While trawling the net for various GTT bits I came upon what I believe to be a genuine Group.A Carb Kit. Here's some pics:
I can try to contact the guy that it is running it to see he can give details on a supplier, but I have tried to contact for other stuff and he hasn't been too responsive?
Interesting all the same.
I'm sensing a group buy....
Looks so pretty, I want it
X2Originally Posted by Guybrush
I'm sensing a group buy....
Yes, and I would be interested in purchasing one! Don't think you would find another one in a hurry.
i want 1
Here's some more info:
I'll let you do the translation
A bit more info. Here's the original Renault Group A Carb Venturi to compare to the kits offered above.
As I find more, I will post it up here.
In the document, where it mentions jet sizes can anyone please translate the above 2 lines? It seems to suggest drilling 2 holes in the carb to 3mm and 3.5mm?
The google translation gives this:
Choke boost pass 3mm
Arrival emulsion tube pass 3.5mm
I would say that 'pass' means 'pass through with a drill'?
Sometimes the direct translation doesn't really make sense when talking engineering.
i'm going to measure a standard carb and see what size them holes are. I wonder if the "tuner" carbs missed a few key points to making the group a work properly.
hi guys, today i have been talking to gav. my friend with the maxi. and he has told me "if i can" to get this as it is the write way to go. this is were the "group a" modded carb was supposed to go but never really did in the rite way. i want one so put me down for a group buy if not ill just get my own. i trust this guys opinion totally.
i used to run a genuine Group A (or Gp N) carb.
It gave better power at the same boost, better throttle response and the only reason i sold it was because i went EFi.
Very easy to set up the fuelling, i have the Group N renault manual somewhere that lists lots of part numbers and tech details etc. Might have the jet sizes in there.
It was snapped up by a rally driver in Ireland IIRC when i sold it.
If i go carb again on a different car i'd buy one of these.
Maybe lend the book to the club for copying/scanning/archiving?
defo interested guys
I would be interested in one of these kits!
hi guys just wanting to let you know iv been in contact with gary smith (smithyr5gtt) via facebook and proposed that i could help out with getting the ball rolling to get a group buy on these kits for the club.
i sent the required company an email earlier in the week and had a reply this morning so the wheels are in motion but we will need 10 genuine interested people to activate the group buy and get us a decent discount.
i will keep you updated once we get a bit further with negotiations but please feel free to note your interest on here
update on the potential group buy
i received an email from the company who make these kits with a confirmed price on a single kit and a confirmed price on a group buy of 10 kits
the figures are as follows
for 1 complete kit its 250 euros/ £208
for 10 complete kits per kit would be 182.5 euros/ £152.50
now i feel that is a great saving and is something i certainly feel we can take advantage of.
olivier also mentioned they do a special camshaft that works with this carb kit, not sure if that would interest anyone but the cost of them is 345 euros and am sure if we had a few people wanting them could get the cost down again.
Wonder what the spec of the cam is, if its similar to one that is readily avaliable already or completely different
hi mark this is something that iv just replied and asked the guy, as soon as he gets back to me ill post it up on here.
i have asked how they differ from piper/cat cams 285 cams etc
This is great.
Blunty, this is one of those thing that can go up on the FB site bud. The latest group buy being offered exclusively to RTOC members
trev would you like to post it up on there fella?
i run one of the rtoc pages on there but not the main one, i will post it up on the one i run no bother
Hi mate. Apols, I'm not on FB at all bud.
Is there another committee, mod or AR who is a member of the main FB group who will do this for us, and indeed take up the reins to relay all the member benefits as and when they happen please?
BTW - tell Gav i said hi.
Great work guys, I'd be interested
Interested Mr Blunty!
This ^^^
so then now we need a genuine list please only add your name to this if you can 100% go through with the deal, i have added all the people who showed interest with a? by your name so if you could please edit accordingly that would be great
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this is whats included in each kit
A lot of the messages that were on this page have been deleted, no idea why? So annoying when this happens on Rtoc
I seem to remember there were 2 different sizes available. Which size is in this group buy?
It looks like some messages were deleted as they didn't have any relevance to the group buy. It's easier/quicker to find info in threads when they're cleaned up
Yes you're right there is 2 sizes available; 26mm and a 27mm venturi. I assume you can order whichever one you want. Perhaps Blunty can confirm?
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Seal kit at €90? What are these seals? Just the same as in the RTOC carb kit at £35.50 or are there bits in this kit that are specifically required for the upgraded parts?
If not, folk could save £60 off the price?
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Nad-5gtt
Deffinately interested but will wait for a 'final' price before I commit. Hopefully as Trev says there could be a substantial saving on the seal kit.
mike had a gpA carb 28mm venturi, and the car detted so it must still need setting up correctly with the right jets, but i beleive this is a proper kit
That list there is just an example of one kit so the prices are more than what they are in the group buy. I just posted that up so you can see whats included in the kit.
Iv had an email regarding the venturi size and he says its 25.5mm which isnt much larger than oe? Just so you know im only going through the contact that woznaldo passed onto smithy.
So is the 25.5mm venturi the only option?
Good job in finding these kits Woz, and well done to those getting the ball rolling so to speak.
I am extremley interested to see/understand what gains can be had over a well spec'd & tuned std carb.
So the Group A 11 turbo's were 185bhp(on a T2) - ok that's pretty awesome
but im sure these results could be possible with a std carb and the tuning witchcraft/afr monitoring available today? or is the reasoning behind these kits it to make the engine flow better/be more responsive at lower revs/load. Does one have any other thoughts?
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Im awaiting a reply you guys will have bear with me ill keep you updated as soon as I possibly can
I can understand about tidying up the thread but should there not also be a healthy debate about weather or not these are actually of benefit? I know it's a group buy thread now but originally this was a does it work type of thread and some information has been deleted.
I'm not gonna loose any sleep over it but I would like as much information as possible so I can make an informed decision as to weather to part with my hard earned.
All this thread says to me now is they are awesome and everybody needs them to make good power
As of later on today ill be handing over the role of organsing this group buy etc as I really have not got the time.
Im also going have to step down from my role as media relations as I cant do the role the justice it deserves iv got a hell of alot of stuff happening atm.
I agree, I want to read everything negative or positive to make a decision.I can understand about tidying up the thread but should there not also be a healthy debate about weather or not these are actually of benefit? I know it's a group buy thread now but originally this was a does it work type of thread and some information has been deleted.
I'm not gonna loose any sleep over it but I would like as much information as possible so I can make an informed decision as to weather to part with my hard earned.
All this thread says to me now is they are awesome and everybody needs them to make good power
I may be interested in the 27mm kit. 25.5 seems a bit too similar to standard.
Your work and effort in organizing this group buy Blunty is awesome and in no way am I suggesting these kits are useless. One of the posts that's been deleted is me mentioning how interesting it would be to try and set a real group A carb up properly. Instead of the rubbish tuner 140 main jet 'group a' carbs and the thought of having a specially designed camshaft to suit the fueling really sounds like a winning idea
Don't drop out dude your time and effort is really appreciated by all #manhugs
I'm in lads!
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Me too
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If these are from Switzerland that's +20% VAT + some import tax.
The two pictures of the OE group A and this after-market one do look quite different from each other?
Ill dig out my library when i get a mo and see what it says in there...
Whats the best way to remove both venturi's?I really fancy trying this kit out but after having a practice on a fooked carb body and making a complete mess of it im not sure i would want to attempt it on my good one.
The main (25mm) venturi is removed by taking the little round tab out of the bottom of the carb, then carefully pushing the venturi out. It will be tight and is difficult to remove without damaging it!
The small auxillary one is remoce by taking the tab ouf of the side of the card then unscrewing the bolt that holds it in.
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