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    Re: what inlet manifold design to use for efi

    the rover i have modded, as i cut it too short and the throttle would have been too high..........the fuel rail pipes just need to be shortened,
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    Re: what inlet manifold design to use for efi

    the unmodded rover item has issues but none if its going on to a standard t2....the one on the car is a tomcat t25 the large oil adaptor is the problem.....a few more pics to follow of a modded rover manifold with flange well up over turbo
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    Re: what inlet manifold design to use for efi

    this is a modded rover item...drilled to accept the volvo or weber t/body....gives good clearance above the turbo
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    Re: what inlet manifold design to use for efi

    should have a pic of another set up soon but more a budget type...poss around the £300 mark!!

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    Re: what inlet manifold design to use for efi

    Will that design be able to use the standard boost pipe setup?

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    Re: what inlet manifold design to use for efi

    You probably can with the Ford set up but, not with the Rover set up. Michael will need to confirm throttle body outside diameter and I would have thought that you might need a joiner and some kind of reducer?

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    Re: what inlet manifold design to use for efi

    the budget design will have an origional hose setup...maybe a reducer elbow..same as the ford...from memory i think the ford t/b is larger than 2 1/4"
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    Re: what inlet manifold design to use for efi

    as promised ages ago, I said, when I can I'd get some MPG figures up on the new EFI set up, well here it is...

    Now I don't normally drive it that far, but my Audi's wheel bearing in nackered and I promised me mum I'd visit her So that's a journey from london the Sheffield

    I'm very pleased that I was averaging 35mpg, which isn't bad going as it hasn't really had loads of time spent on the map for easy driving... Also on shell V power and 550cc injectors..

    This is with micheal's adapter manifold idea.. Also performance is great too, managed and 11.7 SQM (without gas) and with 60hp of gas an 11.2, so all in all I reckon it work's pretty damn well tbh

    Hope this info helps others think of going this route.

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    Re: what inlet manifold design to use for efi

    ongoing work....fuel rails are problematic but getting there....injector angle is down to 35 degrees which is about max plus there's no welding on this manifold
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    Re: what inlet manifold design to use for efi

    Micheal, you really need to make a batch of manifolds and rails!

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    Re: what inlet manifold design to use for efi

    Quote Originally Posted by MATT C Ringworm Tuning View Post
    Micheal, you really need to make a batch of manifolds and rails!
    i agree

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    Re: what inlet manifold design to use for efi

    certainly do! waiting on a few of these to modify at the mo plus alu bar to make the fuel rails!...i'll post more pics as they happen...good thread is'nt it!!

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    Re: what inlet manifold design to use for efi

    Did anyone off here buy this one off ebay a good few weeks back???
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    Re: what inlet manifold design to use for efi

    Michael, good to see you're still dipping your fingers into the homebrew efi manifolds

    I'm still grateful for that manifold you sent me all those years back, which, unfortunately, never materialised into a full efi setup on my old Raider

    I think if you could make a decent enough batch of manifolds, you'd have no problem shifting them, given the tides are turning in favour of efi these days, and that Scoff is running the Adaptronic show.

    Perhaps another item for the Committee to consider buying (a batch of) & then selling via the club shop...?

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    Re: what inlet manifold design to use for efi

    they're only available to u guys(the club) anyway!!
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    Re: what inlet manifold design to use for efi

    Quote Originally Posted by michael tierney View Post
    they're only available to u guys(the club) anyway!!
    What cost for one mate

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    Re: what inlet manifold design to use for efi

    i'm going to make a couple of varients.....possible between 150 and 400€ !

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    Re: what inlet manifold design to use for efi

    Quote Originally Posted by michael tierney View Post
    i'm going to make a couple of varients.....possible between 150 and 400€ !
    can you send me the list whit the prices pleas

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    Re: what inlet manifold design to use for efi

    So guys what are the electrical parts that you need for the efi forgeting the ecu and the coil pack any one can make a list tanks
    i fond that i will need the EDIS 4 module is that rite guys
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    Re: what inlet manifold design to use for efi

    sorry daniel i did'nt see that post(or else forgot)i'll be posting a few more pics as they come up and i'll have a few prices for u!!
    next one i'll have will have the carb throttle modded for a switch with the injectors!
    it might take a bit longer because i have to do a bit of casting and the weather is poxy lately!!!(an outdoor activity)plus the price of metal is not too bad but postage from UK is getting a bit rediculous!
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    Re: what inlet manifold design to use for efi

    proto finished....had to fit extra bolt for stability..origional throttle with brackets fitted for cable and spring...takes an RSturbo switch(large bosch type)
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    Re: what inlet manifold design to use for efi

    pipe adaptor tapers down to 32mm throttle dia.
    this one is not water heated
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    Re: what inlet manifold design to use for efi

    Quote Originally Posted by michael tierney View Post
    pipe adaptor tapers down to 32mm throttle dia.
    this one is not water heated
    Looking sweet as my friend. What are the main advantages over your first incarnation?

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    Re: what inlet manifold design to use for efi

    origional bits and compactness

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    Re: what inlet manifold design to use for efi

    Quote Originally Posted by michael tierney View Post
    origional bits and compactness
    Any increase in CC?

    Any need for an increase??

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    Re: what inlet manifold design to use for efi

    looks fantastic

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    Re: what inlet manifold design to use for efi

    Quote Originally Posted by TNT ANDY View Post
    Any increase in CC?

    Any need for an increase??
    i suppose the car did,nt do too bad on the origional manifold.....origional bits ect
    my other attempts had larger cc,s

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    Re: what inlet manifold design to use for efi

    Beautiful work as ever Michael. If the price is right, you're on to a winner there.

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    Re: what inlet manifold design to use for efi

    Hi Michael, any progress on the manifold?

    I need one...
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    Re: what inlet manifold design to use for efi

    Lex latest,not included are injectors,acc spring,throttle clamp,throttle switch
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    Re: what inlet manifold design to use for efi

    Nice work Michael.

    It would be great to do a before and after dyno run to get some power/torque curves and a road test to assess drivability improvements.

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    Re: what inlet manifold design to use for efi

    it would be great!!costs money though,we know the efi is going to be better!! at this stage it's all about fuel economy...the price of the stuff is rediculous!! 1.57€/litre over here!!

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    Re: what inlet manifold design to use for efi

    On a personal note - I have Michael's first incarnation and have achieved the 200bhp / 239 ftlb I was after (95 ron fuel) and feels very angry.

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    Re: what inlet manifold design to use for efi

    andy,did u try advancing the timing alot at tickover and light throttle?

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    Quote Originally Posted by michael tierney View Post
    andy,did u try advancing the timing alot at tickover and light throttle?
    you'll have to speak to Scoff about that - all I know is that it now ticks over fine hot / cold whatever.

    900rpm before anyone asks.

    and no, no icv as yet.

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    Re: what inlet manifold design to use for efi

    Quote Originally Posted by michael tierney View Post
    Lex latest,not included are injectors,acc spring,throttle clamp,throttle switch
    The important thing here is are you gona to sell me one

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    Re: what inlet manifold design to use for efi

    Are there any rough prices at all?

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    Re: what inlet manifold design to use for efi

    I have completed my efi c1j and it pay up very well
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    Re: what inlet manifold design to use for efi

    Quote Originally Posted by danielmk323 View Post
    I have completed my efi c1j and it pay up very well
    Thats not bad way of doing it, you got any close ups of the manifold?

    Don't worry not looking to copy it, i've moved away from C1J's myself

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    Re: what inlet manifold design to use for efi

    Quote Originally Posted by Markey Mark (BD) View Post
    Thats not bad way of doing it, you got any close ups of the manifold?

    Don't worry not looking to copy it, i've moved away from C1J's myself
    No i don t have any and ther is noting to copy noting special on it s own

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    Re: what inlet manifold design to use for efi

    more modified manifolds for sale here; https://www.rtoc.org/boards/showthread.php?t=30591

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    Re: what inlet manifold design to use for efi

    met micheal today he's a top bloke and i robbed him blind! picked up a lovely cast manifold and tb.

    @micheal what tps did i need again and what goes where on the tb? pipe wise

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    Re: what inlet manifold design to use for efi

    rsturbo switch is a bosch.....0280 120 302......i'm sure scoff has an equivalent one!
    they're 2 water heater brass fittings(8mm i think) and a vac one(map sensor)...also an idle bypass for your idle valve and the larger one i would blank!
    good to meet you robert and vera too!!

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    Re: what inlet manifold design to use for efi

    There is a super cheap alternative to be had on the inlet manifold on a c1j, it's virtually bolt on and costs less than £50. Chris Miller will be playing with this at some point. It will be interesting to see what comes of it.

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    Re: what inlet manifold design to use for efi

    Quote Originally Posted by TNT ANDY View Post
    There is a super cheap alternative to be had on the inlet manifold on a c1j, it's virtually bolt on and costs less than £50. Chris Miller will be playing with this at some point. It will be interesting to see what comes of it.
    A rather scrappy gtt might be running one too in the new year.

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    Re: what inlet manifold design to use for efi

    Quote Originally Posted by TNT ANDY View Post
    There is a super cheap alternative to be had on the inlet manifold on a c1j, it's virtually bolt on and costs less than £50. Chris Miller will be playing with this at some point. It will be interesting to see what comes of it.

    Old news and very close to bulkhead / servo!

    Very good find though.

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    Re: what inlet manifold design to use for efi

    It had been postulated that it may struggle to flow enough to be useful for big boost / high output applications. I wait with batted breath.

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    Re: what inlet manifold design to use for efi

    Quote Originally Posted by TNT ANDY View Post
    There is a super cheap alternative to be had on the inlet manifold on a c1j, it's virtually bolt on and costs less than £50. Chris Miller will be playing with this at some point. It will be interesting to see what comes of it.
    i wish he'ed hurry up!!

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    Re: what inlet manifold design to use for efi

    Quote Originally Posted by michael tierney View Post
    i wish he'ed hurry up!!
    I have one!

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    Re: what inlet manifold design to use for efi

    Quote Originally Posted by michael tierney View Post
    i wish he'ed hurry up!!
    There's no rushing ol Scottie, certainly not over the past few days LOL

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