Re: GTT on Fifth Gear tonight!

**jesus in the seat of a 5** · 13-01-2009, 06:56

Originally Posted by Mart

Chuffed to feck to see that 'No bling at the Ring' shot

Good arrows mate, your Raider done you proud

...love ya stevo, nice mate , made me crack a smile an remember why i have 5 gt`s to my name!!!!!!

, good work steve...gtt`s...

**Alex** · 13-01-2009, 08:43

I must say I thought the Raider was standard and only running 8-10 psi so I'm a little surprised it didn't beat the Twingo? I guess those Uniroyal tyres must be pretty bad!

Either way the Raider looked excellent and sounded amazing - I know which car I'd rather have!

**blue mackay** · 13-01-2009, 08:59

Originally Posted by Alex

I must say I thought the Raider was standard and only running 8-10 psi so I'm a little surprised it didn't beat the Twingo? I guess those Uniroyal tyres must be pretty bad!

Either way the Raider looked excellent and sounded amazing - I know which car I'd rather have!

hey has anyone downloaded this clip???
or have a copy?
im off-shore in africa and have just found out that it was on last night aaaagggghhhhh?????

**millie** · 13-01-2009, 09:06

Originally Posted by blue mackay

hey has anyone downloaded this clip???
or have a copy?
im off-shore in africa and have just found out that it was on last night aaaagggghhhhh?????

This link should hopefully take you there?!

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=R6P28_BtuTs

**Mart** · 13-01-2009, 09:10

Never had a problem running Uniroyals on track with ol' Trusty, come rain or shine.

Therefore, I conclude Plato must be a cr8p driver then

**RussellT** · 13-01-2009, 12:10

brand new Uniroyals in the rain worse than crap IMO and she would have probably gone quicker with less boost. Also it was a very narrow track to be fair to Mr Plato he wouldnt want to bin a punters car but would have less qualms with the Twingo. Also no doubt the Twingo has all sorts of electronic driver aids which will be a big advantage in the wet.

195/45 on a 15 would have made a massive difference. But in the end my abiding memory will be Jason's smile driving the Raider.

**tonesGTT** · 13-01-2009, 12:17

Well done BigSteve and the raider. I cant wait to watch this later having recorded it last night

I think 5th gear gets repeated guys anyway for those of you who missed it, so keep an eye on the tv lisitngs this week

**Mart** · 13-01-2009, 12:25

Anyone thought about sending an invite to Fifth Gear for our ND? Even if they say no, at least it kinda shows we appreciate the fact they at least featured a gtt, even if it was comparing it to its newer brother.

**djinuk** · 13-01-2009, 13:23

i think that would be a idea. noticed somebody mentioned putting a set of toyo proxies on, when i mentioned toyos on the 205 gti drivers boards i was laughed away, been told eagle f1s are much better,, well done with the r5 anyhow, ill watch it tonight when i finish work.

**Penfold aka The Dealer** · 13-01-2009, 13:25

Nothing wrong with Toyo's, they do the job and for the money you wont get no better.

I only ever put toyos on my toy cars, i havent had any issue's with them, Mart runs them on his Evo and that does a low 9min lap round the Nurburgring.

**Duncan Grier** · 13-01-2009, 14:03

Originally Posted by Penfold

Nothing wrong with Toyo's, they do the job and for the money you wont get no better.

I only ever put toyos on my toy cars, i havent had any issue's with them, Mart runs them on his Evo and that does a low 9min lap round the Nurburgring.

Mart needs to get R888's on the EVO and drop those jankie road tyres which are cr*p

then get some time perfecting the limits of the car and then watch that time F A L L

Std ish clio 172 cup can do a 9 min lap :P

THe later T1-R are a bit better and for the money quite good but once you drive on the R888's they just dont do it - cant wait for the revised track tyres to be released in my sizes so I can live with them in the wet also lol

**Mart** · 13-01-2009, 14:26

Originally Posted by Penfold

Nothing wrong with Toyo's, they do the job and for the money you wont get no better.

I only ever put toyos on my toy cars, i havent had any issue's with them, Mart runs them on his Evo and that does a low 9min lap round the Nurburgring.

High 8's now.

T1R's FTW, although I do want to try a set of 888's as Grier is forever waxing lyrical about them.

**Spidey** · 13-01-2009, 15:19

Originally Posted by Mart

Anyone thought about sending an invite to Fifth Gear for our ND? Even if they say no, at least it kinda shows we appreciate the fact they at least featured a gtt, even if it was comparing it to its newer brother.

Then ask them for a rematch.....

**5teve L** · 13-01-2009, 15:56

As someone picked up on earlier, the boost wound up prob did more harm than good in the wet, in the dry it would have been alot closer, dare i say the GTT would have had the Twingo, IMO of course.
I like Marts idea of the invite as well

**FORBES** · 13-01-2009, 16:04

Originally Posted by raj

FCUK!! either that was fixed. the 5's got a boost leak, or the twingo really is better! im sure steve mentioned it was running more than std boost too!!

so what boost was the 5 actually running.?
what boost does the twingo run as std.?

The RenaultSport Twingo is a 1.6 VVT 133BHP iirc

Non turbo. The Renault Twingo GT is the 1.2 Turbo with 100BHP iirc.

I missed it too, I was stuck in traffic on the way home from work, so will be watching on that 5 catchup thingy when I get in tonight...

Happy Days!!

**Sam M** · 13-01-2009, 16:35

Toyo T1R`s are great, I find them so grippy. Even in the wet they are good. I did think about trying the Eagle F1`s but noticed the tread pattern now has completely changed,

http://www.cartuningcentral.com/wp-c...asymmetric.jpg

**BriC** · 13-01-2009, 17:41

Originally Posted by Tiny Tim

You mean... there are ACTUALLY cars out there better than Renault 5 GT Turbos?

na mate, nuffink beetz da r5 gttttti

**BriC** · 13-01-2009, 17:43

Originally Posted by Mart

Anyone thought about sending an invite to Fifth Gear for our ND? Even if they say no, at least it kinda shows we appreciate the fact they at least featured a gtt, even if it was comparing it to its newer brother.

Quality idea

**Ricardo** · 13-01-2009, 18:28

The original 'No Bling 07' sticker on show

Props to Fifth Gear for having a GT Turbo on their programme, looked good.

**Mart** · 13-01-2009, 18:52

Originally Posted by BriC

Quality idea

One for the Committee to send an email/make contact with them?

**jesus in the seat of a 5** · 13-01-2009, 18:54

[quote=Ricardo;35093]The original 'No Bling 07' sticker on show

Hey so my stickers have been across europe and on telly...

, well done again stevie boy..our very own rtoc celeb motor...

**gttjames** · 13-01-2009, 19:31

Originally Posted by MikeA

I love the praise the presenters give after the time test. Especially the fact that the mentioned it being the cooler choice than your average golf gti. Its so true. So many people comment on them! Damn Im proud to have 5!

car did well in the wet, looked well nice, love the ring sticker shown. maybe with a driver more suited to 5's things would have been different, and in the wet i think it would be different to

**SPENCER** · 13-01-2009, 20:50

New poster! (less than 10 posts)

I also uploaded the video onto youtube (you beat me to it steve!):

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=WCDfhSNsyhk&fmt=18

To be fair my car on its 13's with uniroyals used to be all over the shop in the wet. It's amazing the difference some 15 inch wheels with 45 profile toyos makes.

Nice to see the 5 on telly though and some nice comments made by all of them

congrats Steve

**5alldaway** · 13-01-2009, 20:56

with the twingo being heavier, wouldnt that have made it more stable in the poor conditions?

**Penfold aka The Dealer** · 13-01-2009, 20:56

I hope the raider dont get to stuck up and continues on going to the ring and other track days through out 2009 steve!!

**Blick** · 13-01-2009, 21:25

just watched it again on channel fiver at 8 and its on again at 9pm on fiver+1 if any1s missed it on the telly.

**tonesGTT** · 14-01-2009, 11:22

Originally Posted by Sam M

Toyo T1R`s are great, I find them so grippy. Even in the wet they are good. I did think about trying the Eagle F1`s but noticed the tread pattern now has completely changed,

http://www.cartuningcentral.com/wp-c...asymmetric.jpg

Thats a huge pattern change, are you sure they are F1's?

**FORBES** · 14-01-2009, 12:10

Channel 5 Catch up or what ever its called didnt work on my laptop for some reason...

So instead I watched it on YouTube.

Shame the shoot out was only 4 minutes long, it would have been good if they had done a longer review on the cars.

I agree with comments, and I have driven the Twingo RS. 5's are renowned for being pants in the wet on original rubber.

In the try it WOULD have been a different story.

My Raider even gave my 172 a run for its money.

Considering, thats a 20 year old 1.4 Turbo vs a modern age 172BHP 2.0 Clio it surprised me.

You put any other 20 year old hot hatch against its modern day rival and it would get crucified..

But it was great to watch Steves car going round being driven by Jason...

Well done Steve.

I will hopefully see you at an event soon mate!

**J$£5GTT** · 14-01-2009, 13:27

[quote=Duncan Grier;35029]Mart needs to get R888's on the EVO and drop those jankie road tyres which are cr*p

then get some time perfecting the limits of the car and then watch that time F A L L

Std ish clio 172 cup can do a 9 min lap :P

**Ricardo** · 14-01-2009, 14:10

[quote=jesus in the seat of a 5;35098]

Originally Posted by Ricardo

The original 'No Bling 07' sticker on show

Hey so my stickers have been across europe and on telly...

, well done again stevie boy..our very own rtoc celeb motor...

Fail, as mentioned the 'original' and first 'No Bling 07' stickers, sorted by moi

**Mart** · 14-01-2009, 14:29

[quote=J$£5GTT;35335]

Originally Posted by Duncan Grier

Mart needs to get R888's on the EVO and drop those jankie road tyres which are cr*p

then get some time perfecting the limits of the car and then watch that time F A L L

Std ish clio 172 cup can do a 9 min lap :P

Driven by a pro who knows the track inside out, on a non-public day no doubt

**Mart** · 14-01-2009, 14:29

[quote=Ricardo;35354]

Originally Posted by jesus in the seat of a 5

Fail, as mentioned the 'original' and first 'No Bling 07' stickers, sorted by moi

And thought of by moi

**Ricardo** · 14-01-2009, 14:30

[quote=Mart;35361]

Originally Posted by Ricardo

And thought of by moi

Tis true squire

**James_Surridge G1 5 GTT** · 14-01-2009, 14:36

Originally Posted by Big Steve - Raider

For those of you who missed it on telly last night & those of you not in the UK i've uploaded it onto YouTube

Thanks for all the great comments guys, i was really chuffed to read them, i think she did us all proud & hopefully made some non RTOC people think about these little french fighters again!!

Just to clarify a few things, the car was fitted with 4 brand new Uniroyal's in original 195 55 13 fitment days before the shoot so the tyres weren't old or off theyre just CRAP tyres

and even on the day Jason said to me that it was the tyres that let the car down.

Secondly thanks to Andrew Cooke she was blessed with some Ferrodo DS2500 brake pads prior to that day also so the brakes were feeling at their best.

Finally the boost is set at 15psi as indicated on my profile so she was going well alright.

I think on another dry day it would have been much much closer.

Anyway it certainly sounded better, did anyone hear the GTT Angry Burble as it went past camera!

Loved it!!

Proud as punch Big Steve

As you should be mate. Well done. Aint fame great!!

**c7borg** · 14-01-2009, 14:58

Originally Posted by James_Surridge G1 5 GTT

As you should be mate. Well done. Aint fame great!!

Yeah!! well done on your hard work too I remember chatting to you at Mallory

and seeing the car then

Just think when you do sell it (not that you would) but you could say "As shown on TV" in the advert

**jesus in the seat of a 5** · 14-01-2009, 16:15

[quote=Ricardo;35354]

Originally Posted by jesus in the seat of a 5

Fail, as mentioned the 'original' and first 'No Bling 07' stickers, sorted by moi

ahh fair do`s i did last years riccccccyyyyyy...

...it

**Frix** · 14-01-2009, 16:27

congrats steve, done us proud mate!

**HaarlemPaul** · 14-01-2009, 16:42

Absoultely fantastic. Makes me proud with a tear in my eye. Large doses of respect for uploading on Youtube as I can't access the Demand5 from here

**Sam M** · 14-01-2009, 17:47

Originally Posted by tonesGTT

Thats a huge pattern change, are you sure they are F1's?

Yep 100%, I was in a friends garage recently when he had some delivered for a customer and we were shocked at the change of tread pattern.

**tonesGTT** · 14-01-2009, 18:04

Originally Posted by Sam M

Yep 100%, I was in a friends garage recently when he had some delivered for a customer and we were shocked at the change of tread pattern.

Shame. Good tyre with what i thought was a cool tread pattern, which was a bonus.

**The new Bill J** · 14-01-2009, 18:13

Eagle F1's are toilet tyres. I had them once and nearly died every time I drove the car

They have been revised about 94 times since then, but I wouldn't go near them with a barge pole after the experience I had!

**wrightygtt** · 14-01-2009, 20:10

Awesome feature, your car did us all proud!

My opinion is 5's regardless of tyre size are all pretty sketchy in the wet! but having 13's in those conditions is just like pissing in the wind.

**Big Steve - Raider** · 15-01-2009, 15:54

Anyone seen the comments from Matthew Tiller has made on the on the following Fifth Gear streaming link??

LINK

To save you the bother of clicking there have a read below:

Matthew Tiller 14 January 2009 14:07

Hello,

A real shame, I thought, that the Fifth Gear team chose to race the new Twingo against a 5 Turbo with knackered old tyres as I don't think the challenge provided a fair reflection of the cars performance. There are plenty of well maintained Fives out there running on new tyres (mine for one). I know I shouldn't take it personally but I have! Additionally ,a final point is that when the R5 left the factory the turbo was set to boost at a very conservative 6psi and will run comfortably at pressures of up to 12psi without causing damage or excessive wear to other components.

So, please conduct the same test only this time use my car which standard throughout (no mods) and has a brand spanking set of tyres.

Are you a member of the RTOC Matthew??

If so I look forward to discussing your criticisms of my car at the next RTOC meet....

Does anyone know the :sourgrapes: smiley??

**Deano** · 15-01-2009, 16:53

These are links to download the episode if you've not seen it

http://rapidshare.com/files/18038149...iVER.part1.rar

http://rapidshare.com/files/18038246...iVER.part2.rar

Your 5 looks tidy mate well done,

**Big Steve - Raider** · 15-01-2009, 16:56

Originally Posted by Mart

Anyone thought about sending an invite to Fifth Gear for our ND? Even if they say no, at least it kinda shows we appreciate the fact they at least featured a gtt, even if it was comparing it to its newer brother.

I recieved this message through YouTube:

Hi Steve,

Did you enjoy the shootout then?

Mark (the director)

So following on from Mart's post I've replied with the following:

Hi Mark,

Yeah the shootout was FANTASTIC mate!!

Top marks for getting the No Bling at the Ring 07 Sticker in, that made me & half the owners club chuckle alright!! :-D

As a thank you we'd like to invite Fifth Gear to one of the Renault Turbo Owners Club days if you would be interested?? We've two planned for this year, a day at Santa Pod Raceway & then a Day at Mallory Park?? Maybe you could make use of one of our events for a feature on the show or have a hot hatch shootout or something???

We'd certainly like the opportunity to have a re-match versus the Twingo on a dry track someday!!

If you're interested or we/I can help you any further please don't hesitate to contact me?

Regards

Steve

Will let you know if I get a response?!

**Mart** · 15-01-2009, 17:35

Matthew Tiller - What a complete & utter fecking cheese flavoured prick of the highest order.

At 6psi, the Twingo would've definitely trounced the gtt, let alone giving it a reasonable crack running 1bar, and to be fair, in the wet, on standard 13" rims, it's not really gonna make that much difference which tyre is being used; the Twingo would probably still win.

They also left the factory with anything from 5-10psi boost (sharky French tolerances), and they'll run considerably more than 12psi without inflicting damage or excessive wear if set up correctly.

It would be a fairer test in the dry, but regardless, the motor got featured on tv, which is always a nice thing to see, and it put on a bloody good show considering the technology of a gtt is 25 years old at best.

Well done Steve with the 'invite'. Let's hope they reply back

**jesus in the seat of a 5** · 15-01-2009, 17:47

It would be a fairer test in the dry, but regardless, the motor got featured on tv, which is always a nice thing to see, and it put on a bloody good show considering the technology of a gtt is 25 years old at best.

Well done Steve with the 'invite'. Let's hope they reply back

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...well said mart, couldnt agree more, top darts...

**Mart** · 15-01-2009, 17:57

You know that, my holy bro

**matty j** · 15-01-2009, 18:55

love your 5 steve
and regardless of any road test the 5 is better in so many ways especially with regards to looks and road presences to tunibility, the twingo is definatly aimed for the young 18 year olds wheres as the 5 has a much wider audience FACT!

**BriC** · 15-01-2009, 19:09

Originally Posted by matty j

wheres as the 5 has a much wider audience FACT!

Disagree. Most people who don't know much about cars (which is the vast majority of people) just see it as an old chav mobile. That's from my experience anyway.

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