Ok here is the new backyard racing project a Honda Civic esi. We are building this car between us all over the winter as a drag car ready for next spring having all chipped cash in to a pot for the build. The car didnt cost a great deal and is rough in places but is perfect for what we want with the correct Z6 D16 engine and gearbox and the right ecu for the hondata.
The car:
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Last edited by Rob@Backyardracing; 03-06-2009 at 19:54.
wow, huge cavity that screams 'put turbo here'.
I really should have a closer look at my mums civic, it looks like that, and I know it's a 1.6, but that's been the limit of my interest. She must have had it 10 years
about timewill ant's pile of bits be used or is he still building his own ?
Sorry about the large pics, my photobucket pain in arse...
Anyway, yes ants bits are going on. Still got a far amount of bits to buy yet but with the car between 3 of us it works out great. Well after a night of thrashing the N/A lump around and plenty of booze today we made a start.
Arrrrrrrrrr oh and its going to be a turbo
loads of room for big fun...
Now the engine starts to come out.........
We then ditch all the PAS crap etc...
And now the fun part starts................
Last edited by Rob@Backyardracing; 26-10-2008 at 21:46.
nice to see something different
can i ask what made you choose the d16 over the b16 lump? im assuming the cost?
am i right in thinking the d16 is non vtec.?
would keep a keen eye on this project as i may be doing the same but with a civic b16a vti.
that first picture is worth 1000 words Raj.Originally Posted by raj
What's the blower?
raj we went for the d16 as its alot cheaper than the B, may not be as good but still a good motor to start with...
The turbo is t3/t4 same as scoffs i think? kung fuiiiiiii of course
I thought all you ricers ran T3/T67sraj we went for the d16 as its alot cheaper than the B, may not be as good but still a good motor to start with...
The turbo is t3/t4 same as scoffs i think? kung fuiiiiiii of course
Last edited by Andrew Cooke; 26-10-2008 at 21:22.
Few more pics here: Suz G16 pistons as found in the 1.6 suzuki vatra 16v which will be fitted, 0.5 oversize so need block work yet also we need to do a few block mods for the rods which are yet to arrive as these will catch the block with them being thicker. The pistons also sit lower in the block so drops the cr for us. Longer rods are available to bring this back but we going for the std length and staying safe for now.
Also few bits below ready for the build..
As you can see we are starting basic with the basic cast mani. Seems tho that a few guys in states still make decent power with these. We will also be leaving the cam and inlet mani as std. We just want to get the thing running and to cross line at pod before we start to go to town with the thing..
the d16 engine is productive too (lots of people seem to ignore it in favour of the b series motors) here is a link to the current record holder with the d16 motor, this is an older vid, he has since gone 9.11@158, this is with 1 cam and no NOS. http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=YccjIP9Qlsc
now were never going to get near him, however there are others using very similar setups to us (suzuki virara pistons/same turbo etc), running 10.3@139 which is impressive given the budget nature of the car and parts used, and is road legal to boot
can i ask what the parts have cost so far.?
Car plus all parts to date is a grand spent...
suzuki varta? virara? you mean vitara right
they seem quiet impressive - http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=HZdGcg...eature=related
and 400bhp
Thats the badgersuzuki varta? virara? you mean vitara right
i like this very much
Backyard stylz
This is very interesting...........keep the updates flowing.....
if you thought R5's were fast for no money, these things win hands down, why more people in the UK don't tune them I don't know. watch this space people, this will shift
its got me wanting to do one now
that and the fact my bro thinks his vti is the best car in the worldhe dropping a k20 engine. so maybe ill do something with his b16a?? but as mentioned..costs are an issue. good performance on a budget is what i like
rob, can you let us know where your sourcing all your bits from.?
it seems a pretty easy conversion,
the only thing that'll have me thinking is as youve mentioned about the rods catching he block! will this be something you'll do yourself or get a engineer shop to machine the block so the rods clear it?
im assuming the block wll have to sent to a machine shop to be bored for the pistons to fit?
really interested in this mate. keep the detailed pics coming
seems so cheap for big power, theres plenty of civics with that engine going round for peanuts, hmmmm sounds like fun. yeah defo keep the updates flowing
one of my friends is currently doing the same conversion, although in a del sol, Hes tried to do it on the real cheap though, and is struggling, hes looking for a decent place to get it mapped i believe at the moment,, not sure if he was looking at the hondata route or megasquirt., ah well best of look, i dont have much of a clue with jap.
its got me wanting to do one now
that and the fact my bro thinks his vti is the best car in the world
rob, can you let us know where your sourcing all your bits from.?
it seems a pretty easy conversion,
the only thing that'll have me thinking is as youve mentioned about the rods catching he block! will this be something you'll do yourself or get a engineer shop to machine the block so the rods clear it?
im assuming the block wll have to sent to a machine shop to be bored for the pistons to fit?
really interested in this mate. keep the detailed pics coming
Most of the parts are from states, id have to search for which company is what to where the parts came from, you can buy kits but they are crap and would fall to bits. The block will be bored by an engineer the rest by us. The conversion part is rather easy i guess but setting up is where things may get harder.
Good darts chaps
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raj (or anyone else wanting info) best checking the site www.turbod16.com
thats the owners club, only turbo d16 motors on there and lots of knowledgeable people, and build threads to noisy at, there very similar to this club in that they like trap speeds etc rather than silly dyno quotes, not a bad site.
nice one for that link
im goin to hold back untill youve finished yours so i can get a full idea on the actual cost to do the conversion
i want one, NOW lol
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Glad too see you have got it off the ground should be screamer! I have been doing a lot of digging since speaking to you and Dean at the last event! I Think these will catch on big style once one or two people have had a play! Turbod16 seems to be a good site already had a butchers at that! Also like the way you have gone for the cast manifold, the tubular ebay specials dont seem to be very highly thought of!! What do they go like in N/A form?
in n/a form imo there slowwww. they seem flat throughout the rev range
Ron, in N/A form its about a match to a clio 16v or felt that at time. Some of the tubular manis are copys and crap so the cast seems a good base to start.
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Well i will be watching this thread! Does this mean the end of the clio?
Nice one Rob & the rest of the Backyardigans, will keep an eye on this, i'm thinking of a new project of some sorts myself...... I miss my GTT
I dont know at this moment... would like to efi and go from there...... if cash was in front off me tho things soon change....
Right chaps small update with few boring pics too. We stripped engine down last week and all looks well with no nasty marks
So now all the parts are cleaned up we ready for the next step which is to work out what sort of piston to wall clearance we should run before we ship it over to a machine shop also hoping the bores are cast and not steel, plated with nickel, as i have a feeling that may cost to get a re coat. With the Vitara pistons being NA with a less tapper compared to a turbo (correct me if im wrong) im kinda thinking to keep the ring gaps on the larger size to future proof the engine for big power, heat expansions.. better lose than tight...also need to decided which way to fit the piston arrows as the honda rotates anti-clockwise and the Suz clock. But P2V contact isnt an issue anyway with it going lowcomp so just go with pin offset if any.. Need to do some measuring over next few days..
November 8TH update..
Ok more work done today just with cleaning and stripping down the suspension/ brakes. Firstly took the car for a good steam clean down at deans work then made a start on stripping calipers and cleaning/freeing up. We are also overhauling both the drive shafts so they were stripped down and we going to fit new ball joints and bearings. All a bit boring now and waiting for parts which should be here next week.
November 19th
At last the rods have arrived and the ARP2000 bolts
they look good, are they prooven to be good? fjr spec, ive not heard of them before.
ace man, ull have to put up a list of where you sourced all your bits so us lamos who want to do the same can find it all lol
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my my, what an impressive rod you have, so thick and.....errrr strong...
looking good mate another nice project. will be good to see this at pod
[quote=Andrew Cooke;16090]that first picture is worth 1000 words Raj.
pmsl.
Nice work m8 should be a good en! Let us know how you get on with the hondata I may have another job for you if you want when your done with yours????
Right chaps update... The new clutch arrived last week from states and the engine is allmost fully built back up, also we have all the oil lines needed now for the conversion and just needs a full trial fit. Had the block machined for the over size pistons and went for a P2W clearance of 3.5 thou in the end which should be good for what level of power we want. We then had to notch the block for the rods and the pistons aswell. All seems well tho so far and hoping to get the engine fitted next weekend and fired up over xmas hols. We going to run it NA as it came and run the engine in before swapping manifold etc and management (yet to buy)....
Will update soon with pics...
looking forward to pod next year
Few pics of where we at and also the clutch and the pistons new height in bore..........
More pics to be found here also
http://s331.photobucket.com/albums/l...vic%20project/
Is that a 3071 blower?
without water? Mart, you're losing it
Is that a 3071 blower?
Its the cheapo T04E....
The webbed markings on the compressor housing threw me
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