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    Steel Rods C1J

    What the hell, i am gonna go for it, where's the best place for steel rods, the only ones i can track down are PEC at 475?

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    Re: Steel Rods C1J

    I got mine for Jacquemin tuning, but they were a lot more than that, but less than fardon wanted for a custom set

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    Re: Steel Rods C1J

    prima racing offer afew sets might b worth a look!

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    Re: Steel Rods C1J


    Pretty sure those don't fit properly without machining....

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    Re: Steel Rods C1J

    i have cunningham rod's but they are not cheap

    http://www.cunninghamrods.com/index.html

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    Re: Steel Rods C1J

    A lot of the big power zetec and y.b people use arrow, dont know if they do anything for the humble c1j, might be worth a look.

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    Re: Steel Rods C1J

    I take it steel rods are a requirement for big power engines? if so what kind of power level would we be talking?

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    Re: Steel Rods C1J

    Quote Originally Posted by tiff_lee View Post
    I take it steel rods are a requirement for big power engines? if so what kind of power level would we be talking?
    don't worry about it until you get well over 300hp

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    Re: Steel Rods C1J

    Blimey you can squeeze that out of a c1j lump, nice

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    Re: Steel Rods C1J

    Quote Originally Posted by tiff_lee View Post
    Blimey you can squeeze that out of a c1j lump, nice
    no, you won't get anywhere near that

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    Re: Steel Rods C1J

    lol oh so they are a pretty pointless purchase then? just for bragging rights or piece of mind?

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    Re: Steel Rods C1J

    No just for people that spend a shed load of time, blood, tears, sweat & money getting thier 5's to hit low 11 sec quarters
    Lots of tuning & a bit of NOS.... not for the novice tuner

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    Re: Steel Rods C1J

    Quote Originally Posted by Andrew Cooke View Post
    no, you won't get anywhere near that
    stuart clarke?

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    Re: Steel Rods C1J

    Quote Originally Posted by markey b View Post
    stuart clarke?
    His name's not Stuart Clark is it?

    I think the key word in Andy's sentence was the "you" (meaning no disrespect to Tiff)

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    Re: Steel Rods C1J

    i got mine from wossner they were a freebe in the end after i argued that they had there measurments wrong they were around the 700 quid mark

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    Re: Steel Rods C1J

    Quote Originally Posted by RICHIE View Post
    i got mine from wossner they were a freebe in the end after i argued that they had there measurments wrong they were around the 700 quid mark


    Sounds like alot of cash to me, pec do a piston and rod deal for 900 notes

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    Re: Steel Rods C1J

    Quote Originally Posted by rs250nut View Post
    Sounds like alot of cash to me, pec do a piston and rod deal for 900 notes

    has anyone run the pec pistons yet im sure mart ran je pistons i know wossners have been used also what about accralite

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    Re: Steel Rods C1J

    Quote Originally Posted by RICHIE View Post
    has anyone run the pec pistons yet im sure mart ran je pistons i know wossners have been used also what about accralite
    The pistons from pec are wossners.

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    Re: Steel Rods C1J

    Quote Originally Posted by The new Bill J View Post

    I think the key word in Andy's sentence was the "you" (meaning no disrespect to Tiff)
    Eh, so what he meant I couldnt get 300bhp? I'm not trying to road legal would be a nice start I was merely asking questions based on what has been said.

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    Re: Steel Rods C1J

    Quote Originally Posted by tiff_lee View Post
    Eh, so what he meant I couldnt get 300bhp?
    I don't know that for certain, you'll have to check with Andy. As I said though, I wasn't trying to offend with what I said.

    The thing is, despite what the tuners tell you, there are very, very few 5's out there with over a genuine 300bhp. Stuart Clark has spent a lot of time (read years), money, trial and error, and it's cost him blood, sweat and tears, to get to where he's got with his engine/car. He's at a level that very few will ever get to!

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    Re: Steel Rods C1J

    Well I'll add my two pence worth. I run Wossner rods and pistons. Seem ok, well not had any issues yet! I'll report back when I up the gas. But then I never had any issue's with standard one's either, although never used the gas on them.

    O and some machining work is required to fit the wossner rods.

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    Re: Steel Rods C1J

    Quote Originally Posted by Dave Reed View Post
    Well I'll add my two pence worth. I run Wossner rods and pistons. Seem ok, well not had any issues yet! I'll report back when I up the gas. But then I never had any issue's with standard one's either, although never used the gas on them.

    O and some machining work is required to fit the wossner rods.
    not anymore they have changed it since there last catalogue they had the bearing sizes wrong so they were a to tight and locked the crank so i got the literature from 3 other websites and various bearing suppliers they sent me the deatils i forwarded them to wossner who send me new rods and said i could keep the old which i had machined and sold on.

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    Re: Steel Rods C1J

    Quote Originally Posted by The new Bill J View Post
    I don't know that for certain, you'll have to check with Andy. As I said though, I wasn't trying to offend with what I said.

    The thing is, despite what the tuners tell you, there are very, very few 5's out there with over a genuine 300bhp. Stuart Clark has spent a lot of time (read years), money, trial and error, and it's cost him blood, sweat and tears, to get to where he's got with his engine/car. He's at a level that very few will ever get to!
    None taken mate, you pretty much covered everything there I wanted to know

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    Re: Steel Rods C1J

    Blah.... Cheap Chinese parts FTW.......

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    Re: Steel Rods C1J

    Quote Originally Posted by Rob@Backyardracing View Post
    Blah.... Cheap Chinese parts FTW.......

    The only problem with these is that they come packed in rice!! lol

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    Re: Steel Rods C1J

    i got a deal with woosner £650 for steel rods and forged pistons the rods were £150 but only if you purchase them with the pistons

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    Re: Steel Rods C1J

    Has anyone actually exploited the limits of the o.e rods yet?

    They're pretty bulletproof as is in fairness.

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    Re: Steel Rods C1J

    Quote Originally Posted by Mart View Post
    Has anyone actually exploited the limits of the o.e rods yet?

    They're pretty bulletproof as is in fairness.
    Stuart has bent a few of his.

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    Re: Steel Rods C1J

    Quote Originally Posted by Scoff View Post
    Stuart has bent a few of his.
    Bent no1 and no4, I am going to try a few different ideas but would like a bit more peace of mind that the steel rods would hopefully give. It would seem that PEC are the best option in the uk, would you all agree?? Its either those or stick with OE rods..........

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    Re: Steel Rods C1J

    as previously said I run them and they haven't given me no trouble, yet lol.

    Do you know why you bent your rods?

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