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    R5GTT Project - Off the road since Sept 1998

    Hello Folks,

    Well, I've finally got round to it. Lurking in my garage for the past 15 years,
    almost to the day is my old R5GTT. It had served me well for several years
    before I bought myself a brand new Megane Alizé in September 1998.

    Of course, the intention of keeping it on the road was always there, but I got
    overtaken by events, not least with my health, progress of my disability, etc.
    Anyway, after a very long while of not even setting eyes on the car, simply
    because the path was overgrown on the garden side and an old tree stump
    blocking the outside garage entrance, I finally regained access.

    What I found was relatively surprising! The car was in far better shape than I
    had imagined it might be. The restoration will be done by the guy who looked
    after this car for me when it was on the road. He came round to give the car
    a quick survey today and he even got the engine turning over.

    The oil was still remarkably clean and the coolant was still bright green! It
    seems that I've been hugely lucky that the car hasn't just disintegrated. I
    guess that was partly because it was well looked after when it was road
    worthy. It looks like that's paid-off handsomely for me!

    Now that the thread has grown to such a size, you might prefer to watch
    these compilation videos of the restoration progress. They should look quite
    good full-screen..

    This is part #1. So pour yourself a suitable libation and enjoy...



    This is part 2 which takes us up to 20 January 2014

    R5GTT Restoration Part 2

    ...and this is part 3 which brings us to 24 April 2014

    R5GTT Restoration Part 3

    ... Part 4 sees the engine started for the first time, the revamp of the car's home
    and its triumphant return complete with brand new MOT

    R5GTT Restoration Part 4

    Part 5 sees the car get a basic detail, visit Snetterton Racecourse and get taken
    back into the workshop to get its glass and body-trims removed...

    R5GTT Restoration Part 5

    Otherwise, I'll let the photos take up the story...





















    So, that's the body not looking in too bad shape. The main worry was the
    scuttle below the windscreen, but that only seems to be showing light
    surface rust. We'll be taking the screen out to have a better look in due
    course, but there's no cause for concern :thumb:

    The wheels will want a refurb...





    The biggest surprise was under the bonnet! That completely belies 15years
    of neglect. I suppose that betrays me as a long-term detailer





    I could not believe how clean the battery terminals were! I was expecting
    them to be furred-up completely...





    Something decided to nest in the sound dampening pad below the bonnet,
    though not much damage caused...



    Here's the scuttle close-up! That's probably the most expensive bit to get
    repaired if the tin-worm gets its way - phew!!



    It looks like a cat has been after the nest-building mice...



    So, now to the clean-up. The following photos are showing nothing more than
    a very quick clean, using ONR from the QD bottle, some Serious Performance
    cleaning QD and a half-bucket of water with 2 capfuls of CG Hose-Free Eco
    in it. A noodle mitt and a small selection of MF cloths for wiping and drying.



    The door window cleaned for a first glimpse of the interior in I don't know
    how long...



    Then 4 views of the interior. Not bad, bar the few cobwebs :thumb:









    Now 3 views of the passenger side door-shut. Some minor tin-worm evidence!







    The bit that I'm still very cross about. I parked the car in a council car park
    and when I reversed out caught part of the footing of an ancient ice-cream
    stall. WDC denied all knowledge!:wall:



    So, I've got the door clean...



    Now the front wing. Thats just an ONR / HFE combination clean - honest!









    A cheeky 50/50 :lol:



    ...and now the bits I was really dreading. Of course, the exhaust system is
    going to need replacing, but otherwise, things under there don't look too bad.
    Nothing was falling off when the door got closed. The floorpan is remarkably
    solid, so it's not going to be an horrendously expensive restoration.











    I'll be updating this thread over the coming weeks. The next stage is to put
    in a new battery, plugs, some new petrol etc., and get the engine started.
    It'll then be moved to a new location for work to begin.

    If anyone can help, I'm looking for a genuine front air-dam to replace the
    broken one and a driver's side door...

    Regards,
    Steve
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    Re: R5GTT Project - Off the road since Sept 1998

    jammy git! i can hadly get away with a car layin up 1 year! this will be another one to watch!
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    Re: R5GTT Project - Off the road since Sept 1998

    Excellent thread. So original.
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    Re: R5GTT Project - Off the road since Sept 1998

    That's pretty cool seeing the car as it was after being stood after 15 years as you say doesn't look bad at all the underside looks very good especially. love the 50/50 shots where you have cleaned parts of the bodywork..Nice to see the engine bay looking tidy and original and complete.will check out your progress nice to see another original GT uncovered and brought back to life cheeky little red pin stripes as well best of luck looks a nice project especially as you owned the car beforehand sure that will be very rewarding for you when she's all done and you are boosting along on a summers evening....
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    Re: R5GTT Project - Off the road since Sept 1998

    Quote Originally Posted by Flight666 View Post
    That's pretty cool seeing the car as it was after being stood after 15 years as you say doesn't look bad at all the underside looks very good especially. love the 50/50 shots where you have cleaned parts of the bodywork..Nice to see the engine bay looking tidy and original and complete.will check out your progress nice to see another original GT uncovered and brought back to life cheeky little red pin stripes as well best of luck looks a nice project especially as you owned the car beforehand sure that will be very rewarding for you when she's all done and you are boosting along on a summers evening....
    totally agree with nic.... love the stereo tooo...
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    Re: R5GTT Project - Off the road since Sept 1998

    Quote Originally Posted by jesus in the seat of a 5 View Post
    ...love the stereo tooo...
    It's a pure 1980's Philips tape deck and I still have the tape box that jams twixt the
    front seats, with its fold-down flap...



    You might guess I have a Bose sound system in the 205GTT Coupe
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    How jealous am I!!!! It really wouldn't take much to make this such a lovely crispy oe minter! I hope it gives you as much joy as it did the first time round!
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    Re: R5GTT Project - Off the road since Sept 1998

    I dream of finding something like this one day and getting hold of it ...

    Yours has aged remarkably well

    Look forward to seeing it live again, whats it's mileage?
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    Re: R5GTT Project - Off the road since Sept 1998

    Love this thread..Looking forward to keeping an eye on this project.
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    Re: R5GTT Project - Off the road since Sept 1998

    This is fantastic
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    Re: R5GTT Project - Off the road since Sept 1998

    Quote Originally Posted by 45_CB View Post
    Look forward to seeing it live again, whats it's mileage?
    69K in 8 years. I only took it off the road because I fancied the Megane
    and its much smoother ride. Being disabled, the R5 was jarring on longer
    runs. I do feel very lucky though; None of the rubber pipes look to have
    perished, though that might become a different story once the engine
    starts and things warm up again.

    I'll be replacing the braking system. New lines, disks and pads, etc. I've
    been looking at various options, as I guess the Renault originals are long
    gone, or hugely expensive. The EBC brakes with greenstuff pads work out
    at about Ł166 with the RTOC discount. As the car won't be tracked, are
    the GS pads overkill? Should I go for Brembo's instead or are they overkill + ?

    I'm guessing that I'm gonna have loads of questions like this. Has anyone
    else done a similar resto? If so, do please point me toward your thread.
    Cheers

    Regards,
    Steve

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    Re: R5GTT Project - Off the road since Sept 1998

    New poster! (less than 10 posts)

    Excellent project. Looking forward to seeing this progress
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    Re: R5GTT Project - Off the road since Sept 1998

    Steve - I popped some EBC yellows up front and Exeleiums at the rear and both grip well. If you're not tracking her I'd go with the exceliums all round, cheap and effective stopping (too effective in my case )
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    Re: R5GTT Project - Off the road since Sept 1998

    Hi Andy,
    Cheers for your reply.
    Quote Originally Posted by TNT ANDY View Post
    Steve - I popped some EBC yellows up front and Exeleiums at the rear and both grip well. If you're not tracking her I'd go with the exceliums all round, cheap and effective stopping (too effective in my case )
    Do you have a link?

    Someone on the Detailing World Forum suggested that I get _all_ my spares from Mike
    at GTTS, including the brake parts. Sounds like a simple solution. It would certainly save
    me hours and hours of chasing my tail on t'interweb...

    Regards,
    Steve
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    Re: R5GTT Project - Off the road since Sept 1998

    Good to see you and the project on here Steve

    I can't wait to see how it unfolds.
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    Re: R5GTT Project - Off the road since Sept 1998

    Quote Originally Posted by scratcher View Post
    Good to see you and the project on here Steve

    I can't wait to see how it unfolds.
    Well, it's gonna be expensive!

    Regards,
    Steve
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    Re: R5GTT Project - Off the road since Sept 1998

    Watching this closely. Great project,

    Link to my thread here if its any help

    https://www.rtoc.org/boards/showthrea...ghlight=Johnny
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    Re: R5GTT Project - Off the road since Sept 1998

    Great thread Steve, looks in good shape after a 15 year rest!
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    Parts Gathering...

    Hello Folks,

    As November 1st approaches, the day the car gets moved, I'm quite quickly
    building quite a cache of parts. So, my first haul was a carb kit and a couple
    of OEM oil filters...



    The next challenge was an exhaust system at a reasonable price. For a mild
    steel OEM I was quoted Ł450 - so I set to and scoured t'interweb
    to find this in stainless steel for just Ł175 delivered...





    Yeah, you _can_ laugh! 3.5" bore, while not OEM it _was_ all the rage in the
    early 1990s - that's my excuse anyway!

    Then it was a trip to an Alladin's Cave down south to purchase lots of little
    niggly bits, various cables, OEM fuel filter, dizzy cap, rotor arm etc. The
    braided cables were a group buy on RTOC for Ł35 delivered.



    What's not pictured is the replacement front bumper, in tungsten, and a
    complete set of brake disks with new rear bearings. That lot came to Ł370.
    The remaining brake parts will be ordered once we remove what's presently
    there.

    As the suspension is being fiddled with, I've decided to replace the shocks.
    No point in doing a similar job in two parts if the existing bits decide to fail.
    Finding front shock absorbers at an affordable price was quite a task. Found
    these for Ł52 delivered...



    There will be another instalment later in the week. I've now assembled most
    of the replacement bits that are needed. Including the bits ordered today,
    the parts bill so far comes to over Ł870 :doublesho

    A bit more to add to the haul...


    took that picture and remembered that I should have added the wipers. I
    got some proper retro ones, as I'm not counting on using them too often...


    With the cost of the battery, I've now got no more than a few pence change
    out of a grand :doublesho With luck, the car should be getting moved this
    time next week. I can't wait!

    Even though I've spent so much so far, I've got some bargains. I have some
    Bougicord HT leads coming from France, Ł18 instead of Ł87! I can barely
    believe I paid the same price for the front suspension bearings as I did on the
    surplus stock front shock absorbers - all de Carbon products.

    The other savings have been in sourcing a front bumper. I remember my local
    Renault dealer quoting me the best part of Ł400 +vat, unpainted. The 2nd
    hand one, painted in tungy grey, cost me Ł150 :thumb:

    Regards,
    Steve
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    Wagons Roll...

    Hello Folks,

    So, for the first time in 15 years, the car has moved. Most pleasing of all was
    to see all 4 wheels turning within inches of its first movement by the winch.
    So, at least the handbrake hasn't siezed.



    How about this for security? That stump came from a huge eucalyptus tree
    that got brought down in the 2001 storm and was pulled out of the ground
    earlier this year...







    The pattern of rust left off the exhaust...







    Once cleaned, this car looks like it'll come up a treat. This photo is almost a
    bit of a cheat...







    With the front tyres almost flat, the front bumper took a bit of a beating.
    Luckily, there's a new one to fit in its place. Indeed, most of the parts are
    now to hand, other than fiddly bits for the brake calipers.





    As you can probably imagine, the excitement is growing! :buffer:

    Regards,
    Steve
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    Re: R5GTT Project - Off the road since Sept 1998

    This is such a good post. Well done mate.
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    Re: R5GTT Project - Off the road since Sept 1998

    that has aged very looks solid underneath to
    look forward to the progress
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    Re: R5GTT Project - Off the road since Sept 1998

    Hi Folks,

    Here's an image of my expenses so far. Have tried exporting this
    to a .csv file but it still looks untidy



    Regards,
    Steve
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    Re: R5GTT Project - Off the road since Sept 1998

    Before the front bumpers became obsolete they were around Ł120 from Renault. If costs like Ł400 were out there for 1 body part then there must of been a fair few gt turbo's scrapped/not worth the repair after having an prang.
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    Epic thread love it , good work all round
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    Re: R5GTT Project - Off the road since Sept 1998

    Great thread mate, nice stash of all the essential replacement parts for the project jigsaw. Car originally from Norwich with 'PW' on the reg
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    Re: R5GTT Project - Off the road since Sept 1998

    A great read. Keep this thread flowing!


    Judging by some of your posts, it looks like you're doing the same thread on another forum?
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    Re: R5GTT Project - Off the road since Sept 1998

    Hi Trev,

    Thanks for your kind words.

    Quote Originally Posted by Trevhib View Post
    Judging by some of your posts, it looks like you're doing the same thread on another forum?
    I've been a member on the other forum a long time and spend much more
    time there than I do here. Is there a problem with that?

    Regards,
    Steve

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    Re: R5GTT Project - Off the road since Sept 1998

    Quote Originally Posted by Lowiepete View Post


    Got to love the 80's design on the tape slot flap.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lowiepete View Post
    I've been a member on the other forum a long time and spend much more
    time there than I do here. Is there a problem with that?
    Not at all! I was just curious to know which one it was. Always good to see RTOC being mentioned in other places.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Goobie View Post
    Got to love the 80's design on the tape slot flap.
    Reminds me of Mastertronic from the 80's


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    Quote Originally Posted by Trevhib View Post
    Not at all! I was just curious to know which one it was. Always good to see RTOC being mentioned in other places.
    Second line of the first post, massive give away

    Nice to see another 'local' car pop up, good luck with the restoration
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    Good to see it coming on Pete!
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    Quote Originally Posted by TNT Tricky Nicky View Post
    Second line of the first post, massive give away
    Grace without truth is foolishness, truth without grace is cruelty. Thanks

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    Re: R5GTT Project - Off the road since Sept 1998

    great project and an awesome base to work from, will watch with interest
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    Re: R5GTT Project - Off the road since Sept 1998

    Quote Originally Posted by Gttnutter View Post
    Before the front bumpers became obsolete they were around Ł120 from Renault.
    Wow, if I had been quoted that price, I'd have got it replaced. That of course was
    their unpainted price; t'was the prep and painting that hit hardest. I think plastic
    primers have probably come a long way since.

    Mind you, the Ł400 quoted was cheap compared to Ł78 for a couple
    of 4Control badges that go on the Laguna Coupé.



    If anyone knows of a cheaper source, do please let me know. Apparently,
    my GT missed the application of these badges by just a few weeks

    Regards,
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    Re: R5GTT Project - Off the road since Sept 1998

    Hello Folks,

    The car hoisted in its temporary new home...




    Under driver's side rear arch. Any patches that look like oil leaks are just
    where some WD40 has been sprayed. I cannot believe how good and solid
    the fuel tank is.







    It's still a bit of a job for me to get photos of the underside, but the
    omens look good...



    Under front wheel arch...









    I think that the rather rusty pulley wheel will need a visit to the powder
    coaters too.

    I can't wait to see this all cleaned up and painted...




    The carburettor has been removed and dunked into a soak bath to help it
    release. The coolant pipes to and from the carb are also in soak as they're
    blocked by dried-up coolant.

    Regards,
    Steve

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    Re: R5GTT Project - Off the road since Sept 1998

    Good work mate, paint work looks in great order after a wash! gtt's have plastic fuel tanks
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    Re: R5GTT Project - Off the road since Sept 1998

    Good project!

    Im also restoring a G reg tungy on a budget thats been sitting a while.Check out my project.
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    Re: R5GTT Project - Off the road since Sept 1998

    Quote Originally Posted by Lowiepete View Post

    Lurking in my garage for the past 15 years,
    almost to the day is my old R5GTT.
    Good luck man

    If I can restore this



    You can restore your five LOL
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    Re: R5GTT Project - Off the road since Sept 1998

    Wow, how have I missed this thread? This is fantastic!
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    Re: R5GTT Project - Off the road since Sept 1998

    Great thread love it ,makes me want to restore another one
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    Re: R5GTT Project - Off the road since Sept 1998

    Hello Folks,

    I went round to see Karl today, mostly to pay him some money for the work
    he's done so far. We also discussed strategies for how the ongoing work
    would be done. Earlier in the week, he'd taken the tyres off and brought the
    bare wheels round for me to do some cleaning.

    The upshot of that is that 2 wheels definitely need a refurb, so all 4 are going
    off to AeroCoat, early next week. I've also placed an order for 4 ZIEX Falken
    tyres. Unbeknown to me, Karl had made some further progress. The tell-tale
    sign being this...



    Oh, what joy! For weeks, ever since that new exhaust arrived, I've wondered
    what that tailpipe would look like in its bumper slot. I was a bit concerned
    that it might be overkill, a tad "penile-extension" - thankfully not! To my
    mind that looks the part. The remaining bits are not yet attached, hence it
    being a tad off-centre.

    Then came the bigger surprise. Being a man of few words, all I got from Karl
    was: "You might like to look round here..."

    ...where I found this





    ...and this





    The almost total absence of rust is just astonishing! One of the guys round
    there said that if it had been a Ford Escort of that vintage, it would have
    needed fully stripping back to bare metal, and he spoke from experience.
    If anyone reading this has doubts about French cars...

    A few more pictures...









    Old versus new flexible brake pipes...



    I'm just thrilled to bits. There's no question that Karl is putting a lot his own
    personality into his work. I feel very privileged to have access to his craft

    With Season's Greetings,
    Steve
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    Great stuff
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    Exhaust looks fantastic. Hope it sounds as well as it looks
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    Brilliant work
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    It was a pleasure to meet you tonight lowie Pete Steve!
    Thanks for the lift home.

    If you have any question or need a hand with your build, feel free to drop me a pm and I'll try my best to help out

    Nick
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    Re: R5GTT Project - Off the road since Sept 1998

    Hi Nick,
    Quote Originally Posted by TNT Tricky Nicky View Post
    It was a pleasure to meet you tonight lowie Pete Steve!
    Thanks for the lift home.

    If you have any question or need a hand with your build, feel free to drop me a pm and I'll try my best to help out
    T'was good to meet you too

    Once I get the wee beastie back home, there'll no doubt be the occasional question.

    I enjoyed meeting the EA crowd too - it's been a long while since I curried the innards

    Regards,
    Steve

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    Wow wow ,great work again , where did yoy get rear shocks from ?? Thanks matt
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