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    T28 source?

    Looking to get a bigger blower as my tomcat may well be dead after another couple k of boosting. Where's a good place to buy a turbo and what specs exactly do I need/want. Cheers amigos.

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    Re: T28 source?

    The turbo that Turbo Ted mentions in this thread seems to be the ideal blower for a well speced c1j

    https://www.rtoc.org/boards/showthread.php?t=30148

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    Re: T28 source?

    yer but heard your talking close to 1k for that sort of turbo

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    Re: T28 source?

    Might be a grand but I want something big time lethal. My tomcat struggles around 20 psi.

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    Re: T28 source?

    That is a lot of dosh for a blower, well out of my league anyways

    However, really the power you can reliably extract from a c1j will always be relative to the fatness of ones wallet it can be done on the cheap but to do it properly you have to splash the cash in one way or another. Josh, your lump would make some good power with said blower, that's for sure your valve collets might not be to keen tho

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    Re: T28 source?

    Quote Originally Posted by gttjames View Post
    yer but heard your talking close to 1k for that sort of turbo
    close to 1k supply your own t2 core and exhaust housing £750 tops

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    Re: T28 source?

    Just use a gt 28 r

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    Re: T28 source?

    I rebuilt James s engine this year and with a gt28 made 206bhp and 202 lbft at 18 psi of boost was only limited because of group a carb with standard carb rejeted and second stage etc would of made 225bhp at 22psi

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    Re: T28 source?

    Quote Originally Posted by turbo ted View Post
    close to 1k supply your own t2 core and exhaust housing £750 tops
    yes ted after reading your recomendations on turbo's i searched it up and prices people where telling me where close to 1k

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    Re: T28 source?

    I bought a damaged one and rebuilt it of here or ebay front wheel was the 60 trim one

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    Re: T28 source?

    Quote Originally Posted by gttjames View Post
    yes ted after reading your recomendations on turbo's i searched it up and prices people where telling me where close to 1k
    I'm a glass half full kinda guy, when you say £750 I think feck me, that's almost a grand...

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    Re: T28 source?

    Quote Originally Posted by dangerous dave View Post
    I'm a glass half full kinda guy, when you say £750 I think feck me, that's almost a grand...
    haha

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    Re: T28 source?

    New price on gr28r is £700 to me roller bearing very good turbo

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    Re: T28 source?

    Quote Originally Posted by Hi 5 View Post
    New price on gr28r is £700 to me roller bearing very good turbo
    What bhp can be achieved on one of these glen and when are they on full boost mate

    Cheers mate
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    Re: T28 source?

    I made 300 bhp at 36 psi boost with out gas

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    Re: T28 source?

    Quote Originally Posted by Hi 5 View Post
    I made 300 bhp at 36 psi boost with out gas
    Just to save confusion that was with a 28r. I think it hit full boost around 4600rpm or there abouts. The later gt30 was doing another 50hp with 43psi but maybe another 700rpm of lag.

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    Re: T28 source?

    Quote Originally Posted by Scoff View Post
    Just to save confusion that was with a 28r. I think it hit full boost around 4600rpm or there abouts. The later gt30 was doing another 50hp with 43psi but maybe another 700rpm of lag.
    Thanks god

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    Re: T28 source?

    Would you know what size the compressor and turbine wheels are by any chance

    Cheers
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    Re: T28 source?

    Just search for gt28r. It comes standard on a nissan s15

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    Re: T28 source?

    Quote Originally Posted by philr5t View Post
    Would you know what size the compressor and turbine wheels are by any chance

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    Just for you. Turbo Compressor Turbine
    Turbo PN CHRA PN Ind Whl Dia(mm) Exd Whl Dia(mm) Trim A/R Whl Dia(mm) Trim A/R
    707160-7 446179-54 44.60 60.10 55 0.42 53.90 62 0.64

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    Re: T28 source?

    Sorry, not just a gt28r. This one has a .42 comp cover for smaller displacement engines.

    To clear some out: 53,9 exhaust and 60,10 inlet.
    Looks a bit goofy to read.(although i'm confused now too)

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    Re: T28 source?

    Quote Originally Posted by Hi 5 View Post
    Just for you. Turbo Compressor Turbine
    Turbo PN CHRA PN Ind Whl Dia(mm) Exd Whl Dia(mm) Trim A/R Whl Dia(mm) Trim A/R
    707160-7 446179-54 44.60 60.10 55 0.42 53.90 62 0.64
    F**k me looking at that lot I wish I'd never asked

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    Re: T28 source?

    Quote Originally Posted by Tutuur View Post
    Sorry, not just a gt28r. This one has a .42 comp cover for smaller displacement engines.

    To clear some out: 53,9 exhaust and 60,10 inlet.
    Looks a bit goofy to read.(although i'm confused now too)
    Go on turbobygarrett web. http://www.turbobygarrett.com/turbob...t/turbocharger

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    Re: T28 source?

    What kind of rpm will I hit full boost on a carb set up with this blower??

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    Re: T28 source?

    As scoff said 4700 but that was a .82 exh housing so .64 would be sooner

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    Re: T28 source?

    I bought my gt28r from the bay thought I'd take the chance for £100. Fitted the turbo to another car last weekend and.... Boosts luvly with no smoke can't wait to fit it to mine

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    Re: T28 source?

    Quote Originally Posted by Hi 5 View Post
    As scoff said 4700 but that was a .82 exh housing so .64 would be sooner
    and could you go even smaller exhaust housing for less lag?

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    Re: T28 source?

    There is a .49 rear housing, not sure who sells it though.

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    Re: T28 source?

    Quote Originally Posted by gttjames View Post
    and could you go even smaller exhaust housing for less lag?
    Yes you can go for a 47 or a 49AR it should give you full boost around the 3000 to 3500rpm mark. The turbo I'm using now is a t28 front with a t2 rear, pro's are no lag, con's are runs out of puff top end.
    Last edited by soapymech; 13-12-2012 at 11:14.

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    Cheers homies. Brigsy you can get a .49 but I think some machine work has to be done...

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    Re: T28 source?

    Quote Originally Posted by Brigsy View Post
    There is a .49 rear housing, not sure who sells it though.
    Yes you can but would not make as much power josh is thinking long term efi 300 hp no chance with a .49But what do I know am only a painter

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    Re: T28 source?

    Quote Originally Posted by Tutuur View Post
    Sorry, not just a gt28r. This one has a .42 comp cover for smaller displacement engines.

    To clear some out: 53,9 exhaust and 60,10 inlet.
    Looks a bit goofy to read.(although i'm confused now too)
    The T28's that the tuners sold usually came with 0.42 cover, as you say, a bit better suited for smaller engines. The GT28R is 0.60. It'll work quite well with a C1J that can breath but if the engine is not that good then it might surge. I've seen 0.60's surge then swapping to 0.42 cures it.

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    Re: T28 source?

    Quote Originally Posted by Scoff View Post
    The T28's that the tuners sold usually came with 0.42 cover, as you say, a bit better suited for smaller engines. The GT28R is 0.60. It'll work quite well with a C1J that can breath but if the engine is not that good then it might surge. I've seen 0.60's surge then swapping to 0.42 cures it.

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    Re: T28 source?

    Boost surge isn't going to be a problem at 20 psi... I hope. In the future I hope to be going efi. Wastegate etc. just time. Turbo is a good starting point while I have the dosh!

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    Quote Originally Posted by GT Josh View Post
    Boost surge isn't going to be a problem at 20 psi... I hope. In the future I hope to be going efi. Wastegate etc. just time. Turbo is a good starting point while I have the dosh!
    Yeah shouldn't be. Going back a few years when I had a C1J I could run a standard BP285 with a 60trim front end with 0.60ar and it would surge pretty bad at 25psi, enough to make the boost gauge wobble at WOT. Swapping it for an 0.42 from a 4x4 cosworth fixed it. I dare say the cosworth cover will bolt right up to the GT28R if it came to it

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    Re: T28 source?

    Sound mate. Should be back over in the new year for fueling etc to be sorted with all the new toys.

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    Re: T28 source?

    like I have said, whatever blower you choose it's going to be a compromise one way or another, I think going for a t2/t3 hybrid like turbo Ted had on his c1j is the best of both worlds.

    however the 28rs will work well and give you the figures your after and we know your motor breaths very very well and continues to make power after 7k, and also your not shy at giving those kind of revs either looking at the state of the valve stem seals I would have said so anyways

    maybe try it with the larger a/r at first and of your not keen then look for a .49.

    brigsy, how would you rate the 28rs against your old 60trim t28?

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    Re: T28 source?

    Quote Originally Posted by Hi 5 View Post
    Yes you can but would not make as much power josh is thinking long term efi 300 hp no chance with a .49But what do I know am only a painter

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