thanks all. It's nice to finally see the car again and not just the moulds. There is lot of fitting and trimming to be done however.
thanks all
Wow!!
After working with certain rear arch extension moulds, I had some spare time today so I decided to continue fitting the parts for the door.
I definetly need to paint all the matt black plastics parts since they look so worn and pale now. Now that lock and hinges are done, besides final adjusting and finishing, I need to fit the window mechanism next which will be quite interesting.
Top work fella, looking great
what are you doing about door cards?
I have carbon door cards (sheet). But Im thinking of making similar lower part out of carbon which holds stuff at the original door cards. Not my priority right now since outer panels are not done and body needs painting first.
Have you decided on the body colour?
Im seriously considering the carbon sleeper look we spoke here earlier. Vinyl wrap the metal shell and clear coat everything to same gloss. I need to test that to see if it looks nice or just stupid. If it doesnt work then I may stick with the red.
still really awesome progress! everything looks to fit like stock!
What about a real carbon wrap on the shell, carbon vinyl never looks as good but you could easily wrap the shell in real carbon fabric, then brush on some resin, sand and lacquer :-)Originally Posted by Harri
I've thought about that too. I know it could be done but I'm bit worried how the carbon will stick under long term to steel. Surface area is huge and they have different thermal expansion rates. Also carbon does galvanic corrosion to steel so it has to be 100% electrically insulated from steel. Do you know if someone has laminated carbon on top of a car body with success?
Hi i have laminated my roof with carbon its been done for about 3years now with out any problems bought the proper kit with the black resin base coat and then lay the carbon on cover with resin sand and recoat until its smooth then laquered it.i could put a pic on but i cant put them on on my ipad does any know how pm. Me please
Same problem when trying to upload pictures with Android.
I'm planning on replacing roof with real carbon panel but seeing how it worked out would definitely motivate me to do the side areas.
PM sent requesting pictures
I had my ole tungy 5 roof carbon fibre wrapped with the 3m decent stuff it had the weave in it and looked good but no where near as good as the proper carbon stuff, although with laquer it may have looked ok.
Harri have to say am loving your work
Thanks mk5gtt and James5 for the pictures. I'm convinced that I need to investigate about laminating carbon on top of the side shell
i did my mirror bases by spraying black, then a thin coat of resin, then layed twill on top, then a few more coats, sand back and laquer. obviously a DA would probably be handy on a whole car, or one coat of resin to stick the fabric to the car, then i'd probably use lacquer to bury the weave instead of resin, just get it on so its buried, DA back then go finer and finer
Do you have pictures of the mirrors you made? Also, since my motherlanguage is not english, what's DA?
https://www.rtoc.org/boards/album.php...pictureid=6390Do you have pictures of the mirrors you made? Also, since my motherlanguage is not english, what's DA?
https://www.rtoc.org/boards/album.php...pictureid=6389
and a da is a dual action polisher
window rail fitted, edges are also almost done. Fitting stuff from "outside of the car" is much easier now that outer panel is not yet bonded to the door. It fits much better but I still need to work on adjusting the door panels perfectly together.
trimmed tailgate edges today and trial fitted the lockpanel. I think I know now what to do with the badges, I'll paint the edges of them in red to create contrast and then clearcoat everything.
Looks superb
i want one!!!!
I think it was James5 at page2 who originally convinced me to do carbon tailgate even though I had glass fiber one already. I'm quite happy that I did.
WOW.
Hi just sent you a email with the pictures of my carbon badges with painted edges
i want , i want , i want , i want , i want.........
Nice, did I make those badges originally? They do look really good painted. I was thinking of painting just the edges of the letters though. Are you ok if I upload those pictures in this topic?
I think they were from you got them off ebay yes you can upload any pictures ive sent
yep, they were mine then.
Mountings for LH rear arch extension finally done and bolted. Only took about year to do them
The masking tape I used to originally trial fit them has completely melted to the body.
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looking well harri
When we see the completed back end it's going to be amazing.
Tailgate inc spoiler, over light trims, under light trims, badges and rear bumper!
I bought stainless steel bolt assortment today to fit all the panels with stainless bolts if anyhow possible. Where Renault uses special bolts I just need to reuse them but all the rest are going to change little by little.
Out of curiosity I googled first aluminium and the carbon fiber bolts. Alloy bolts are around £1 each but these are the really expensive stuff:
http://www.schmolke-carbon.de/carbon...uk/schraub.php
Im not that crazy, but I wonder how much weight could be saved with these? I wonder how much weigth is in the R5s bolts if those which need to have certain strength are not taken into account. By that I mean suspension and engine internals etc.
i think you should harri!
Yeah, ok
If I decide to target under 600 kilos I may have to rethink this. Under 700 target is fine for now. Last time I drove the car the brakes felt powerful enough even without the brake booster since it's becoming so light. Fronts are clio16v brakes which help a bit as well. I wonder how much the booster weights..
You mean the servo? I'd say that was a few kg saving to be had getting rid of that and associated gubbins. Would it be safe, legal and able to pass an MOT though??
It should pass MOT if the pedal force needed is not too high. But you are right that gains are minimal, however Im running out of cheap options to reduce the weight.
Harri. Can you just stop being awesome for a bit please ? I am feeling slightly inadequate now ..
I can make you similar carbon fiber body panels if you want. Spec can be anything from full carbon to carbon-glass or even kevlar or kevlar-carbon hybrid. My panels actually fit quite similar way as OE, at least the ones I have fitted completely. sorry for the off-topic pitch..
Oh, no I meant 'a few kg' it in a positive way. When you're trying to eek out weight savings on a car that's already very light, a few kg is big potatoes!
If it's legal and you can get safe performance (which I wouldn't know anything about), then it's worth considering.
I can do brake dyno at my work so I could see the difference with or without on comfortable pedal force levels. I've dealt with racecars without brake booster, it all depends on brake caliper/disc size/master caliper piston size and brake pedal ratio. And of course weight. With R5 I don't care about comfortness so it comes to more if it feels good to drive or not. I think I will just test this and decide then.
If every kg counts you could go nuts, although not sure how safe it would be without a cage but swagging the hole gives it strength so may end up lighter and stronger? Plus it looks cool
Maybe a after market pedal box with its own reservoirs would save a bit of weight, less fluids and some amount of adjustability? Not sure how they work just looks cool
Only if I can pay in Revels as I am brassic at the minute
I can make you similar carbon fiber body panels if you want. Spec can be anything from full carbon to carbon-glass or even kevlar or kevlar-carbon hybrid. My panels actually fit quite similar way as OE, at least the ones I have fitted completely. sorry for the off-topic pitch..
How do you swag those holes? This "cupmod" is something I've been thinking of doing. And due to upcoming roof conversion I will install roll cage. The car still needs to be track capable.
If every kg counts you could go nuts, although not sure how safe it would be without a cage but swagging the hole gives it strength so may end up lighter and stronger? Plus it looks cool
Maybe a after market pedal box with its own reservoirs would save a bit of weight, less fluids and some amount of adjustability? Not sure how they work just looks cool
M&Ms are more of my taste
WOW...... what can i say about this post? besides outstanding.... i dont post much on here, i just sit up all night like i have been tonight and read stuff, usually get a bit bored and start reading a new post. But ive read this from start to finish because its amazing...
if my opinion counts, i do vehicle wrapping for a living. And if you wrap the rest of the car in 3M di-noc it just wont look right because the rest of the car is real C/F. But like you say, can you rely on real carbon over metal work? I have no idea, but this post is really something. I feel massively inadequate right now.
Cut a hole with one of these
11PC HOLE SAW CUTTING SET KIT 19-64MM WOOD METAL ALLOYS
http://bit.ly/Wy0BUA
Then use one of these
19mm HOLE FLARING TOOL RACE AVIATION FABRICATION SWAGE
http://bit.ly/UVVRMl
Job done
Thanks, hole drilling was already familiar
I would appreciate if people who have done this would post any R5 pictures showing these holes. Like pattern&sizes and in which areas. I remember seeing at least red R5 pictures once.
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