Turbo Toaster

[xenon]

bonsoir a toi !
je passe actuellement en gestion sybel avec allumage jumostatique ! (sur mon second GT TURBO )
et je doit faire comme toi , enlevé ma tête de delco et déplacés mes fils de bougie !
pourrais tu me donner le lien (voir tout les détails) de ce qui t'as permis de faire tes fils de bougie !!
car a pard chez CGB , je n'est rien trouver !!!
merci d'avance pour ton aide .


good evening you has!
I currently pass in jumostatic management sybel with lighting! (on my second TURBO WP)
and I must make like you, removed my distributer and moved my sons of candle!
could you give me the bond (see all the details) what you aces allowed to make your sons of candle!!
because has pard at CGB, I is not nothing to find!!!
thank you in advance for your assistance.

[markey b]

james's carbon heater panel has inspired you then oli? lol

[Os8472]

james's carbon heater panel has inspired you then oli? lol

Didn't know he had one, I'm thinking I'll make up a few of these and see if anyone on here wants em

[Os8472]

bonsoir a toi !
je passe actuellement en gestion sybel avec allumage jumostatique ! (sur mon second GT TURBO )
et je doit faire comme toi , enlevé ma tête de delco et déplacés mes fils de bougie !
pourrais tu me donner le lien (voir tout les détails) de ce qui t'as permis de faire tes fils de bougie !!
car a pard chez CGB , je n'est rien trouver !!!
merci d'avance pour ton aide .


good evening you has!
I currently pass in jumostatic management sybel with lighting! (on my second TURBO WP)
and I must make like you, removed my distributer and moved my sons of candle!
could you give me the bond (see all the details) what you aces allowed to make your sons of candle!!
because has pard at CGB, I is not nothing to find!!!
thank you in advance for your assistance.

I'd love to help you Xenon but I can't understand your english let alone your french

If anyone on here can speak french and translate for me that'd be helpfull

[Scoff]

bonsoir a toi !
je passe actuellement en gestion sybel avec allumage jumostatique ! (sur mon second GT TURBO )
et je doit faire comme toi , enlevé ma tête de delco et déplacés mes fils de bougie !
pourrais tu me donner le lien (voir tout les détails) de ce qui t'as permis de faire tes fils de bougie !!
car a pard chez CGB , je n'est rien trouver !!!
merci d'avance pour ton aide .


good evening you has!
I currently pass in jumostatic management sybel with lighting! (on my second TURBO WP)
and I must make like you, removed my distributer and moved my sons of candle!
could you give me the bond (see all the details) what you aces allowed to make your sons of candle!!
because has pard at CGB, I is not nothing to find!!!
thank you in advance for your assistance.

I think he is roughly saying:

good evening,
I am currently working on wasted-spark ignition with sybel management [a brand, I guess ?] (on my second gt turbo)

I must do as you have, remove my distributor and move my HT leads. Can you give me a link (to see all the details) of what allowed you to move your HT leads.

[I think he's asking you what wasted-spark coil and HT leads you used]

[Os8472]

I think he is roughly saying:

good evening,
I am currently working on wasted-spark ignition with sybel management [a brand, I guess ?] (on my second gt turbo)

I must do as you have, remove my distributor and move my HT leads. Can you give me a link (to see all the details) of what allowed you to move your HT leads.

[I think he's asking you what wasted-spark coil and HT leads you used]

I guessed it was somit to do with the ignition but didn't have a clue what, cheers Scoff.

This is where I got my HT leads from
http://www.autoelectricsupplies.co.uk/

The coil pack was from a ford fiesta zetec

[xenon]

I guessed it was somit to do with the ignition but didn't have a clue what, cheers Scoff.

This is where I got my HT leads from
http://www.autoelectricsupplies.co.uk/

The coil pack was from a ford fiesta zetec

thank you for information!!

and sorry for my English who and very bad!!

[Os8472]

No worries chap, my french is rubbish so don't worry about it

[markey b]

your sister in law is french! lol

[Os8472]

your sister in law is french! lol

I know

[Os8472]

Its been ages since I last did an update, so here we go.

First things first, the last Time I posted I'd just got a 14psi wastegate spring but hadn't fitted it


I did finally get around to fitting it and for the first time in over a year my 5 was boosting as it should and was going bloody fast.
Unfortunatly the same night I went to the misses place but enroute I hit a slight snag, namely this


One of the oil lines to the external cooler shifted and got caught by the auxiliy belt resulting in the oil making a bid for freedom

With abit of help from a mate I got it back home and stripped it down the next day only finding the damaged pipe after removing the head thinking I'd damaged that somehow.
Since the head was off I decided to take advantage and change the cam, port and polish the head and get the new valves guides done.
I've also made a few changes to the airfilter, namely it sits well behind the headlight enclosed in carbon.

First off I made some cardboard templates


Then transfered the templates onto a sheet of carbon that I've already covered with masking tape.


After abit of hack sawing and some drilling the panels are ready, here they are in there final location, with abit of old red vacuum hose around the edge to neaten them up abit





Just to see how it'd look, I've sat the airfilter on the inner arch



Since the lower piece won't need to move anymore I removed the masking tape and fixed it permantly

[Os8472]

Next thing I've done is much to my annoyence is sell the VNT and return to a normal type of turbo, I would love to have got the VNT working properly with EFi but time and money are now against me as I've bought a house, but the good news is I got 600quid for it, so that'll pay for the new turbo, the mods to fit it, the head work and the mapping and still leave 200quid after.

Thanks to JP who sold me his spare T25/28 hybrid

First things first you'll note the front housing is the same size as the front housing on my VNT (on the right), but its been matched to accept a slightly larger compressor wheel.


It had a few bits missing, oil return, oil feed, actuator, all easy fixes with my stock of old turbos, there's a hybrid T2, the starion turbo off my S13, an actualy S13 turbo and a Saarb turbo.


The Saarb turbo kindly donated its oil return.


The lack of actuator is no problem as I had no intention of using it, a quick chop of the mounting bracket and the actuator off the Starion turbo and I have all I need to sort it.




A session with a blow torch and the metal is glowing orange, ready to be bent round the brackt to lock the wastegate shut.



next job the coolant lines, my VNT didn't have water cooling, this one does, so out come the silicone coolant hoses, but there's a problem, one of the hoses is suposed to come from the carb but I don't have a carb any more, so out comes the stanley knife, some jubilee clips and some ally tubing, job done, nice shiney coolant lines.

[Os8472]

With the relocation of the header tank to the scuttle area a number of coolant lines will pass through the area the factory oil catch can would sit, so its gotta be moved, out came some old ally sheet and I made up this mount, should do the job nicely

[Os8472]

While I've got the car in bits I'm also thinking about the handling side of things, for a long time I've had to have the front colover set fairly stiff to stop the body rol, even with polly bushes on the antiroll bar.

I've been looking at the mk1 megane and its much larger roll bar and weather it could be made to fit an R5, a quick trip to a scrappy and 5quid later I have a mk1 megane roll bar


Now all I need is the time to make it fit

[Scoff]

what does the bar measure ? I thought the R5 non-turbo models were on the whole bigger than the GT Turbo bar.

[Os8472]

what does the bar measure ? I thought the R5 non-turbo models were on the whole bigger than the GT Turbo bar.

Well the stock one on mine was 19mm, the megane job is 25mm, only a 6mm increase but with polly bushes should do the job nicely.

I think the ends will need chopping down abit but should work, can't see why not, I took it off the car myself and the subframe was near as damnit the same as a GTT's

[Alastair]

Well the stock one on mine was 19mm, the megane job is 25mm, only a 6mm increase but with polly bushes should do the job nicely.

I think the ends will need chopping down abit but should work, can't see why not, I took it off the car myself and the subframe was near as damnit the same as a GTT's

Should fit ok with a bit of a chop Although i would be interested in measuring the stiffness of a few ARBs, i tried doing a deflection test in my vice with various bars but couldnt get repeatable readings...

[Os8472]

Should fit ok with a bit of a chop Although i would be interested in measuring the stiffness of a few ARBs, i tried doing a deflection test in my vice with various bars but couldnt get repeatable readings...

Would be interesting to get exact figures but in the absense of those I'll go for bigger is better, morning ladies

[BluntyR5GTT]

iv just spent quite a bit of time reading through this thread and boy has it been a rollercoaster if only you had put a normal turbo on there in the first place lol, what is the actual sepc of the engine, and how much has it cost to do the efi conversion if you dont mind me asking

[Andrew Cooke]

Well the stock one on mine was 19mm, the megane job is 25mm, only a 6mm increase but with polly bushes should do the job nicely.

I think the ends will need chopping down abit but should work, can't see why not, I took it off the car myself and the subframe was near as damnit the same as a GTT's

When you find that doesn't fit grab yourself a williams/R19 bar, it's 23mm. You'll need to trim and reshape the ends a bit, but I'm sure it'll fit (I use one on my widetrack).

[Nayls]

When you find that doesn't fit grab yourself a williams/R19 bar, it's 23mm. You'll need to trim and reshape the ends a bit, but I'm sure it'll fit (I use one on my widetrack).

i was told to use that bar

[Woznaldo]

When you find that doesn't fit grab yourself a williams/R19 bar, it's 23mm. You'll need to trim and reshape the ends a bit, but I'm sure it'll fit (I use one on my widetrack).

Just to clarify, does it need to be R19 '16v' model?

[Os8472]

Just to clarify, does it need to be R19 '16v' model?

Its a good bet as that was the range topper, now to find one in a scrappy, thats gunna be fun

[Andrew Cooke]

Just to clarify, does it need to be R19 '16v' model?

good point, I *think* so..

[Os8472]

Right progress this year has been slow, well actually I've done feck all on the car this year, so I've pulled my finger out and got on with a few things.

First off cheers to Scoff for the excellent uprated rear engine mount, looks the nuts in red


Got that in place straight away


Also fitted some clips to the brake lines to tidy them up abit


This is kinda how the coolant lines have been routed, there's still bits I gotta do before there finished though

[markey b]

Its a good bet as that was the range topper, now to find one in a scrappy, thats gunna be fun

i had one at mine for bloody ages..... now its been scrapped.... i had the whole subframe with arms, hubs and shocks etc from my old cabby

[Os8472]

i had one at mine for bloody ages..... now its been scrapped.... i had the whole subframe with arms, hubs and shocks etc from my old cabby

one word for yo Butterworth....... PPPPPPPRRRRRRRRIIIIIIIIICCCCCCCKKKKKKKKKK

[J$£5GTT]

one word for yo Butterworth....... PPPPPPPRRRRRRRRIIIIIIIIICCCCCCCKKKKKKKKKK

gta be faster than that ollie you wollie!!!

[Os8472]

gta be faster than that ollie you wollie!!!

I'd better run more boost then

[Os8472]

Right been at it again
Since the header tank is now sitting in the scuttle area I figured I should give it a clean


Both the coolant lines from the heater matrix are now finished and fixed


Turns out OCD can be usefull, its a damn sight cleaner than it was before I started

[markey b]

lookin good oli!

dont suppose u got any spare alley tubing for the header relocation

[Os8472]

lookin good oli!

dont suppose u got any spare alley tubing for the header relocation

You wanting to do the same are ya?

I do have some left yeah, you'll need lots of jubilee clips, some rubber gromets and alot of patience aswell

[markey b]

yeah, been meaning too for ages but too lazy to work out pipe sizes lol

[Os8472]

yeah, been meaning too for ages but too lazy to work out pipe sizes lol

You lazy git, wait for me to do it then take advantage of everything I've learned


I guess I could help ya

[Os8472]

Yay my BigJim downpipe turned up today and I gotta say its fecking beautiful, fits perfect, gives about 20mm of clearance of my ktec manifold (thank god, was quite worried about that) and best of all it lifts the centre section up 2inches meaning the exhaust doesn't hang down below the normal lower line of the car, so no more scrapes on speed bumps or during high speed B road blasts


Gotta heat wrap it and fit proper like but its utter sex in metal

[James5]

Loving the project keep up the good work

[Os8472]

Got some proper pics taken of the downpipe




compared to the ktec downpipe I had before


heat wrapped


and fitted


clearence off the ketc manifold


the new found clearence underneth


the ktec exhaust manifold flange was massivelley thick compared to the inlet manifold flange and caused a minor leak, so to solve that I attacked the manifold with an angle grinder and took enough metal to even them up abit

[Os8472]

Right more stuff done and gettin bloody close to finishing it
Firsthings first, over night parts from Shanghi


A quick cut



And my airbox is finally finished




Next up the head, I'd dropped it off at a machine shop back at the start of january for new inlet valve guides, face skim, 3 angle cut valve seats and valves cut in, when I went to pick it up I got abit of bad news, turns out the exhaust valve in no.4 was bent and had cracked the valve guide dowt you could see it in the pic, I could hardly tell with it in my hand


Anyway after a brieff moment thinking, damn the head is scrap and I need to clean my spare head up, they delivered good news, they'd already fitted a new valve and exhaust guide, done all the other bits and made sure it was in perfect working order, top fellas they are at Randalls


Last but not least, I decided to give a few metal pipes a clean and repaint, after an hour of rubbing with a high grit aluminium oxide paper, a couple of coats of primer applied

Next 6 coats of red


They still need to dry fully before I can lacquar them though

[Andrew Cooke]

do you have washers under the manifold nuts? It doesn't look like it, I think you should have.

btw, I've made stepped washers in the past to correct for differences in manifold thickness

[Os8472]

do you have washers under the manifold nuts? It doesn't look like it, I think you should have.

btw, I've made stepped washers in the past to correct for differences in manifold thickness

I do normally, the manifold was bolted to my spare head at that point to make sure everything fitted properly

[Os8472]

I'm at the stage now that I need to prep the head before it gets bolted on, so we'll start by making it look nice

THe end plate and belt guide repainte in red


Stripped the inlet manifold and cleaned it up


One of the new oil breather hoses


The end plate reassembled


The head half built


The head back together and ready to go

[Ashy]

looking good, do you run an external wastegate then?

[Os8472]

looking good, do you run an external wastegate then?

Have done since july last year, I coulda done away with it with this turbo but I love the sound it makes so much plus its a 37mm gate where as the internal gate on the turbo was only 28mm so it'll be able to control the boost alot easyer

[Os8472]

Got quite abit more done to the car, the new 285degree piper cam and adjustable vernier are in and timed up, thanks Handy Andy.

Was gunna spend all out the weekend just gone get it back together but not all went to plan, thursday night while undoing the clutch cover plate bolts 2 snapped off in the flywheel, leading to this



Ohwell got on with a couple of other bits, the old clutch cable was abit cooked and when I got it out was 20mm longer than the brand new one I got from renault :shock:



I've fitted a soft pedel conversion to the clutch to make it alittle better to drive



Went to a scrappy with Andy to lend a hand pulling a few bits he needed off a motor and had a stroke of luck, found an R5 with nearly brand new headlights


And it also had a mint condition rocker cover, it even still had the sticker for the plug gap on it

Got those for 30quid, not bad considering 1 new headlight is 60quid

Had a result on ebay and got a chrome altenator bracket for a fiver

[Os8472]

Got alot of stuff yesturday, the head is back on and for the most part the engine is built back up but the stainless gasket I had for the manifold to turbo has gone missing, which is really annoying cus I put it with the turbo elbow gasket and thats still there.

The new clutch arm is very close to the rad fan but clears the rad itself just fine, another 10mm longer and I'd have to move the fan but it should be ok


I got some new 6mm vacuum hose instead of the 4mm I've been using up to now for the wastegate lines plus I've also routed it in a way so it looks abit less tatty but I'm gunna add some little clips to tidy it up some more


Here's the new layout albeit still needing some bits finishing


Had a result on ebay last night, I got a GT Tuning ram raid induction kit for an R5, back in the day these were dyno proven to gain 7bhp, Its gunna need alittle bit of modding to sit behind my airbox but should go nicely

[Os8472]

Update time, I've modded the GTTtunning ram raid kit to suit my carbon airbox and hopefully improved its flow aswell, I'll post up some pics of that when I have 5 mins.

I've had the car running and on the road for 3 days now as a shaked down to make sure everything is right and when I say shake down I mean SHAKE down, Scoff, your rear engine mount is excellent mate and would be absolutely perfect for a drag and track only car but I think its just that little bit to stiff for a semi road car, shame it looks the muts nuts, oh well my fault for thinking it would be ok on the road.

Can't believe how quick this day has come round, its monday 22nd march and I'm off to Emerald for mapping, fingers crossed all will go well, I'm confident the engine will be ok, its the gearbox that concerns me right now.

Expected power, well I was hoping for around 220bhp but Handy Andy seems to think it'll be 235bhp min, I'm not so sure but hey we've bet a dominos pizza on the result

[markey b]

i recon what ever it comes out at, it'll still be less than my ginger one

[Adey aka Ewok]

how she do?

[J$£5GTT]

i recon what ever it comes out at, it'll still be less than my ginger one

...always go for the ginger or feisty red ones for a bit of fun..

[TNT ANDY]

...always go for the ginger or feisty red ones for a bit of fun..

gingers rule!!!


C'mon Oli - Watcha get