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    South West Regional Rep jesus in the seat of a 5's Avatar
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    mocal madness

    Right , i went to fit an external oil cooler last week to the cup, everythings is on except when i went to fit the bolt into the block that the sandwich plate fits on it was 1m to big when measured on calipers, i tried all combinations as i had the original bolt{reno} and the mini extention bolt...but to no avail, i then thought o.k. ill see what devolps, i then kindly obtained another male to male bolt from luke and guess what , thats too big too?..., i also contacted think automotive and asked them, they then sent me another male to male bolt , of which still doesnt fit..im begining to think it should be a M19 not a M20 which is what i have and still doesnt fit..., i have fitted one on nicole and im sure i justed used a male -female brass bolt that went into the block , the sanwich plate went on and the oil filter went on after.....grrrr , how blimmin hard can it be?, i even started thinking maybe the block had been tap and dyed but i have tried the bolts on two other blocks, please can anyone unscramble my head...cheers , matty..

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    Re: mocal madness

    Quote Originally Posted by jesus in the seat of a 5 View Post
    Right , i went to fit an external oil cooler last week to the cup, everythings is on except when i went to fit the bolt into the block that the sandwich plate fits on it was 1m to big when measured on calipers, i tried all combinations as i had the original bolt{reno} and the mini extention bolt...but to no avail, i then thought o.k. ill see what devolps, i then kindly obtained another male to male bolt from luke and guess what , thats too big too?..., i also contacted think automotive and asked them, they then sent me another male to male bolt , of which still doesnt fit..im begining to think it should be a M19 not a M20 which is what i have and still doesnt fit..., i have fitted one on nicole and im sure i justed used a male -female brass bolt that went into the block , the sanwich plate went on and the oil filter went on after.....grrrr , how blimmin hard can it be?, i even started thinking maybe the block had been tap and dyed but i have tried the bolts on two other blocks, please can anyone unscramble my head...cheers , matty..

    Hey Jesus why not just ask yoiur dad lol

    Are you using the standard sandwhich plate or a Mocal job?

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    Re: mocal madness

    Quote Originally Posted by Os8472 View Post
    Hey Jesus why not just ask yoiur dad lol

    Are you using the standard sandwhich plate or a Mocal job?
    I tried that he getting pissed off now, busy time of year..., Cheers Ol`,im using the mocal jobbie with thermostat.

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    Re: mocal madness

    Quote Originally Posted by jesus in the seat of a 5 View Post
    I tried that he getting pissed off now, busy time of year..., Cheers Ol`,im using the mocal jobbie with thermostat.
    The one with the stat in the side of the plate?

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    Re: mocal madness

    Quote Originally Posted by Os8472 View Post
    The one with the stat in the side of the plate?
    indeed sir ...indeed, this have any relavence or are you just wondering.......

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    Re: mocal madness

    It does, I had one, my advice, file it in the bin and use a factory one with an inline stat, abit more work but it'd be better in the long run.


    Oh and the hole in the centre of the mocal plate is bigger than the hole in the factory plate

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    Re: mocal madness

    Quote Originally Posted by Os8472 View Post
    It does, I had one, my advice, file it in the bin and use a factory one with an inline stat, abit more work but it'd be better in the long run.


    Oh and the hole in the centre of the mocal plate is bigger than the hole in the factory plate
    This much i know buddy but this doesnt help my quest, what size is the bolt , the oe one in diameter that goes into the block?, also what size mocal bolt..in terms of M..err whatever fits in it?...

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    Re: mocal madness

    Quote Originally Posted by jesus in the seat of a 5 View Post
    This much i know buddy but this doesnt help my quest, what size is the bolt , the oe one in diameter that goes into the block?, also what size mocal bolt..in terms of M..err whatever fits in it?...

    Not a clue mate but just sayin if you've got the standard plate still your better off making that work than mocal's piece of ****e that you have cut the engine mount to make fit and has a rep for the stat sticking closed

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    Re: mocal madness

    Quote Originally Posted by Os8472 View Post
    Not a clue mate but just sayin if you've got the standard plate still your better off making that work than mocal's piece of ****e that you have cut the engine mount to make fit and has a rep for the stat sticking closed
    Fair enough buddy , appreciate Ol` that your the only person to reply thus far , all that work is done etc , i just need the correct bolt buddy...one that fits....

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    Re: mocal madness

    Well I do have my old one, its sat in the bottom of the bin in my garage, fortunatly I touched the 5 for the first time this year yesturday so I haven't emptied it yet.

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    Re: mocal madness

    And as if by magic

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    Re: mocal madness

    Cheers ol`, what diameter is the bolt / s?...mine is 18cm across, sorry i only have a ruler to hand...

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    Re: mocal madness

    Ps , Ol` if your a 100% sure your bolt fits ,your not going to use it etc , why not sell to ole jesus.........

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    Re: mocal madness

    Well these are the sizes, hope they help and I could be persuaded to sell em





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    Re: mocal madness

    Cheers ol, ill pm you my address buddy and we will go from there...

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    Re: mocal madness

    there are two different sizes of holes in the block. definately between an r5 and a r11 block, maybe the ph1 to ph2 block too.

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    Re: mocal madness

    Quote Originally Posted by Sparkie View Post
    there are two different sizes of holes in the block. definately between an r5 and a r11 block, maybe the ph1 to ph2 block too.
    cheers buddy , im calling thinkautomotive again tommorow, i will get to the bottom of this....

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    Re: mocal madness

    Quote Originally Posted by Sparkie View Post
    there are two different sizes of holes in the block. definately between an r5 and a r11 block, maybe the ph1 to ph2 block too.
    I've used that bolt on 2 different blocks, 1 was a ph1 the other a ph2 and it fitted perfectly

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    Re: mocal madness

    Quote Originally Posted by Os8472 View Post
    I've used that bolt on 2 different blocks, 1 was a ph1 the other a ph2 and it fitted perfectly
    come on then Ol, im desperate....

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    Re: mocal madness

    I had the same problem and I had a custom one machined.

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