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    C2L head chamber try

    Hello.

    Here put pics of one C2L Head with chamber worked like Group A ...

    Original Volume = 36,6cm3
    Modified Volume = 38,0cm3

    I hope like!!
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    Re: C2L head chamber try

    Any benefit using a C2L head over a C1J head?

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    Re: C2L head chamber try

    More compression so more responsive off boost but more chance of det?

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    Re: C2L head chamber try

    valves bigger?

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    Re: C2L head chamber try

    hello....

    no no no...

    I put the pictures to show the work in the chambers....thats all.

    The Head of the C2L have no benefit.

    I use the piston has a shaft in the head,unlike 1397cc renault turbo pistons.

    This engine is a 1565cc

    stroke 84 x 77

    give time and i put a C2L turbo piston...

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    Re: C2L head chamber try

    ah i c sounds interesting

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    Re: C2L head chamber try

    Quote Originally Posted by dann View Post
    hello....

    no no no...

    I put the pictures to show the work in the chambers....thats all.

    The Head of the C2L have no benefit.

    I use the piston has a shaft in the head,unlike 1397cc renault turbo pistons.

    This engine is a 1565cc

    stroke 84 x 77

    give time and i put a C2L turbo piston...
    Does sound an interesting build you got going there

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    Re: C2L head chamber try

    hahaa,,thanks...!!

    Here we have no the developed parts that you have,,,, parts like Piper cams....
    Or the parts is too expensive here.

    I think here you could take much more than us.. hahah....

    look at the crankshaft, this has 8 counterweights, and 1397 has only 4







    here the pistons...look at the head...


    and the.... I dont know how named in English....hha ha ooohh yeaahhh LINERS?? no steel made...







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    Re: C2L head chamber try

    Fantastic work, keep it up maybe you could pick up a cam when u guys come for our national day :P

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    Re: C2L head chamber try

    Quote Originally Posted by Tony Walker View Post
    Fantastic work, keep it up maybe you could pick up a cam when u guys come for our national day :P
    Thanks Tony Walker !!!

    haha ... I love to go .... you never know .... I am far .... and my English is very bad .... haha but you never know ... maybe I can travel .. i have to save money... yeah!



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    Re: C2L head chamber try

    we never got the c2L here, only in south america and turkey i believe.

    re cams :

    if carriage from brasil costs less for you, then these guys:

    http://www.daluz-racing.com.br/

    are a catcams dealer.

    see

    www.catcams.be

    for their choice of meaty cams.....

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    Re: C2L head chamber try

    Quote Originally Posted by Sparkie View Post
    we never got the c2L here, only in south america and turkey i believe.

    re cams :

    if carriage from brasil costs less for you, then these guys:

    http://www.daluz-racing.com.br/

    are a catcams dealer.

    see

    www.catcams.be

    for their choice of meaty cams.....
    thanks Sparkie!! this is a very valuable information

    I send an Email....

    I have to ask.... is the piper cam 285 = Cat Cams 285? be the same...?

    Thanks mates!!!

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    Re: C2L head chamber try

    https://www.rtoc.org/cam/?cam=Piper+2...vance=0&vc=0.2

    since you have a bigger engine the cat cam (5500327) should work well for you (I assume you will be using a bigger turbo). I don't know if they will sell it as it used to be exclusive.

    Do you live at altitude?

    With the 78mm piston you might be able to de-shroud the valves (I tried to find a nice link explaining, but failed).

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    Re: C2L head chamber try

    have you a pics of the engine bloc?

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    Re: C2L head chamber try

    the 84 crank whith c1j bloc engine,the passage is weak




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    Re: C2L head chamber try

    How much material needs to be removed to allow the crank to rotate cleanly without contact? Do you need to factor in thermal expansion?

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    Re: C2L head chamber try

    perhaps allow for some bearing wear too? altho oil pressure should centralise it.

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    Re: C2L head chamber try

    Quote Originally Posted by Andrew Cooke View Post
    https://www.rtoc.org/cam/?cam=Piper+2...vance=0&vc=0.2

    since you have a bigger engine the cat cam (5500327) should work well for you (I assume you will be using a bigger turbo). I don't know if they will sell it as it used to be exclusive.

    Do you live at altitude?

    With the 78mm piston you might be able to de-shroud the valves (I tried to find a nice link explaining, but failed).
    Hello Andrew... it's not my engine...is 1 work i have to do for...
    Mi engine is a 1397cc .... here is too common engine the 1565cc.

    Piper cam 285 is peak lift 9.955 and the BB5500327 is 9.61 , dont understand why the "327" will work better with bigger turbos ?

    Thanks Andrew

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    Re: C2L head chamber try

    Quote Originally Posted by pascal-GT View Post
    have you a pics of the engine bloc?
    Yes Sr.

    here ... you are right! de Bloc is worked (modification) at factory...to allow the crankshaft...

















    go sleep engine!!gooo..!!


    take care of yours fingers!! hahaa.... it's hurts!! i know... hhaha
    http://www.youtube.com/v/itgC91tYGdA


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    Re: C2L head chamber try

    Good old Renault!

    take one block, attack with:



    and you get:





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    Re: C2L head chamber try

    Quote Originally Posted by Sparkie View Post
    Hahahaa.....!!! That's the RENAULT TOOLS --M.O.T 144293-12 ? --- hahaha

    I have a Clio C2L Bloc in Home and I take photos of that bloc...


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