I'm pretty sure theres a slot for a key on the 172 crank, it just isn't used.
I'm pretty sure theres a slot for a key on the 172 crank, it just isn't used.
There is yeah, but it doesn't work with the meggy keyed pully like everyone has said it does, that makes me think it might be an odd crank, I'll post pics to show what I mean
top pully is the one that was on the clio and the bottom one is the meggy item, and the key is cast into it so cantbe moved.
and you can just make out that the crank hasnt got a slot on keyway, either everyones been saying itll work but hasnt tried it (duff info) ive got the wrong part (tho have the known part number for it) or its an oddball crank?
can anyone confirm that theres looks like this one? i could make a key up for it just a pain now ive got the pullys and im not in work till next week to do it
You just need a woodruff key for the crank and use original pulley... no?
yeah, just would liked to know how ive got a mix up and £100s worth of useless parts
Can't really help you with that problem, its just that the crank has a keyway...the original pulley has a keyway.....might has been an interesting exersise to get a williams or 16v R19/clio woodruff key and plop it in....pence (£1.55 roughly...P/N 7703070007) compared to £££'s
not a bad shout atall, now been told that how this crank is, is defo not normal for a 172? a few pics would be good to confirm that tho, anyone have a pic of a valver woodruff key?
Is it the block with the external water pump driven by the aux belt?
Or the later block with the cambelt driven water pump..?
I'm guessing you are using the original engine....so phase 1....and aux belt driven.
Basically the same bottom end as the clio williams.
Here you are.....
Crank and back of pulley (home made pulley removal tool obscures the other side) Clio 16v 1.8.
Hope this helps.....
cheers me dears, looks promising
No probs, after doing lots to R5 GTT's and Clio 16v/Williams....I do the RS Clio's now, so have an interest in this stuff....
Matt5@codered
well i cant get the part till weds at the earliest so will post on here to let you know the out come
Yeah, cool.
Matt5@codered.
Something not right with that crank mate, just checked the one outa my 5 and its slotted right through to the face. I've got another 2 engines in the garage but they both have the bottom pulleys on so haven't checked them.... But looking at you're new meggy pulley it should fit onto a "normal" 172 crank
Tis an odd one, this is my mates engine, suposed to do mine tomorrow, hopefully the meggy pully will go straight on mine
Any news??
woodruff key will be in stock tomorrow, bit busy but will check it fits staight away, finish the cambelt then do the bottom pully on my engine, either with the meggy pully or if its also an oddball the woodruff key.
if all goes to plan will see me ready to bolt up the sc next week
key fits the crank, needed to file the pully slightly for it to slide on, then we knocked it on the head so my pully still isnt on yet, was planning on having the sc all on and running by next weekend, will see how it goes
are you fitting a bov /bypass valve in front of the throttle plate ,just a thought , or you could end up bending/breaking things on closed throttle , all that air has got to go somewhere, tried a 25mm bov on mine ,and found it too restrictive, maybe go for a 35mm job or bigger? the mini's have a 38mm bypass valve as standard, know yours is a rotrex not eaton , like i said just a thought
fitted a 50mm bov on mine
on a more serious note , was shocked at how much pressure was released out the bov,even at idle
Not really thought about it tbh?
great work adey ,looks well mate
right so today i put the car on the dyno, just to see if it made somewhere close to stock power and to make sure there were no major faults with her before bolting the sc on. she made a huge 170 on the nose so nothing major worng there, most stock 172s make about 155-160 on these rollers so she isnt doing too bad with an exhaust decat and air filter. will see what she makes by the end of the week (fingers crossed)
today was the first day i could really get to work on the car. took off everything not needed and bolted on as much as i could before needing to get parts made.
started off as this
now at this point
first job for me in the morning is to get a high pressure pas line made up, hope to get it done while i wait, tho in reality that probably wont happen, also waiting on a belt and a few spacers to be made, these probably wont be in untill the after noon. so with not much to do i will mount the intercooler and oil cooler and fit the new suspension and 2118 speedlines
if all goes well she should be up and running ready for mapping on friday
Good progress mate, can't believe your following the clio sport flock and fitting 2118's
You going to ND?
Lol I do like them and these have been painted black gold so are a little different. Yeah plan too, well if it all holds together :-D
I need to see this in person, that SC won't squeeze in the R5 bay will it?
Although I'm prepared to hack the car to make it fit
I've got about an inch of clearance, would defo need to chop the car with these brackets, could just get custom ones made ;-p
trying to load some pics of todays progress tho cant get them off the phone at the mo
outa interest, can anyone recomend a spark plug to use?
I use the meg R26 plugs in mine mate and I'm certain thats what Ktec stick in there low pressure turbo conversions. As you'll be somewhere in the middle with regards to power I'm sure they'll work fine
excelent didnt think of them for some reason, do you know if the meggy users change them when they have remaps?
Not that I know of, I'm sure Paul ran stock plugs in his R26R when it was at 330bhp.
Mines at 374 at the minute and when I took them out to check the compression they were spot on.
awesome cheers bud
so today saw her start up for the first time, alot done but not quick enough, i really needed to get her to the point of starting this morning so the mapping could be done in the afternoon but due to waiting on yet more parts it didnt happen untill this afternoon. the chap who was going to do it for me is off to autosport tomorrow now so itll have to wait till next week. it gives me some time to finish up some small bits as ive thrown this together in abot of a rush, small things like proper mounting of the intercooler and oil cooler, tidy up of the wiring in the bay and in the car as i relocated the battery to the wheel well in a pikey fashion.
happy to say on a ruff map taken off a 182 she started first time with no leaks the noise is abit different and act quite loud, will try and post a vid of her if i can. tommorow i will tidy up what i can and take her for a small test drive to double check for leaks and make sure she doesnt throw a belt or anything but it looks like she wont be ready untill the end of next week now :-(
i decided to check the gearbox oil and couldnt feel anything so thought it best i top her up, a bit of a worry was she took the whole 3 ltrs so not sure how long the box will take the increased abuse
its uber tight under the bonnet now so a few things will be moved in the future, a front mounted fan is defo on the list.
getting there.
how she sits now, had to remove the fog light surounds as they were hitting the oil cooler and intercooler pipework. ive opted to leave the grill out for now as i think the filter needs as much cold air as possible and the side of it is pressed up against the rad. cant wait to get her fully finished and running flat out
forgot to add one with no bumper on
Good work buddy, I presume the black 182 in the back ground of the photos is your instruction booklet?
Indeed it was, well a ruff guide as mines a little different but it gave me a decent idea
Ha ha sounds spot on Adey, bet your gagging to get it mapped and out for a thrash
Indeed, can't wait, guna be a right laugh if it doesn't destroy itself
Yeah take it easy on the box, I stripped third completely in mine the other day
I'm now the proud owner of the only four speed clio Trophy in the world
Looking Good Adey, be interested in a few laps with you if you're taking it to Mallory? See how it compares to the turbo.
yes bud, will be up for that, well if she lasts that long
So not much I could do today so fitted a battey tray and took the car for a spin, was more to make sure she didn't fall apart so didn't involve anything heavy but she feels eager to go even at light throttle and with a basic get her running map, uber chuffed
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S0feUL9d5lc
Last edited by Adey aka Ewok; 14-01-2011 at 13:32.