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    Welding advice needed (non car)

    I need to do some welding at work. It's going to involve welding a copper strip onto a steel column. The copper is about 3mm thick and about 2.5cm square. Would a ordinary mig welder be up to the job or would I need to use a tig welder, I'm a welding virgin so any advice would be appreciated. Also If I bought a mig welder I thought I may be able to sort a few car things out in future.

    Would something like this do the job or be ott? with the added bonus that it's a turbo....

    http://www.machinemart.co.uk/shop/pr...rbo-mig-welder

    Cheers!

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    Re: Welding advice needed (non car)

    You wont be able to weld copper to steel mate, the temp that they metals melt at are miles apart

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    Re: Welding advice needed (non car)

    at work we use helium gas and tig to weld copper

    But as mentioned above you wont be able to weld the copper to steel. We also hired in some watercooled tig welding equipment to control the temps .
    Last edited by Mudslinger; 13-05-2009 at 15:34.

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    Re: Welding advice needed (non car)

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    Correct me if im wrong here people. But I dont think you can weld copper to steel. You can braze it though.

    If you have never done welding before you will no doubt mess it up (not this job just a normal one). It's not something you can just do. Set up is very important. If you lucky it will look good but you wont get good penatration (the weld will just be on the surface with no strength to it).

    By all means get the set if the cash is spare and just practice lots first

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    Re: Welding advice needed (non car)

    I had feeling I might need a tig welder, are they super exspensive? what about arc welding?

    http://www.machinemart.co.uk/shop/pr...0te-arc-welder

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    Re: Welding advice needed (non car)

    As said above you last post you may be able to braze it but you wont be welding it

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    Re: Welding advice needed (non car)

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    Hub can i ask what exactly are you doing? Does it have to be copper on this steel?

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    Re: Welding advice needed (non car)

    ok sorry to be thick - what deos brazing involve?

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    Re: Welding advice needed (non car)

    yeah I'm trying to attach a copper tape to a steel column it should have been bolted on many months ago but some twonk (not me) didn't bother, it's to earth the structure incase it's hit by lightning. It's a confined space so I can't get a drill in there anymore.

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    Re: Welding advice needed (non car)

    If its for a lightning rod and not structal cant you just hold it on with a jubliee clip?

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    Re: Welding advice needed (non car)

    The steel is completely encased in brickwork, and welding looks like the only option, if i can't weld/braze it i'm out of options...

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    Re: Welding advice needed (non car)

    Can it only be put on the piller? Cant it go somewhere els?

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    Re: Welding advice needed (non car)

    What about shot fixing it?

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    Re: Welding advice needed (non car)

    Quote Originally Posted by Misky View Post
    What about shot fixing it?
    That would work with a hilti gun

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    Re: Welding advice needed (non car)

    weld a stud onto the steel with a MIG, then bolt the copper onto the stud.

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    Re: Welding advice needed (non car)

    can you not just makt the plate out of steel instead of copper?

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    Re: Welding advice needed (non car)

    Quote Originally Posted by stevo clio View Post
    can you not just makt the plate out of steel instead of copper?
    It needs to be low impedance. I'm sure its classed as bonding?

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    Re: Welding advice needed (non car)

    Yeah my mate just told me about shot blasting it with a hilti gun, so I'm going to give that a try before getting into welding however I wouldn't mind giving welding a try in less taxing circumstances, and sparky your idea of welding a bolt is a superb one, if the shot blasting fails - cheers guys!

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