Door hinges

[BriC]

OK, so I have my car back from SBS, and it's time to rebuild it. I have a problem though.. the doors are dropped, and I know it isn't the pins, because before I got it painted, I tried new pins, and the doors were still just as dropped. So, I think my hinges are ovalled.

I've done a search, and people seem to either be saying, drill them out to 8mm and fit 8mm roll pins.. OR I could drill the hinges out and fit the Torx type mechanisms that were found on later GTT's. Which is a better system? I'm guessing the torx as it was brought in at a later date - probably a better, revised system?

On a more extreme note, do you think you could remove the o.e hinges and then find stronger / better designed hinges off a more modern car and replace them all together? Obviously, you'd need to be handy with a welder.

I just don't want to drill them out, etc, and then 12 months down the line, them to be just as bad as they were! So yeh.. What do people find is the best way to sort out this problem?

[raj]

wasnt there also some sort of sleeving of the hinge pins method that could be done.? im sure a few members have done this.?

[Kempy]

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I drilled mine out to 8mm, and fitted some vauxhall pins, it worked an absolute treat. I dont think you would ever line the door up propely if you fitted new hinges. Oh and remember the age of the car, those hinges should be good for a long while to come, just grease them up every now and then.

[BriC]

I was thinking something similar Raj.. That way, you wouldn't be damaging the actual hinge, just a removable sleeve?

[raj]

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I drilled mine out to 8mm, and fitted some vauxhall pins, it worked an absolute treat. I dont think you would ever line the door up propely if you fitted new hinges. Oh and remember the age of the car, those hinges should be good for a long while to come, just grease them up every now and then.

which vauxhall pins mate.? are they for a certain model or are they all the same.?

[raj]

I was thinking something similar Raj.. That way, you wouldn't be damaging the actual hinge, just a removable sleeve?

i suppose it wouldnt be to hard to get something like this made.? its like a sock for the door pins isnt it. i would have thought you may have to drill the hinge a little??

[Kempy]

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As my memory serves they are all very simullar. Cant remeber the car at the time, but they were the same as my ol' mans corsa, which was a 52 plate i think. I the idea from one of the threads on the old site. Iread through so many till finally choosing that route.

[BriC]

Yeh, if you drilled the hinge to 8mm, then fitted a 1mm sleeve and o.e 7mm pins (I think o.e pins are 7mm)?

It would need to be 4 sleeves though, right? One for the top and one for the bottom of the hinge on the door and one for the top and the bottom of the hinge on the car body

[Kempy]

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Yeh, if you drilled the hinge to 8mm, then fitted a 1mm sleeve and o.e 7mm pins (I think o.e pins are 7mm)?

It would need to be 4 sleeves though, right? One for the top and one for the bottom of the hinge on the door and one for the top and the bottom of the hinge on the car body

3 for each side, 1 top and bottom, 1 in the middle.

[BriC]

Yeh, that would work also.

It seems similar to the torx mechanism (see here: http://www.cgbmotorsport.net/door-hi...pair-584-p.asp) but I don't quite understand that, because it only has 2 inserts. Could anyone explain how these work?

[Kempy]

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Yeh, that would work also.

It seems similar to the torx mechanism (see here: http://www.cgbmotorsport.net/door-hi...pair-584-p.asp) but I don't quite understand that, because it only has 2 inserts. Could anyone explain how these work?

looking at that, if the middle hinge has worn, as mine did slightly, you would still get play in the door i would of thought?

[Sparkie]

Yeh, that would work also.

It seems similar to the torx mechanism (see here: http://www.cgbmotorsport.net/door-hi...pair-584-p.asp) but I don't quite understand that, because it only has 2 inserts. Could anyone explain how these work?

it the middle part of the hinge that gets worn. drill that out, insert the two brass pieces and it takes the hole back down the 7mm. then the new torx bolt should fit with no wobble. (assuming you have the threaded bit on ur hinge already)

[BriC]

I think I'll just drill them to 8mm, fit 8mm roll pins and keep them well greased

[scratcher]

I've been putting off doing this for months. I'm scared of not drilling the hinges out straight. I've been advised that I can try putting in oversized (maybe 7.25/7.5mm?) pins in without needing the drill so I'm giving that a go first.

[RICHIE]

i did mine with daz all went smoothly just keep the drill straight not to hard tbh. mine was so worn that the drill bit took minimal metal out the hole when drilling.

[scratcher]

i did mine with daz all went smoothly just keep the drill straight not to hard tbh. mine was so worn that the drill bit took minimal metal out the hole when drilling.

Come do mine for me

[RICHIE]

Come do mine for me

of course mate no problem

[BriC]

i did mine with daz all went smoothly just keep the drill straight not to hard tbh. mine was so worn that the drill bit took minimal metal out the hole when drilling.

Cool.. Doesn't make me dread it so much

[RICHIE]

if you have access to a compressor silverline do a small 90 degree drilling tool makes light work of it or ebay sell one for about a fiver for battery drills.

[BriC]

Calling all those who drilled the hinge and fitted a new sleeve - where did you buy your sleeves from?

[raj]

Calling all those who drilled the hinge and fitted a new sleeve - where did you buy your sleeves from?

i recall a member making a few batches up.!.?

[tom t]

on my 5 the door pins are the torx type.
ive brought some 2nd hand doors and they have got the roll pins.

am i going to be able to fit these to my 5 with fitting the roll pins? cheers

[BriC]

Anyone else know of anywhere I can get some? I tried googling it, and I can't find anything. The one company I did find said they can't do anything as small as I require.

[Tiny Tim]

Looking on ebay, it looks like CGB do them. COuld you not double them up? - prise one open slightly and use as an outer sleeve.

[ollie91]

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when i fitted new pins to my caar the door still had droped but i got a mate who does panel beating and he just bent the doors up and now the fit fine and gaps are perfect.

[Deano]

Its just the middle hinge that needs sleeving cos thats where the movement is,
If anyone can measure the centre hinge, top to bottom , i've got some 8MM bar here that i'll dril out.
first one to tell me centre hinge size gets a set F.O.C

[BriC]

Can you drill it to fit a 7mm hinge? That would be exactly what I need.

[Deano]

you'll need smaller pins if i make 7MM OD sleeves !
If i make the sleeves 7MM od the inside diameter will be 6MM so your pins won't fit,
you'll have to drill out your hinges to 8MM or get smaller dia pins.
Know what i mean ?

[BriC]

Sorry, I didn't mean that. I meant to fit a 7mm roll pin. So 8mm OD and 7mm ID.

[Deano]

Ye thats what i'm gonna make pal, do you have the size for the centre of the hinge ??

[BriC]

No, I'm at work at the moment.

I'll get them for you at the weekend? I go to college near you (I believe, because my mate who goes to the same college tells me he's seen a 5, that matches your 5's description.) in Horwich, so may be able to pick them up after college on a Tuesday?

[Deano]

I'll need the size of the hinge before weekend though boss cos i'm gonna have to make them at work !
Can anyone help with this today ?

Bric, alliance learning ??

[BriC]

Alliance learning?

[Deano]

It's the college round the corner from me !!!
Where do you go mate ?

[BriC]

Bolton Community College mate. You near the Reebok stadium?

[Deano]

I work behind the Barnstormers pub, about 200yd from the Mighty Reebok
I live in bolton if you wanna pick these up at weekend though.

[Tiny Tim]

I work down the road from a Subways

[BriC]

Nobody cares where you work Tim.

Can I pick them up on Tuesday?

[Deano]

Congratulations

[Deano]

Ye pal you can pick them up tue thats fine,
I'll send you my number

[BriC]

Good man. Thanks a lot.

[Deano]

Can anyone help out with the hinge size today ???
I'd prefer to get them made today i've got a bit of spare time !

[Tiny Tim]

Nobody cares where you work Tim.

You do you 'orrible little scrote.

[BriC]

You do you 'orrible little scrote.

[Tiny Tim]

[BriC]

OMFG

[tom t]

what measurements do you need? ive got some doors next to me. if you can explian exactly what you need ill try my best.

or are you talking about on the car?

[raj]

Can anyone help out with the hinge size today ???
I'd prefer to get them made today i've got a bit of spare time !

pm 4u

[Deano]

I need the middle part of the hinge measuring !
There are two parts on the door (top an bottom) and the middle part on the car,
Measure the height of that for me fella.

What you using to measure ??

RAJ = WINNER !!!!

[Deano]

If anyone wants a set of these making i'll do them for a fiver posted,
Put your name down or PM me and i'll get some done once i know they fit perfect.