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    4pots

    Does anyone have any advice on 4pots? Tryd looking for some on the Internet but havnt got far, anyone got any links to some websites? Thinking about getting some and want to no how much i'd be looking at.. And what peoples opinions are on the different makes, thanks

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    Re: 4pots

    they cost a few quid, you'd then stuck on 15s which isn't so bad.. a cheap bigger brake kit can be made up using disks of other cars, standard pads and caliper extenders if you can find them..

    but if i was fronting the money i'd go for the 4 pots, not that you really need them..

    on the other hand rear calipers are £100 odd a piece on the net and fronts are 40 or so..

    why no i say..

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    Re: 4pots

    Quote Originally Posted by benj88 View Post
    Does anyone have any advice on 4pots?
    Yeah, save your money.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dangerous dave View Post
    they cost a few quid, you'd then stuck on 15s which isn't so bad.. a cheap bigger brake kit can be made up using disks of other cars, standard pads and caliper extenders if you can find them..

    but if i was fronting the money i'd go for the 4 pots, not that you really need them..

    on the other hand rear calipers are £100 odd a piece on the net and fronts are 40 or so..

    why no i say..
    Iv got 15s on now mate, I no there not really needed they just look mint that's all, like the willwoods.. Can you get that kit for the 5?

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    Quote Originally Posted by benj88 View Post
    I no there not really needed they just look mint that's all
    So do foxes, but you wouldn't go covering your car in those, would you?

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    Re: 4pots

    Quote Originally Posted by The new Bill J View Post
    So do foxes, but you wouldn't go covering your car in those, would you?
    That was awful bill

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    Quote Originally Posted by TrixNFlix View Post
    That was awful bill


    At least you got it

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    Quote Originally Posted by The new Bill J View Post


    At least you got it
    wish i hadn't

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    Quote Originally Posted by TrixNFlix View Post
    wish i hadn't

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    Re: 4pots


    all that car needs now is a KTEC over haul and 4 pots.

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    Quote Originally Posted by car.crash View Post

    all that car needs now is a KTEC over haul and 4 pots.

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    Lol. So does everyone think 4pots are gay then I think they do look good though, I no there not needed, never mind I only wanted some links

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    Re: 4pots

    http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Red-Brembo-Sty...item3cad26f700
    here you go, now you can be just like the subaru boys, but dont forget the matching subaru jacket, hat, decals, t shirt, key ring, mug, glasses, shoes, tattoo's etc etc.

    i would run 4 pots myself but i like to be able to slip 13's on for the track. i tried and tried to get ultralites under 13's but lack of discs killed it in the end but the caliper will go under without much hasssle according to the guy who was mocking it up for me. im sure if somone was to put more effort into finding a set of discs to fit its perfectly do-able on stock rims.
    Last edited by car.crash; 16-06-2010 at 18:38.

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    Quote Originally Posted by benj88 View Post
    Lol. So does everyone think 4pots are gay then
    Yep, 6 pots are where it's at

    They're not 'gay' at all. A set of monster brakes looks the nuts behind a set of wheels (but then I would say that ). The thing is, it's a hell of a lot of money to spend on something that just 'looks good'.

    However, the bottom line is that it's your money, and your choice. Each to their own and all that malarkey

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    Re: 4pots

    ive got four pots/300mm discs on my 5,and to be fair yeah there not really needed.but they do look good
    the only drawback is i cant run drag slicksive been in two minds recently do i sell them?dont i sell them?prob just wait and see what direction i end up going with the 5

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    Quote Originally Posted by The new Bill J View Post
    Yep, 6 pots are where it's at

    They're not 'gay' at all. A set of monster brakes looks the nuts behind a set of wheels (but then I would say that ). The thing is, it's a hell of a lot of money to spend on something that just 'looks good'.

    However, the bottom line is that it's your money, and your choice. Each to their own and all that malarkey
    Well said

    They are quality, im putting them on my fiat cinq

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    Quote Originally Posted by tubby5 View Post
    ive got four pots/300mm discs on my 5,and to be fair yeah there not really needed.but they do look good
    the only drawback is i cant run drag slicksive been in two minds recently do i sell them?dont i sell them?prob just wait and see what direction i end up going with the 5
    Well of you do want to sell them mate give me a pm sometime

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    Re: 4pots

    i've got hi-specs, noticable improvement in braking feel, you can brake harder and it doesn't lock up they are very progressive and bite hard, but..... would i spend another £700 on them on another car..... nope...

    they do look sexual however:




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    I'd never buy another set of Hi-spec brakes. That's a comment among many too.

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    After 10 laps of thruxton on o.e brakes tell me 4 pots are gay. I even run in to fade with the hi-specs sometimes, usally braking down from over a 100

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    I've never had fade on track with oe brakes. Admittedly, I've always been light on brakes, but at Donington once, Mart was out in my coupe and he came into the pits with smoke pouring from the front brakes. We aimed a temperature probe at the wheels and it came in at 600 degrees (the paint had melted off of them ).

    He said that there was no fade though

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    Quote Originally Posted by The new Bill J View Post
    I've never had fade on track with oe brakes. Admittedly, I've always been light on brakes, but at Donington once, Mart was out in my coupe and he came into the pits with smoke pouring from the front brakes. We aimed a temperature probe at the wheels and it came in at 600 degrees (the paint had melted off of them ).

    He said that there was no fade though

    There wouldn't have been. Mart is so heavy on any pedal, generally when it's not his car, he probably put his foot through the floor and it was his feet smoking.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Adam L View Post
    There wouldn't have been. Mart is so heavy on any pedal, generally when it's not his car, he probably put his foot through the floor and it was his feet smoking.


    It was half his car at the time. Although probably not the half that included the braking system

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    Quote Originally Posted by rs250nut View Post
    After 10 laps of thruxton on o.e brakes tell me 4 pots are gay.
    Ok, they're gay

    Perhaps you were running w8nky pads, as I've personally never suffered brake fade on track in Trusty, T-cup, my old Raider, or my Evo - All had/have o.e discs & calipers in situ.

    Benj, it's your car, so go for it, if that's what you want. Just avoid the Hi-Spec stuff though.

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    Re: 4pots

    What pads did you use mart?

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    Re: 4pots

    Pagids on the Raider & Trusty, 1st revision (which you can no longer buy) Greenstuffs on T-cup, but I'd never recommend any of the current *stuffs range, and Performance Friction on the Evo.

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    Re: 4pots

    Quote Originally Posted by Mart View Post
    Ok, they're gay

    Perhaps you were running w8nky pads, as I've personally never suffered brake fade on track in Trusty, T-cup, my old Raider, or my Evo - All had/have o.e discs & calipers in situ.

    Benj, it's your car, so go for it, if that's what you want. Just avoid the Hi-Spec stuff though.
    Maybe its just me then, most of the cars I have owned I have experianced fade at one time or another even on the road. The M3 being the worst.

    Edit. Just a quickie Mart, I have a set of Hi-specs and by all means know they are proabley not as good as a set from A.p , Alcon etc but what do you have against them?
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    Re: 4pots

    But with what pads in situ? You could have the largest disc possible, with an 8-pot caliper present, but it won't make a difference if you're running chocolate pads.

    Hi-Spec made a setup for one of my friends who had a very tweaked Rover Tomcat at the time (circa 8 years ago), and one of the calipers failed (leaked from one of the pistons) no less than 24hr after fitment. Thankfully it wasn't the following 24hr, where he would've been on track at Brands.

    My opinion is that you don't feck about cost-cutting when it comes to brakes, because if they fail at a wrong place, wrong time scenario, you might not live to tell the tale.

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    Lol iv started a debate, cheers for everyones feedback, i have other things to sort first but I just like 4pots iv just had my brakes done actualy iv got oe disks and greenstuff pads there ok really, think they need bleeding though, I'm thinking of getting a set of them 16" prima racing wheels and just think the standard disks and calipers look lost when you can see them threw 15+ wheels

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mart View Post
    But with what pads in situ? You could have the largest disc possible, with an 8-pot caliper present, but it won't make a difference if you're running chocolate pads.

    Hi-Spec made a setup for one of my friends who had a very tweaked Rover Tomcat at the time (circa 8 years ago), and one of the calipers failed (leaked from one of the pistons) no less than 24hr after fitment. Thankfully it wasn't the following 24hr, where he would've been on track at Brands.

    My opinion is that you don't feck about cost-cutting when it comes to brakes, because if they fail at a wrong place, wrong time scenario, you might not live to tell the tale.

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    Quote Originally Posted by benj88 View Post
    Lol iv started a debate, cheers for everyones feedback, i have other things to sort first but I just like 4pots iv just had my brakes done actualy iv got oe disks and greenstuff pads there ok really, think they need bleeding though, I'm thinking of getting a set of them 16" prima racing wheels and just think the standard disks and calipers look lost when you can see them threw 15+ wheels
    Won't need bleeding, You getting a hard pedal? you need to get them green's hot before you will notice any improvement above O.E pads. If anything they feel quite bad when you first brake on them from cold.

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    Re: 4pots

    Ap's are the way forward but all depends what you do with your car..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tarmac trasher - Nick View Post
    Won't need bleeding, You getting a hard pedal? you need to get them green's hot before you will notice any improvement above O.E pads. If anything they feel quite bad when you first brake on them from cold.
    Yeh ur rite there mate, I never thought of that, I don't tend to brake verry harsh so they probs don't really get warmd up

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    Re: 4pots

    Them ap's are smart!

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    Oh go on then, while everyone's showing off, here's mine



    They're not on a Renault though, so probably don't count

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    Re: 4pots

    lol

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    Re: 4pots

    Something MartinF has developed for the old GTA's .
    Trouble is they need 17" rims so knocking on the door of 3k to upgrade by the time you add them and new rubber .Although I do have a set of 17"s but they need spacers and weigh a hell of a lot more than the standard 15" .Pros and cons ....more upsprung weight but better brakes innit .
    I reckon I'll stick with the std stuff


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    Re: 4pots

    8 pots are where it's at now

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    Re: 4pots

    flobalob


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    Re: 4pots

    Haha

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    ahem


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    Re: 4pots

    I suppose the other downfall of having larger calipers is the cost of pads, they certainly start getting more expensive. A front set for mine now costs over £200. I'd bare that in mind.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Adam L View Post
    I suppose the other downfall of having larger calipers is the cost of pads, they certainly start getting more expensive. A front set for mine now costs over £200. I'd bare that in mind.
    Pads for my 6 pots are cheaper than for the OE Brembos.

    I've just bought a set of DS2500's and they were £90 + VAT.

    A set of DS2500's for the OE calipers are £165 + VAT.

    Big brakes FTW!

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    Quote Originally Posted by The new Bill J View Post
    Pads for my 6 pots are cheaper than for the OE Brembos.

    I've just bought a set of DS2500's and they were £90 + VAT.

    A set of DS2500's for the OE calipers are £165 + VAT.

    Big brakes FTW!
    Well that's a bit gutting, i've got the own brand 8 pot pads from K Sport, which are ok for the road but I always intended to swap them for the DS2500's as there's no comparison. They're something like £205, but i'm going to abuse the car so I guess it'd be needed...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Adam L View Post
    Well that's a bit gutting, i've got the own brand 8 pot pads from K Sport, which are ok for the road but I always intended to swap them for the DS2500's as there's no comparison. They're something like £205, but i'm going to abuse the car so I guess it'd be needed...
    The K Sport pads get slated on the MLR. Then again, so does any pad that's not Carbotech

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    Quote Originally Posted by The new Bill J View Post
    The K Sport pads get slated on the MLR. Then again, so does any pad that's not Carbotech


    I'll be honest, they piss on the stock Nissan 4 pots, as you'd expect, although I never had issues with my front brakes unless I stamped on them... Which happens quite alot with the spastics on the M4, when I shoot over to Dawn's. They're not amazing pads though

    No one really raves about the stock K Sport pads on the SXOC either, they all reckon with the DS2500's you can seriously abuse them on track lap after lap with no fade. Someone even went as far as using DS3000's (they need the be warmed up to temp though) which are apparently the utter nuts but create a funny residue that rots the ali in wheels, so you need to be religious in keeping them clean.

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    Re: 4pots

    Anyway, we've made this a Jap thread, Bill

    Back to Renault's.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Adam L View Post
    Anyway, we've made this a Jap thread, Bill
    Not really, as they're aftermarket brake kits, that can be fitted to lots of different cars

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    Re: 4pots

    never had any issues with the hi-specs ive got , so much better at stopping in my opinion , and im just using a standard set of volvo pads from local parts place .
    not been on track but on the road they have been awesome tbh braking hard from over 100 mph is no issue and gives me alot more confidence

    maybe the set your m8 had Mart were badly fitted ?? surprised though that you slate them so much when you have never had them on a car of your own

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    Re: 4pots

    Quote Originally Posted by The new Bill J View Post
    Not really, as they're aftermarket brake kits, that can be fitted to lots of different cars
    Ok, fair point. I know the K Sports are fitted to Evo's, 200's, Skyline'ss, 300zx's, 350z's, Impreza's...

    They probably would do a kit for a Renault if you had at least 17's and a good order for the small PCD

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