well guys its with teary eyes that i will be saying buy to you all as it looks like my 5s going to a new home and im moving on to something a bit more newer. plus im moving house. in the past 3 years of membership i can say it been a pleasure being a member on here. so helpful with great advice. many thanks again to you all. and hope to cu all in the near future. ps maybe then i will be driving a turbo2.