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    Hid kits

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    awryt guys i am looking to buy a hid kit for my 5 off ebay but am not sure which one is the best to buy i am lookin for the best but not to expesive?.cheers

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    Re: Hid kits

    2 options for the 5

    h4 hi/lo and h4 single

    6000k is a good colour/brightness

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    Re: Hid kits

    I can get a group buy on HID kits very cheapo chips.

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    Re: Hid kits

    how much do they go for these days than ?
    anyone know if they are easy enough to fit etc ?

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    Re: Hid kits

    Quote Originally Posted by Schakal View Post
    how much do they go for these days than ?
    anyone know if they are easy enough to fit etc ?

    i can do it so they gotta be easy. Single beam with slim ballas. h4 single 6000k.

    Right proper quality kits £65 plus postage if i can get enough names together for my order.

    I need 8 names to go ahead.

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    Re: Hid kits

    are they not illegal to put in r5 headlights???

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    Re: Hid kits

    Quote Originally Posted by HULK View Post
    are they not illegal to put in r5 headlights???

    Yes.

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    Re: Hid kits

    why bother then??

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    Re: Hid kits

    Quote Originally Posted by HULK View Post
    why bother then??

    Coz its cool.

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    Re: Hid kits

    because its illegal but no one gets in trouble for them, its more construction and use than blatantly illegal (e.g having blue sidelights etc)

    once you've driven with HID's at night, you will realise why they are superior

    i dont own a car without them now, in fact even my missus has them on her KA!

    set up properly they wont dazzle other road users either

    you can get cheap sets off ebay for about £35 delivered although they take a week or two to arrive, but i havn't had a problem with them yet

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    Re: Hid kits

    It is NOT illegal!!!!!!!!!! It is only illegal if they dazzle oncoming vehicles i.e. poorly adjusted/installed

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    Re: Hid kits

    i thought it was illegal due to the older type headlight design
    where the glass dictates the direction of light etc ?
    newer vehicles installed with these seem to have diamond cut
    glass on the headlight .

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    Installation MAY be an issue, i dont know. They are only illegal if they are dazzling oncoming traffic OR they do not produce the correct pattern at the MOT station

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    Re: Hid kits

    Quote Originally Posted by Schakal View Post
    i thought it was illegal due to the older type headlight design
    where the glass dictates the direction of light etc ?
    newer vehicles installed with these seem to have diamond cut
    glass on the headlight .
    yep your spot on. You have to have a projector style headlight for it to be legal

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    Re: Hid kits

    Quote Originally Posted by HULK View Post
    yep your spot on. You have to have a projector style headlight for it to be legal

    how about getting the glasses out and getting them diamond cut ?
    (dont even know if thats possible btw )
    even then would you not need some sort of mechanism on the bulb
    holder to allow change of beam direction ?

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    Re: Hid kits

    You also need headlight washers, apparently...

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    Re: Hid kits

    i have the 6000 kit from justhid.co.uk,there bright but kinda a mare to set up,i have the adjusters wound to the max an they are still to hi,have only just dipped the lamp units but have not tested yet,anyway i have noticed the minis and some bmw's are brighter and seem to dazzle way more than my cheapo kit...same goes for other makes out there.

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    Re: Hid kits

    i run 8000kw hid kits in my 5 and golf both go threw the mot fine

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    Quote Originally Posted by minty83 View Post
    i run 8000kw hid kits in my 5 and golf both go threw the mot fine
    That doesn't make them legal. An MOT is not a legality test :ho:

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    Re: Hid kits

    Quote Originally Posted by The new Bill J View Post
    That doesn't make them legal. An MOT is not a legality test :ho:
    Thank god. your right though, without washers and without self levelling headlights these are Illegal.

    I just dont care.

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    Re: Hid kits

    Quote Originally Posted by Chris Hebden View Post
    It is NOT illegal!!!!!!!!!! It is only illegal if they dazzle oncoming vehicles i.e. poorly adjusted/installed
    for xenon (hid) lights to be legal, you need automatic leveling and a means of cleaning the headlamp lense, eg washers or wipers

    if it doesn't have both, then they dont conform to construction and use regs.. eg. the law

    all the mot worries about is if they have a beam pattern, mine have a beam pattern even with old lenses

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    Re: Hid kits

    The ministry of transport said retrofitting HID lamps into a non-HID headlight housing is illegal.

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    Re: Hid kits

    Quote Originally Posted by The new Bill J View Post
    You also need headlight washers
    At last, someone in possession of an actual fact.

    According to Regal Bulbs, who give the RTOC a discount,

    • The glass HAS to be E marked with the number: ECA98

    • And there HAS to be a self levelling system attached to the headlight so that if passengers get in, the beam height adjusts to the correct position.

    • Most MOT inspectors don't know they are illegal and they usually pass the MOT, provided they are correctly adjusted.

    The 35 Watter equates to about 150 Watts of Halogen.

    They are not all projection lamps, mostly not I'd guess.

    The £35 ones come direct from China. But people do say they are generally OK. They are about £60 from UK sellers and up to about £300 for not much difference.

    There are 35 Watt and 55 Watt versions.

    Colour temperature starts at 4300°Kelvin. That's a bit whiter than normal halogens and gives out more light than 6000°K or higher for the same Wattage.

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    Re: Hid kits

    I'm in for some!

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    Re: Hid kits

    Quote Originally Posted by Kenobi View Post
    i can do it so they gotta be easy. Single beam with slim ballas. h4 single 6000k.

    Right proper quality kits £65 plus postage if i can get enough names together for my order.
    On eBay I found a vendor selling H4 Bi-Xenon 35 Watt near me for £60 per pair. I think I'd prefer the 4300°K for maximum light output.

    I bought the 80% brighter Philips Vision H4 bulbs instead from Regal Bulbs. Just under £20. According to the Auto express test, brighter than the 90% ones from the other company that I forget the name of. They are brighter, but less 'white' that the 50% brighter one I had.

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    Re: Hid kits

    Buy them from me!!!

    Put names down.

    1. Kenobi

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    Re: Hid kits

    so what are the bulbs/kit needed for the r5 gt as there are a few h4 sets out there for sale which are:

    h4 kit 3000k-12000k
    hb4 hid kit 3000k-12000k
    h4h hid kit 3000k-12000k

    also is it possible to fit them into the fogs are they h2 bulbs???

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    Re: Hid kits

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    kenobi.does the ones you get come with instructions etc as a have no idea how to fit them,also what power there they.

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