Djs 200sx /s14a

[djinuk]

Hi guys, not new to building car projects albeit it the others are usually on larger budgets and invole lots of paint polish and expensive parts, where as this one is designed to be more function over form , so i have a car i can park in rough areas without worrying about to much, although ive never really had a play at all going sideways, i wanted a cheap winter motor , and stumbled across a cheap s14a with tax and test, it has 3 rusty arches and isnt exactly pretty, but its 100% standard, unlike most of them which often seemed butchered , which isnt a problem but generally the quality of the work sucked.

Anyway, another problem this was had was a boost leak, a big one.. as such i me and chidley on here fitted a front mount last night which seems to have solved the problem, the standard wing mount intercooler feel apart as i tried to unbolt it.

One question is, its of my understanding the bost solenoid that sits on the passenger side wing detects for knock , and also ups the standard wastegate boost up to 10psi from 7. I wasnt 100% how to re input this into the circuit after we did away with the carbon canister etc during the front mount install. Does it just sit inline between the turbo actuator and the cold side of the intercooler ?. and if so which outlet goes to which.

Standard before we begin


the blurred remains of the standard intercooler




and front mounted with 24hrs of purchasing the car


Continued in my quest to make sure the base motor is healthy , and gave it frehs oil and filter.

Also ordered a oil pressure, temp and boost gauge to keep an eye on things, aswell as a boost controller on its way.


Also fitted a full system to get it breathing a little better, the system was off an s14 so i also had to swap elbows


Also ordered a walbro 255 pump just incase the old one has become weak at all.


now the basics are there ill concenrate on sorting suspension wheels and just using it

[djinuk]

Update

Welded up the diff
Fitted fresh coilovers
Fitted full 3" exhaust & downpipe
Also half way through the boost controller setup, however it began to rain which made is impossible to finish the setup

[Os8472]

Nice motor but I gotta ask why your welding the diff? The 14a should have an LSD as standard, the only time they didn't is when it had an autobox

[Trevhib]

These are such great cars!

I had an S14, I loved it. I can't believe you got it for the winter. That means tail out all the flamin' time, whether you want it or not It was my first RWD car and took me 6months to really learn how to drive it.

Get that Walbro in ASAP, before you get left stranded somewhere

Regarding diff, my S14 didn't have an LSD (so fits with what Os says).

Turbo exhaust gasket - make sure you replace that as part of your exhaust work. They are regular culprits for failing.

Great work so far btw. Not sure about that solenoid thing.

[Duncan Grier]

Boost solinoid is controlled by the ecu and will allow boost to rise to 10psi, as far as I am aware nothing to do with knock sensor

Standard setup is - 0.5bar (7psi) 1st and 2nd, 0.7 bar (10psi) 3rd 4th and 5th

Bypass the boost solinoid and 0.9 (13psi) is more than safe with supporting mods which you have

DG

[djinuk]

The lsd's are viscous type, and im building it just to play at pod and birmingham wheels with (drifting). Viscous are fine for the occasional slide but its far better to have a perm welder in when planning to go from one transition to the next etc, Same story with mx5 lsds. Hence the welded in there .

I did away with that boost control valve thing and stuck an apexi avcr on there, great bit of kit, and thanks guys, its not the best shell , but if i bend it ill reshell it into an s13 . I cant wait to get it somewhere nice and open to really play, i need to get better on my throttle control, at the moment its all or nothing, coming from the mx5 that wasnt a problem but in this it really is lol

oh and the pumps fitted :d

fortunatlly my drive to works very short, and its amazingly comfortable, being that im not really to fussed about the bodywork, and keepign on top of the cleaning yada yada its a real nice feeling.. finally car when it goes wrong i can just learn over the wings and bumpers to work on.. really does make things easy.

oh and duncan currently im running 0.85psi, however ocasionly particular in 1st/2nd when loss of traction occurs its swining into 0.92psi territory, think i need to lower the duty slightly in them gears.

[Slammed 66]

ive had a few s14s over the years and even with standard suspension they handle great. Funnily enough all of mine have been emerald green too.

Personally I don't agree with the welded diff, it generally makes them understeer and a pig to drive everyday and not pleasant to drive fast. There are many reasonably priced after market LSD options out there.

If you need them I have a rocker cover which is stripped ready for polishing, spark plug cover, coil packs ad a good starter motor.

Keep this thread updated. I love reading up on 200sx builds without having to head on to sxoc to read crap about body its and skidding all the time

Ros

[Nottswoody]

Dj have you seen r5turborons new one yet? Her came round init today looks nice solid motor Pitty it was raining otherwise he would of taken me out

[djinuk]

ive not seen it in the flesh but ive seen the pics, looks an absolute minter that!.

This things somewhat of a dog, but perfect for what i need, I just wanted somthing cheap as possible but as close to mechanically sound as possible to abuse somewhat, Ive got quite a few cars, but i always put to much time and money into them, and then cant hoon the life outa them, whereas this one is diffrent.

cheers for the offer on parts, but ive already got another 2 engines complete with all the parts as spare lol

[Nottswoody]

I don't think he will be drifting it.. For now but I'm sure the boost an drift bug will get him I think you've done spot on bud you bought the car to drift and that's what they are for.. Get some vids up

[R5TURBORON]

Nice mate I will pop down when your free for a nosey :-)

[djinuk]

had my first session at pod on wednesday.. Was a real good hoot, went with my friend and had a cracking time.

Played in the pens for a little while,Learnt going around in circles and creating smoke is very easy, so then speant the remainder of the day trying to get the kidney right (which was a steep learning curve) but towards the end i was linking the kidney some of the time. Next session i plan a bit more practice on the kidney and then onto the big track.

Car held out fine which i was dead happy with.

Hes my first play on the figure of 8, i managed to sus this one about 3 attempts later

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yIBifz525Kw

[Trevhib]

Ace.

You'll fall for this car I reckon (or S14s I mean). Maybe not until after you've let it go though!

[hickman]

Looks quality dude n s*** load of fun keep Posting vids!!

[J8TRO]

that looks loads of fun

[Tony Walker]

Great video I've got a drift day tomorrow around a circuit at oulton park can't wait, luckily for me its not my car but watching that vid makes me wanna get some rwd

[djinuk]

hehe cheers guys..

Your probably right trev, although not in the same ways as r5's etc.. I appreciate them as a motorsport style car.. but i would never ever want to have a prim and proper one.. i prefer just to spank the arse off it, I see the ones cycling at like 6k in perfect o/e conditin and they do nothing for me.. however slagged up with a drifty kit etc i can rep it

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ugTTC...ature=youtu.be

[Adam L]

I'll be getting another S body in the future. I really miss my S15 but I would never have drifted it. I drove both my 14a and S15 in **** winter months and if you know how to handle a rear wheel drive car, it's fun

[hickman]

What do u think of the Volvo 340's for a cheap drift car seen a few with the Renault engines in on eBay tempted lol

[djinuk]

picked up these last night.. When/If i coem to re-rusting this thing , ill be chucking these grp wings on, gives me an extra +25 mm of clearance for the wheels aswell.. so win win all round.



chucked some fresh plugs in as the old ones looked a little.. ermm decrepid!



Also picked up some subframe locking collars in hope to begin stiffening up everything as currently its all just a bit, 'wishy washy'


Also a couple of pics from Blackett

[djinuk]

Since i bought this car its had very vague steering, mentioned it to a few people. Anyway , decided to chuck a pair of steering rods one, track rods appeared to be in good condition , and i wanted to get a spacer in anyway to grab a bit of cheap extra lock.





Fitted the tein rods with the 6mm spacer, and tracked it up somewhat by eye, and all is nice.. plus an extra tad of lock.. however.. Steering wobble still there.. Had another look , and then i spotted it... both sides of the Steering uj bolts were loose, like finger tight loose. 15 secs with a 12mm spanner had my steering all sorted, quite scary, my guess is that its possibly been removed/replaced and whoever did it never did the bolts up and since then its been held on pretty much by luck.

[chris]

Lucky you kept looking mate would of easy to of missed that how did you get on with that 205 you where doing i enjoyed reading what you where doing

[djinuk]

Its currently at the bodyshop mate, awaiting a fresh coat of white , Although if im honest ive been uming and aring about possibly selling it when done, will break my heart as i love the car, but a potential career change means i could do with freeing up some money, and it dosent do enough for me that the r5 dosent already. Will only let it go for strong money though, hopefully the project thread will help sell it

[chris]

Yea the thread will help but the only trouble is that no one wantsa tidy car i have seen some really nice cars on here that they cant sell but you can sell a nail in no time i guess that poeople cant afford the one big lump summ

[mattk]

This looks like so much fun love it ..... plus couldn't help but notice the RB26 in one of the pictures, that wouldn't be making its way into this would it lol

[djinuk]

Indeed this is true Chris, although my advantage will be the lack of need to sell it quick, so if it takes a year for the right buyer than so be it i guess. Whoever buys it will still be getting a bargain , Very smart and well sorted track car it will be.

It is real good fun, i wont play it down and say im not enjoying it , thats not an rb matey, thats just a crappy ca18 out of an s13

[chris]

Can u tell me how much u wpuld be looking for my mate is mad on them and i know he wants another after xmas

[djinuk]

to be honest its still in for paint at the moment, and theres a few bits i need to finish up, but im going to be putting it up at around 3.5k, with a fresh 12 months.

[djinuk]

Grabbed myself some rocker stoppers, mainly for peice of mind


Fitted an apexi air filter

Small battery and the usual intercooler run as the previous one ran behind my wheel which was fine until hitting full lock.


Treated it to a pair of eagle f1 parts worns on the front to try give myself some grip

Tucking


Rota gtr 17x9.5 et 12 fitted.


Also bashed away the edges of this thing to aid fitted wheels in the car :P

[Andyturbo!]

Loving this dj, looks bad ass! On the rotas, always wanted to try out abit of skidding!

[djinuk]

do it is the only thing i can say dude.. its a great crack

[djinuk]

8th dec dwyb day at pod.

Decided to go down with some mates..

Journey started being followed an evil looking e30..

shay came down for his first drift day in is mx5 and did great




my handy man chucked me on some wheels

which i killed off


Next plan was to hit the big track for the first time, however this was not to happen, my day ended early due to a blown clutch

many many hours later i was recovered.. freezing , and my passenger now snoring his tits off i was left sat listening to the radio


When i was finally home i was shattered.. but unfortunatly i had to stay up till 2 to collect the mrs.. there was only one thing to do.. I decided to pull the engine out as i also had a sump leak to look at.


the next day i had 2 very helpful friends come to help me out




and off came the clutch


ermmm...

The engine is now back in with another clutch and running , im extremely shattered ... goodnight

[g10far]

Thats some dedication there chap! FairPlay, the car looks a right hoot!

[Jonny5]

You're not afraid of getting stuck in are you
Good work mate

[djinuk]

cheers guys, gota get stuck in in life havnt you.. only live once



Friend got a few pics sliding about the skid pan finishing off these tyres... although this is also what finished off the clutch

[Tony Walker]

Is there anything to slap on the tyres to reduce grip and strain on the engine/clutch/transmission/tyres? like oil??? lol

[djinuk]

hehe nah , to be honest you need grip on the rear, else you just spin, nothin worse than a completely crap set of rears, to be honest i think it was just very bad luck that day.. ah well happens

[Nottswoody]

hehe nah , to be honest you need grip on the rear, else you just spin, nothin worse than a completely crap set of rears, to be honest i think it was just very bad luck that day.. ah well happens

Atleast now you have confidence in the fact you've done the clutch bud.. Onwards and upwards or in your case around and around

[djinuk]

quick update.

Fitted a exedy 3 puk paddle clutch, so much nicer to drive now well reccommended


Also chucked some rear subframe spacers on to hopefully stiffen it up a tad


and got it ready for winter as i always do.. I jet wash to the coilovers and some acf 50 spray oil to keep that pesky oil from them.




Also began getting together a set of adjustable arms, im hoping to have full alignment later this year once i have all i need.

[Trevhib]

Can I ask for black tie wrap upgrade for the front bumper fixings, those white ones are hideous

[Big Steve - Raider]

Can I ask for black tie wrap upgrade for the front bumper fixings, those white ones are hideous

I think that part number 77 00 776 395

[chris]

Your like a machine you never stop working on your cars whatever the weather fairplay to you

[djinuk]

haha trev... black cable ties are about 70p a bag more.. me being a pikey poverty spec ****er refuse to pay any more :P

Cheers guys, I just like to crack on with it, when im working on my car im saving money and not destorying fuel therefore i use this theory to convince myself im having a goooood time

[djinuk]

bit of an update.,. my turbo gasket shat itself to replace that with genuine gasket, locking tabs, some aero nuts and soem braided lines



had a drift day.. went ok. was fighting with understeer badly for most of it though.. so got some maxxis maz1's

also got me some diff bushes

and a pretty rad

and rest of my arms .. ( i do have camber arms aswell)

and as this is my daily driver and my speakers were terrible bunged these in


went to pod on 9th however we didnt have tickets so we stopped in a carpark closer to pod for the night




also mr chidley in his thrown together s13 that managed the full day of abuse



had a great day, understeering issues completely gone and felt i improved lots having been pretty much my first time on the big track (speant 40 mins on it last night), the car was brilliant fun to drive

[djinuk]

and a couple in action

[Chunk]

Awesome read! I've got an S14a as well which is currently in bits for a turbo rebuild amongst other things

Quick question - how difficult was it to remove the fuel pump? Apparently mine has been uprated but I want to check it

[djinuk]

dead easy mate, 5 min job tops.. take out rear seat.. 4 bolts cold a cover down, then the fuel pump mount slides onto a clip in the tank, just pull it up and look , ideally you wanta walbro 225.

Id get it sliding personally dude, such a good laugh, and your more than welcome to come with me, pods a great place to learn, just turn up and go, tyres are £10 a pair fitted. Im going on weds 20th

[djinuk]

update, fitted a hydro


went to sanda pod for dwyb

Car ready


my passenger was great company


had a really good day skidding, hitting the top corner and linking it a lot of the time, unfortunatly towards the end of the day i landed myself into a very hard object.
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Credit to delta pixels, ian, and style case for the pics








and the damage







So we chained it and gave it a good pull with the help of my frineds merc which sorted a lot of the damage.






Now im in a dilema of whether to repace the bumper wing, bonnet and light for another 14a setup, or convert to a cheaper s14 front end ... or just maybe replace the light, fit some bonnet pins and frankenstein the thing.

[Brigsy]

Id go for the cheapest option, flog it back together and abuse

[Tony Walker]

Id go for the cheapest option, flog it back together and abuse

looks good enough as is imo, mines a little battle scared from shell island at Oulton... but i use/abuse it everyday so its not meant to be pretty