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    Raider is reborn

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    I picked up a Raider couple of weeks ago after Marky Mark (BD) finaly talked me in to turning the clock back 12 years.

    Its in abit of a sorry state as its been sitting (not so pritty) since 2004.

    Its had a small front ender and some bad engine work !!!!!!!!!

    I desided to take off the head as i was told the head gasket had gone and by god i was glade i did as the haed bolts where ,for want of a better word, undone and number 4 piston and liner buggered.!

    So far Mike at http://www.gt-turbo-spares.co.uk/ has been a great help finding the bits i need so im nearly all there.

    I was planing to keep the car fully standard but again after seeing Marky Marks car day in and day out whilst working on other things a view little upgrades are coming through.

    There are some pics on my profile page of how bad it is, i will update them going forward. And as for now time to get craking!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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    if you replace the bonnet for any reason, ie lovered vents, what have you, id be highly intrested in the bonnet,


    well get the pics up me wanna see

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    Quote Originally Posted by R5GTTRaider View Post
    if you replace the bonnet for any reason, ie lovered vents, what have you, id be highly intrested in the bonnet,


    well get the pics up me wanna see
    the bonnet on the car was dented to hell and had a cheap vent stuck on so its been replaced with a standard one which i have just had sprayed!
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    one in the 3rd picture?, ill still have it, if you havent chucked it

    and looks nice, i realy need a repaint....

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    Quote Originally Posted by R5GTTRaider View Post
    one in the 3rd picture?, ill still have it, if you havent chucked it

    and looks nice, i realy need a repaint....
    im affaid its gone to the scrap as it was to far gone!

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    After the mini is done mate we'll get the engine done, i'll be doing mine too so may as well do both at the same time

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    Re: Raider is reborn

    looks tidy enough mate, well done for saving it

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    Loving Raiders, gotta keep the old skool rims on too

    I wanna 5

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    Re: Raider is reborn

    I know pictures have a habit of polishing turds, but that doesn't look half bad! At least your saving it mate, so well done unlike most on here who either break the cars to make money or aint got the talent/money to keep the five alive!

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    Dumb question but what engine was in the raiders ? some one once told me that it was a 1.7 ? this true ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by TURBO'D CLIO View Post
    Dumb question but what engine was in the raiders ? some one once told me that it was a 1.7 ? this true ?
    FAIL!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by TURBO'D CLIO View Post
    Dumb question but what engine was in the raiders ? some one once told me that it was a 1.7 ? this true ?

    Its the normal 1.4 mate that i have in mine.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MATT C Ringworm Tuning View Post
    I know pictures have a habit of polishing turds, but that doesn't look half bad! At least your saving it mate, so well done unlike most on here who either break the cars to make money or aint got the talent/money to keep the five alive!
    Cheers mate, but your right about the turds, when all holes are gone and its been painted then they wont lie !!!!| As for the money side, well visa's are always handy !!

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    Quote Originally Posted by minty83 View Post
    FAIL!!
    Unhelpful.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TURBO'D CLIO View Post
    Dumb question but what engine was in the raiders ? some one once told me that it was a 1.7 ? this true ?
    Not that i know much about these Raiders or anything...

    The Raider model is basically what Renault UK decided to brand the final run out of fives that they were bashing out to celebrate the Group N Rallying Success of Alain Orieille in France.

    Therefore in France the Raider is called the Alain Oreille and in Germany it's called the GTE (but also fitted with a normally aspirated 1.7 motor with no turbo)

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    Quote Originally Posted by minty83 View Post
    FAIL!!
    That wern't very nice, not all of us no every thing mate

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    Quote Originally Posted by Big Steve - Raider View Post
    Not that i know much about these Raiders or anything...

    The Raider model is basically what Renault UK decided to brand the final run out of fives that they were bashing out to celebrate the Group N Rallying Success of Alain Orieille in France.

    Therefore in France the Raider is called the Alain Oreille and in Germany it's called the GTE (but also fitted with a normally aspirated 1.7 motor with no turbo)

    I bet there hard to come by! interesting to know though.

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    Re: Raider is reborn

    A quick update,

    the engine is now out and inbits at markey marks waiting for him to pull out his finger to rebuild as payment for welding up the mini project, now just waiting for the last of the bodys parts and wish bones from CGB and she's going back together.

    The only one real main stoper now is finding a seat to replace the drivers seat, oh yeah and some good weather would help !!!

    If anyone knows the where abouts of a front raider seat please can you let me know.

    cheers

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    Re: Raider is reborn

    they do replacement bottom bit, there is a guy in Cambridge, he has a raider thats had a side impact, you may find the front seat is there still

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    Quote Originally Posted by hydrotec78 View Post

    the engine is now out and inbits at markey marks waiting for him to pull out his finger to rebuild as payment for welding up the mini project

    cheers
    You cheeky git!!! Have you know that mini has been hard work doing it in a month.

    Finger is now out my arse and building it for you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Markey Mark (BD) View Post
    You cheeky git!!! Have you know that mini has been hard work doing it in a month.

    Finger is now out my arse and building it for you.


    Its about time too ! So whens it going in? and dont say when i give you the paint !!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by R5GTTRaider View Post
    they do replacement bottom bit, there is a guy in Cambridge, he has a raider thats had a side impact, you may find the front seat is there still

    do you have any info of how i can get in touch????

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    Re: Raider is reborn

    I've got some of the "rocking horse crap", that is a Raider front seat. It's a passenger seat, but it's a front seat none the less

    The bolsters are saggy, but they can be replaced pretty easily/cheaply, if you're a perfectionist. The bolster material's not ripped or worn though, which has got to be pretty rare. There's a tiny tear in one of the upright bolsters, but it would be a very easy repair.

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    Common those seats are. I had 4 passengers seats at one time. Still got one left to go, small catches on bottom bolster but rest of seat is good.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bigfoot View Post
    Common those seats are. I had 4 passengers seats at one time. Still got one left to go, small catches on bottom bolster but rest of seat is good.
    Oi, find your own buyer


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    Quote Originally Posted by The new Bill J View Post
    Oi, find your own buyer

    how much for the seat then mate?

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    Quote Originally Posted by The new Bill J View Post
    I've got some of the "rocking horse crap", that is a Raider front seat. It's a passenger seat, but it's a front seat none the less

    The bolsters are saggy, but they can be replaced pretty easily/cheaply, if you're a perfectionist. The bolster material's not ripped or worn though, which has got to be pretty rare. There's a tiny tear in one of the upright bolsters, but it would be a very easy repair.
    How much do you want for it mate?

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    Feel free to pm me an offer mate

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    Quote Originally Posted by The new Bill J View Post
    Feel free to pm me an offer mate
    ill give you a genuine "cup" t-bag that rowan atkinson has touched..

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    Quote Originally Posted by jesus in the seat of a 5 View Post
    ill give you a genuine "cup" t-bag that rowan atkinson has touched..
    Oooooh, tempting! How about I swap it for your car?

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    Quote Originally Posted by The new Bill J View Post
    Oooooh, tempting! How about I swap it for your car?
    ill give you a pic with me in it , with my renault overalls on...hair down and in the wind.......

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    Quote Originally Posted by jesus in the seat of a 5 View Post
    ill give you a pic with me in it , with my renault overalls on...hair down and in the wind.......
    How about your Renault thong?

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    Quote Originally Posted by The new Bill J View Post
    How about your Renault thong?
    deal...she`s wearin thin mind....., ..has come early for you bill..

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    Quote Originally Posted by jesus in the seat of a 5 View Post
    deal...she`s wearin thin mind....., ..has come early for you bill..


    Crazy old fool

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    Quote Originally Posted by The new Bill J View Post


    Crazy old fool
    .., soz bill, heatstroke from being in the old trees all day..

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    Re: Raider is reborn

    I havnt been able to spend much time on the raider of the past couple of weeks so not much has really been done until today ! , well this afternoon anyway......

    Today i pulled out the gearbox ready for steaming and painting, then i set off to change the wish bones, oh what fun and joy! why is it that theres always one bolt of of 4 that is on your wifes side ?????

    After the use of my 2 best friends, a hamer and lots of hot air, they were off. i then desided why the bay is clear i cleaned out the past 19 years of dirt, crime and grease/oil. Why the new bones where going in i fitted the new brake lines as it was a shame to leave them in the box !

    Next on the list is to cut out the front damaged panels ready to weld the new ones in, i want to get this done asap as Markey Mark has done my engine for me and its burning a hole in the garden !!!!!

    But for today we have come to a stop, so more will follow as and when.
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    Gear box is ready to rock and roll
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    Well would you believe it, the suns been out and raiders had some more progress ! Happy days

    So what did i get done ! I was going to cut out the front pannel and then thought its was to hot to get out the grinder etc so like a fool i set about sorting out the inside, big mistake, small car lots of heat !!!!!!
    Anyway i striped out all the plastics, rear windows, seat etc as i have some panels which have seen much better days, so these were swaped out with good ones, i even managed to find a drivers sun visor with the flap to cover the mirror. the rear windows have now been fitted with new hindges and locks, no more leaks for me !

    Then there was the wiring to sort out, and drivers window motor, everything but the widow has been sorted / repaired were needed (good old french wiring) the only reason the window motor was not done was that after i striped it out i found that my replacement was for the n/s door in a way im not that bothered as its better than the one i have.

    All there is to do on on the inside now is to sort out the drivers seat and front speakers/covers then were cooking on gas......................
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    Some more pics of the now nice and clean inside
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    Re: Raider is reborn

    Testing the water !!!

    Me and Markey mark have been chatting about my next 5 that im after already before finnishing this one

    Anyway im thinking of building a road leagal track car next, and Mark recons im mad to do this one to sell it and start again, anyway although money wise he has a good point, but on the other hand do i really want to strip out a raider ?

    So as im now not sure what i want to do i thought i would see if anybody is looking for a complet Raider interior all bar the dash? i would also be looking at swaping the rear windows for campus ones so these to would be up for grabs, i have just fitted all new hindges and seals to them.

    Anyway if there is any interest let me know and if i deside to change the build plan i will let you know.

    oh yeah in the pics of the interior it shows the old drivers seat, i now have a replacement one so the interior is now A1 !

    UUM only time will tell.............

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    Quote Originally Posted by hydrotec78 View Post
    Testing the water !!!

    Me and Markey mark have been chatting about my next 5 that im after already before finnishing this one

    Anyway im thinking of building a road leagal track car next, and Mark recons im mad to do this one to sell it and start again, anyway although money wise he has a good point, but on the other hand do i really want to strip out a raider ?

    So as im now not sure what i want to do i thought i would see if anybody is looking for a complet Raider interior all bar the dash? i would also be looking at swaping the rear windows for campus ones so these to would be up for grabs, i have just fitted all new hindges and seals to them.

    Anyway if there is any interest let me know and if i deside to change the build plan i will let you know.

    oh yeah in the pics of the interior it shows the old drivers seat, i now have a replacement one so the interior is now A1 !

    UUM only time will tell.............
    Shame you want a road legal track car, i would of been tempted to swap the cup car.

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    Re: Raider is reborn

    A cup car would be nice but not quite nice enough as i cant drive it down the road !

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    Quote Originally Posted by hydrotec78 View Post
    A cup car would be nice but not quite nice enough as i cant drive it down the road !

    Krisy M is onto the DVLA about getting his road legal... having issue's but once one person does it, you want the other cup boys follow suit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Penfold View Post
    Krisy M is onto the DVLA about getting his road legal... having issue's but once one person does it, you want the other cup boys follow suit.
    Without a chassis number, you're screwed (the last Kris told me anyway). So it's no good for all you lot with Radbourne built cars

    Mine however, being a Renault built coupe, has a chassis number

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    Quote Originally Posted by The new Bill J View Post
    Without a chassis number, you're screwed (the last Kris told me anyway). So it's no good for all you lot with Radbourne built cars

    Mine however, being a Renault built coupe, has a chassis number

    I want to know what happens if you were to use the un-registered shell to reshell a Road legal car...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Penfold View Post
    I want to know what happens if you were to use the un-registered shell to reshell a Road legal car...
    I'm guessing it would depend on whether the shell has a chassis number or not. I believe Kris was told that VOSA's way of thinking is; if the shell has no number, then it wasn't meant to be on the road for some reason, so they won't let it

    I didn't think yours had a number Chris?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Penfold View Post
    I want to know what happens if you were to use the un-registered shell to reshell a Road legal car...
    You have the shell restamped and documented.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The new Bill J View Post
    I'm guessing it would depend on whether the shell has a chassis number or not. I believe Kris was told that VOSA's way of thinking is; if the shell has no number, then it wasn't meant to be on the road for some reason, so they won't let it

    I didn't think yours had a number Chris?
    Mine doesn't have a chassis number, but according to the DVLA if i wanted to i could re-shell a 5 GT Turbo using a % of original major parts and then i could transfer the VIN/Chassis detaisl over... it gets my cup car on the road that way...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Penfold View Post
    Mine doesn't have a chassis number, but according to the DVLA if i wanted to i could re-shell a 5 GT Turbo using a % of original major parts and then i could transfer the VIN/Chassis detaisl over... it gets my cup car on the road that way...
    I think something that Kris learnt was to take what the DVLA say with a pinch of salt. He spoke to one of the top bods at VOSA, who told him that they're forever having to tell the DVLA staff not to give out incorrect info

    I'm not saying they're lying though, and I hope you manage to get yours sorted. One day I might pull my finger out and get mine done. I'm going to have to soon, if I want to drive a 5 on the road again

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    sod all that !!!! that seems like hard work

    dose anybody know where i can get a roll cage and a couple of seats from who needs a raider interior ?

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