his pm's disappeared would indicate his right to use them was taken away. I was just saying that doesn't need to happen to read pm's. That's done else where.
Hope that's cleared up
I should add. It might be available as a plug in and never installed in which case scoff would be spot on
It isn't available in adminCP, even to top Administrators, of which there are very few anyway, meaning the only possible way would be to enter the database and rummage round until I found what I wanted. Only me or Gordon could do that, and I'm sure I can say on Gordon's behalf too that neither of us have any interest in that at all
By 'they' I mean the committee and admin, and 'they' can't, with the exception of Gordon perhaps but I'm confident he's no time or interest in that.
The last thing we need now is people thinking that their private messages are being read too.
good to know but someone did go in and change stuff in my profile, my location and turned of private messaging, is anyone looking at the logs to see who did it?
No, no - I clarified that in my last statement Scoff.
I said they could. They being them who have permissions. I have no idea what has and hasnt been installed as an addon.
I also said I dont think they would.
Any way around , there are not T&C written by RTOC expressed or otherwise that say they will or wont access messages.
Just to reiterate , I dont think the committee do read messages.
ok so im starting to think something fishy is going on here, 4 committee members have posted in here and at least 6 have viewed the thread, only one has said they will look into it yet no one has given an answer at all. That's nigh on 50% of those in charge have seen this yet nothing is being said, in fact it almost looks like im being actively ignored?
Its really not on that someone upstairs can get in and mess things about like that and i will continue to keep bringing it up, you cant get this brushed under the carpet like all the other threads!
Well something must have happened to the site Adey, I was upgraded to Moderator status yesterday & could move threads about etc, today I can't but I can still warn members
So maybe a problem with the site ?
a moderator should be able to do them things?
to much of a coincidence for my liking, my location was deleted at the same time, and i know that was deleted
as a mod can you not see if its actually being discussed?
Mods can't see the committee boards... Can see the bad threads page...
I wonder if who ever changed Adey's settings actually told/had the committee permission to do so, or whether it was just some sort of drunken mistake/committee powertrip/abuse of powers, abuse of trust
even then all they need to do is come forward and hold there hands up and say sorry. there are usually logs for this sort of thing so im sure they could be looked at?
Might be wise to pm miller, he has been active lately and having a clean out.
I would of thought that one of the 4 CM's in here would of made it known to him and the rest of the Committee as they were going to look into it...
There are logs.
Assuming the relevant people can get into the admin panel ( Scoff - who can ? ) the logs can be viewed under Statistics and Logs then Moderator logs. This views all post moderation.
For profiles its a bit different.
Log into the CP and there is a user finder , find the user.
Note just to the right in small letters there is view change history.
You can then view who changed what.
Hmm, that appears to just tell the usergroups. Not profile changes.
You got to the bottom of this yet Adey?
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