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    Stiffer & shorter springs for Spax RSX

    As per title does anyone know of any internet sites that would supply me with some stiffer and shorter springs to use on my Spax RSX coilovers??

    Cheers James

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    Re: Stiffer & shorter springs for Spax RSX

    Depends what size they are - if they're 2.25" or 2.5" then either

    Merlin http://www.merlinmotorsport.co.uk/

    or Demon tweeks http://www.demon-tweeks.co.uk/

    will be able to help you out!

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    Re: Stiffer & shorter springs for Spax RSX

    Well I have now got a set of shorter and slightly stiffer springs than the original Spax RSX versions. I spent the last 90mins removing the coilover to which only took about 10mins and the rest of the time was spent trying to undo the coilover main top fecking nut to which I have had no fecking luck undoing on either. Strange really as whom ever put the coilovers on in the first place barely done them up on the lower strut carriers took no effort to undo (I didn't install the coilovers on this 5).

    The nut is a 21mm nut and I unfortunatly do not have a 21mm deep spanner and there is a 9mm spanner placement aswell to keep the shaft still (this is just above the 21 mm lock nut) but for the life of me I have had no success on doing this tonight is there anyone local (henfield coilovers are off the car at presemt) or do you think a local tyre place / garage may be able to help me out?? does anyone have a 21mm deep socket spanner and plenty of muscle to try and remove this for me on both coilovers? I have no muscle to do this unfortunatly ( i have had the flu and still not got all my enegy back or it could just be me getting old now).

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    Re: Stiffer & shorter springs for Spax RSX

    21mm offset ring spanner is your friend James, someone local must have one ?

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    Re: Stiffer & shorter springs for Spax RSX

    Quote Originally Posted by Kris M View Post
    21mm offset ring spanner is your friend James, someone local must have one ?
    Cheers Kris,

    Fingers crossed someone local has got one I can borrow failing that I will try my local Halfords and local tool shop

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    Re: Stiffer & shorter springs for Spax RSX

    Quote Originally Posted by James5 View Post
    Well I have now got a set of shorter and slightly stiffer springs than the original Spax RSX versions. I spent the last 90mins removing the coilover to which only took about 10mins and the rest of the time was spent trying to undo the coilover main top fecking nut to which I have had no fecking luck undoing on either. Strange really as whom ever put the coilovers on in the first place barely done them up on the lower strut carriers took no effort to undo (I didn't install the coilovers on this 5).

    The nut is a 21mm nut and I unfortunatly do not have a 21mm deep spanner and there is a 9mm spanner placement aswell to keep the shaft still (this is just above the 21 mm lock nut) but for the life of me I have had no success on doing this tonight is there anyone local (henfield they are off the car) or do you think a local kwik fit or something may be able to help ?? whom has a 21mm deep socket spanner and plenty of muscle to try and remove this for me on both coilovers? I have no muscle to do this unfortunatly.

    Isnt the large spark plug size 21mm?

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    Re: Stiffer & shorter springs for Spax RSX

    Quote Originally Posted by GanJaMan View Post
    Isnt the large spark plug size 21mm?
    Socket won't work unfortunatly as I then won't be able to get the slots that keep that shaft in place

    I will ask around for a 21mm deep spanner
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    Re: Stiffer & shorter springs for Spax RSX

    Air-gun or an impact driver will get it off.

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    Re: Stiffer & shorter springs for Spax RSX

    Quote Originally Posted by Mart View Post
    Air-gun or an impact driver will get it off.
    But just forcing the nut around rotates the shaft as you can't keep the shaft in place without using the shaft locking slots which are 9mm spanner fitment and thus us located above the main shaft lock nut so this stops me using from any socket or any compressor tools

    I'll get a pic up of what I mean
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    Re: Stiffer & shorter springs for Spax RSX

    If you get stuck I've got a proper Facom spanner here that I used for doing my struts. Its a deep reach 21mm spanner with the side cut out so you can hold the 9mm section.

    Like in the link below, its the side of the rounded section thats cut out if you get my drift.

    http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Facom-10pc-OGV...-/160389358395

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    Re: Stiffer & shorter springs for Spax RSX

    Quote Originally Posted by James5 View Post
    But just forcing the nut around rotates the shaft as you can't keep the shaft in place without using the shaft locking slots which are 9mm spanner fitment and thus us located above the main shaft lock nut so this stops me using from any socket or any compressor tools
    Trust me, an air-gun or impact driver will free the nut as is, without worrying about clamping the 9mm slot.

    I had exactly the same problem with a crusty old set of Avos I once had, but it took all of a few seconds once I slapped an impact driver on the nut.

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    Re: Stiffer & shorter springs for Spax RSX

    Quote Originally Posted by Mart View Post
    Trust me, an air-gun or impact driver will free the nut as is, without worrying about clamping the 9mm slot.

    I had exactly the same problem with a crusty old set of Avos I once had, but it took all of a few seconds once I slapped an impact driver on the nut.
    cheers Mart I will try a local tyre place / garage see if they can help me out
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    Re: Stiffer & shorter springs for Spax RSX

    I will post you my deep ring spanner if need be

    Why are you so far away?...I'd have that all swapped about in the hour

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    Re: Stiffer & shorter springs for Spax RSX

    I've also got an impact gun, want me to post that too

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    Re: Stiffer & shorter springs for Spax RSX

    Cheers for all the help and advice peeps she is back together and on the road again.

    She is slightly lower at the front now and this has levelled the car out perfect I still have 1/2 the coilover adjsutable rod section to use to go lower if I want, think this well be it as had a few probs this morning bumps in roads, potholes, and a few cats eyes on the sidey centre box.
    God knows how spooky manages it

    my main reason for not going lower at the front is that there appears to be only a few mm between the top of my tyre and the lip of the front wing which I suppose I could attack eith a hammer
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    Re: Stiffer & shorter springs for Spax RSX

    what springs did you get? length and rate.

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    Re: Stiffer & shorter springs for Spax RSX

    Quote Originally Posted by Andrew Cooke View Post
    what springs did you get? length and rate.

    The orginal spax rsx springs are 8" open length and 310lbs rated (spax advised me of there spec) the new ones are 6" open length and rated for 380lbs
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    Re: Stiffer & shorter springs for Spax RSX

    Quote Originally Posted by James5 View Post
    The orginal spax rsx springs are 8" open length and 310lbs rated (spax advised me of there spec) the new ones are 6" open length and rated for 380lbs
    do you know what the fitted length is? I'd have thought you'd coilbind those. Does it use the bump rubbers? I'll try and find some numbers

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    Re: Stiffer & shorter springs for Spax RSX

    Hmmm not noticed and lack of movement in the spring when in use as had a spirited drive this morning but I will find out compressed length

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    Re: Stiffer & shorter springs for Spax RSX

    not your springs, but the eibach catalogue will give you an idea

    http://eibach.com/eibach/img/ers-catalog-2004.pdf

    their 6", 2 1/4"dia, 375lb/in spring has 3.44" of travel and is fully compressed with 1290lb, that being 585Kg in new money

    your springs may be completely different..

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    Re: Stiffer & shorter springs for Spax RSX

    Brilliant James

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    Re: Stiffer & shorter springs for Spax RSX

    Got a pic of My Spax RSX with the new springs note the length of the adjustment rod on the Spax and look at the AVO's pic atached. Looks like AVO don't give a **** how low you go (2nd pic are AVO's stolen from Markey B's brothers 5 sorry and thanks for pic) I will try and find a pic of some GAZ to comapre aswell

    Edit GAZ pic found cheers Phil for the pic
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