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    ive done some mods on the inlet manifold, ove welded it up to fit 2 carbs. i have not yet run it with them on. does any1 know if this can be done? they fit perfect and i have put pipes and throttle on ok but dont want to use it yet.

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    Re: carbs

    Its been done before a few times, don't think its been very successful at all though.

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    Re: carbs

    Quote Originally Posted by Markey Mark (BD) View Post
    Its been done before a few times, don't think its been very successful at all though.
    what types of problems?

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    Re: carbs

    Just trying to get it to work right and fuel right from what i heard/seen, i've known of a few people try it.

    To be honest mate for the hassle your not going to gain much from it, more advantage going EFI than twin carb

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    Re: carbs

    Quote Originally Posted by Markey Mark (BD) View Post
    Just trying to get it to work right and fuel right from what i heard/seen, i've known of a few people try it.

    To be honest mate for the hassle your not going to gain much from it, more advantage going EFI than twin carb
    see how it goes, ive spent loads on it so far so lil more wont hurt want 300bhp min, thank s though buddy

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    Re: carbs

    Quote Originally Posted by d110rkjste View Post
    see how it goes, ive spent loads on it so far so lil more wont hurt want 300bhp min, thank s though buddy
    Just by doing the carbs won't get you 300bhp, you'll need alot more than just fancy bits and of the shelf tuning parts. Takes quite alot of work, development and tuning to get to 300bhp.

    Good luck though mate, as you say see how it goes

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    Re: carbs

    nah, just 100 shot of NOS Mark

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    Quote Originally Posted by 5teve L View Post
    nah, just 100 shot of NOS Mark
    Yeah ok give you that one!

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    Re: carbs

    Two carbs = double the headache to jet Good luck getting 300hp, its not easy with the old c1j.

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    Re: carbs

    one carb is a nightmare never mind two.

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    Re: carbs

    I once toyed with i idea of using a dellorto dhla 44 carb, it has a seprate enrichment circuit for boost and lots of diffrent auxiliary tubes and venturis.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rs250nut View Post
    I once toyed with i idea of using a dellorto dhla 44 carb, it has a seprate enrichment circuit for boost and lots of diffrent auxiliary tubes and venturis.
    Is that the one that was fitted to the Lancia?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Markey Mark (BD) View Post
    Is that the one that was fitted to the Lancia?
    i thought the lancia had a webber twin choke?

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    No it was used on a lotus esprit turbo, its a twin carb like a 45 weber. I did mention it before but got shot down in flames even though the guy who shot me down had never tryed it.

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    Re: carbs

    a ruff spec of what i got an tell me if 300 bhp is in target,

    forged pistons+rods
    steel liners
    piper 300 cam
    stage 3 k tec head
    tubular manifold
    k tec ballistics turbo
    if the 2 carbs work
    side exit
    2 1/2 down pipe
    more but lost the paperwork

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    Re: carbs

    I think the problem you will have is knowing which carb to tune?? i think it'd be easier with a tubular manifold then you could measure egt in 1 and 4 and not have the gasses mixing. Or have seperate lambda sensors. cheapest option probably to do identical adjustments on both but it wouldnt be ideal, carbs never seem to tune the same.

    IMO the effort involved your probably best going efi.
    Last edited by Tony Walker; 12-08-2010 at 23:44.

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    Re: carbs

    Quote Originally Posted by d110rkjste View Post
    a ruff spec of what i got an tell me if 300 bhp is in target,

    forged pistons+rods
    steel liners
    piper 300 cam
    stage 3 k tec head
    tubular manifold
    k tec ballistics turbo
    if the 2 carbs work
    side exit
    2 1/2 down pipe
    more but lost the paperwork
    What does a stage 3 head from K-tec consist of these days? a little work with a die grinder? Whats a ballistics turbo? What tube manifold do you have? the o.e cast one is pretty good. If I were you I would aim for a genuine 230-240 first before you go chasing the magic 300hp. Are you trying to achive this on race fuel?

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    Re: carbs

    Quote Originally Posted by d110rkjste View Post
    a ruff spec of what i got an tell me if 300 bhp is in target,

    forged pistons+rods
    steel liners
    piper 300 cam
    stage 3 k tec head
    tubular manifold
    k tec ballistics turbo
    if the 2 carbs work
    side exit
    2 1/2 down pipe
    more but lost the paperwork
    it's not what you have. it's how it set up. how are you going to watch the fueling? good luck with it bud.

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    Re: carbs

    Quote Originally Posted by rs250nut View Post
    I once toyed with i idea of using a dellorto dhla 44 carb, it has a seprate enrichment circuit for boost and lots of diffrent auxiliary tubes and venturis.

    this sounds like an interesting thing to do if only someone has the skills to get it fit and work. hell if reyland can get a nissan skyline gearbox on his escos then surely this can be done

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    Re: carbs

    Quote Originally Posted by d110rkjste View Post
    a ruff spec of what i got an tell me if 300 bhp is in target,

    forged pistons+rods (dont need them)
    steel liners (dont need them)
    piper 300 cam
    stage 3 k tec head (dont need that)
    tubular manifold (stick with oe)
    k tec ballistics turbo (get adam L to build you one will be lots better)
    if the 2 carbs work (dont need twin carbs)
    side exit
    2 1/2 down pipe
    more but lost the paperwork

    thats my 2 pence worth if you spend your money on a decent turbo getting the fuling right and the cam timmed in you wont need all the rest of that and it will save you £££££££

    depends if you just want to be able to say that your engine has all them bits on

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    Re: carbs

    Quote Originally Posted by IANMM View Post
    thats my 2 pence worth if you spend your money on a decent turbo getting the fuling right and the cam timmed in you wont need all the rest of that and it will save you £££££££

    depends if you just want to be able to say that your engine has all them bits on
    its not that im just buying it to say it really just thought better bit for a little more reliability. also my mate who is a welder by trade has fitted it and got the pipe work accelerator cable etc on seems like it will work messin witt it on the stand working, just see what goes when it goes in. ill prob be at silverstone in it so hope it works

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    Re: carbs

    If you're chasing that kind of (genuine) power you won't have any kind of reliability, trust me!

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