Turbo Toaster

[TNT!hammond]

hahaha u tell em mark,

ipswich u really do not help yourself, guys and girls on here are car enthusiasts mainly , not some barrys who like to here about street racing, maybe we have all done it a little but choose not to post about it. Main reason you shouldn't is because 1, your car isnt even mapped and no one likes a muppet ragging an unmapped car and 2, you come across like a muppet, which in alll honesty although you do have your moments you are actually a genuinely nice guy, which is the best you will ever hear me say about you :P. Your project page of recent is becoming like a fast and the furious forum arguement between a vauxhall nova and the us starship enterprise .

lets get it back on track hey? which is where i intend to meet you

TNT hoooooooooooooooooooooooo

hammond out

[TNT ANDY]

hahaha u tell em mark,

ipswich u really do not help yourself, guys and girls on here are car enthusiasts mainly , not some barrys who like to here about street racing, maybe we have all done it a little but choose not to post about it. Main reason you shouldn't is because 1, your car isnt even mapped and no one likes a muppet ragging an unmapped car and 2, you come across like a muppet, which in alll honesty although you do have your moments you are actually a genuinely nice guy, which is the best you will ever hear me say about you :P. Your project page of recent is becoming like a fast and the furious forum arguement between a vauxhall nova and the us starship enterprise .

lets get it back on track hey? which is where i intend to meet you

TNT hoooooooooooooooooooooooo

hammond out

Wish there was a handbag smiley

[5teve L]

Wish there was a handbag smiley

He makes a valid point though

[HAndy]

Wish there was a handbag smiley

wish there was a Plum!! smiley, can't wait to see ross(aka the haribo kid) and oli (the suffolk plum)get it on @ the next rtoc trackday

[Os8472]

Yikes talk about taking things out of context

My post about the GTO race was not trying to show off, I just trying to point out how impressed I'am with what the F7R can do, I knew from the passenger ride Coops kindly gave me at national day in his clio 1.8turbo that it was going to be good, I just didn't realise how good, I won't say how much of a better engine than the C1J because A) the C1J has some very good points about it and B) people will slate me for saying it (namely Ross )

Sorry if people have started to dislike my project thread over this, I didn't mean to upset anyone or start any arguements (except with Ross )

Seriously though I'm not tring to show off or go all ricer, was just trying to show that the F7R, even the sometimes called lesser Megane F7R engine is actually a really good base to start with.

Normal braking of parts and nailing bits on to the car service will resume shortly.













Oh yeah one more thing................ Ross, whats this about me being actually a genuinely nice guy?

Have you been hit over the head or somit lol

Seriously though fella, roll on Blyton Park, can't wait to see how your 5 and mine stack up

[Os8472]

While the car was reciving new sills I had a proper down pipe made up and while they were at I figured it was a good time to replace the knackered silencer



Old V New


As for the down pipe, well I think I'll let the pics speak for themselves

[Os8472]

One more thing, been spending some money on new brakes, last month I replaced the rear calipers, pads and hand brake cables and after abit of adjusting they sailed through the MOT with no problem, unfortunatly they now show up how bad the front brakes are, the brake dyno showed the the fronts were well down compared to the newly fixed rears so something had to been done.

A few quid later and I have a pair of these sat on my dinning room table


HAndy kindly provided the mounting brakets, all I have to do is get a couple of thread adaptors to convert the GTT flexi lines from M10x1mm to the 1/8npt to suit the calipers.

[TNT ANDY]

Oli, erm I mean Ipswich looking the tits bud, Now you'll be able to stop after caining everything in Suffolk.

[Os8472]

Oli, erm I mean Ipswich looking the tits bud, Now you'll be able to stop after caining everything in Suffolk.

That's the plan

Bit worried it'll pull stoppies though lol

[Penfold aka The Dealer]

Let me know how the 4pots feel oli, I am looking forward to getting them on my car soon

[Os8472]

Let me know how the 4pots feel oli, I am looking forward to getting them on my car soon

What piston size did you go for?

[Ashy]

What did the 4 pots set you back mate, I think I'm gona go down this route!

[Penfold aka The Dealer]

What piston size did you go for?

This is the set i brought
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/renault-5-...item1c1fe040c1

I dont know the piston size of hand & not at home to check them...

[Os8472]

What did the 4 pots set you back mate, I think I'm gona go down this route!

Calipers and pads were 450ish, ain't got the receipt to hand

[Os8472]

This is the set i brought
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/renault-5-...item1c1fe040c1

I dont know the piston size of hand & not at home to check them...

Ah ok, I went for the smallest size I could get as just two of the pistons added up to more than the stock calipers, if you go to big your master cylinder won't keep up, ask MarkyB about the trouble he had

[markey b]

Oli, erm I mean Ipswich looking the tits bud, Now you'll be able to stop after caining everything in Suffolk.

I'm from suffolk...... I run 98psi on low boost ;-)

[Os8472]

I'm from suffolk...... I run 98psi on low boost ;-)

meh shouldn't be a problem

[TNT!hammond]

[markey b]

Lol. 11's now making boost so u can practice on a mighty f7 first ;-)

[Os8472]

Lol. 11's now making boost so u can practice on a mighty f7 first ;-)

About time you got that sorted, what was the problem?

[Os8472]

Bollox, just pulled the old front calipers off to fit the new 4 pots but because of the side entry into the calipers for the brake lines when you turn full lock let's say left the flexi pipe touches the drive shaft guess I need to find some m10 90 degree unions, any ideas where?

[TNT ANDY]

Bollox, just pulled the old front calipers off to fit the new 4 pots but because of the side entry into the calipers for the brake lines when you turn full lock let's say left the flexi pipe touches the drive shaft guess I need to find some m10 90 degree unions, any ideas where?

Best bet would be hose solutions I am thinking Mr Oli

[Os8472]

Best bet would be hose solutions I am thinking Mr Oli

Just had a look, no fittings on their site, an email i think to see if they do have something, rather not have to change the flexi lines though

[Scoff]

Bollox, just pulled the old front calipers off to fit the new 4 pots but because of the side entry into the calipers for the brake lines when you turn full lock let's say left the flexi pipe touches the drive shaft guess I need to find some m10 90 degree unions, any ideas where?

think auto ? Best to call them because finding anything in their catalogue takes the best part of a day.

[Os8472]

think auto ? Best to call them because finding anything in their catalogue takes the best part of a day.

Yikes I see what you mean.

Popped into my local hydrolic supplier and the've got a pair of adaptors coming for Thursday

[Os8472]

Yay, 4 pots are on, thanks to HAndy for lending a hand to bleed them up.

I gotta say they work really well, ok they need more bedding in but the result so far is brilliant, so much that I had a thought as my head bounced off the steering wheel, "damn, knew I shoulda tightened up the harnesses more"

[TNT ANDY]

Mapping Wednesday - Is this the completion?

Whatever next.

Good luck Wednesday.

[TNT Tricky Nicky]

where are you going for mapping oli?

[Os8472]

Mapping Wednesday - Is this the completion?

Whatever next.

Good luck Wednesday.

Completion??? Don't be daft lol

I'm fully expecting the gearbox to spit its dummy

[Os8472]

where are you going for mapping oli?

Emerald in Watton, I think Dave will be annoyed with the amount of work he's gotta do lol

[Os8472]

Finally got off my arse and took a pic of the new brakes


Also during sundays jobs I decided to do a scheduled oil and filter change.............

what a damn fool I am for thinking that it would be a good idea, fooking filter didn't want to let go of the sandwhich plate so it took a little be of persuasion

here's the results

[5teve L]

Looks like a typical Ipswich removal to me

[Tony Walker]

Good job you changed it, thats f****d

[Os8472]

With just 2 hours till its due for mapping I just had to change the alt as it was playing up thanks to JP for lending me his alt for the day, now it's a case of finding out what went wrong with it and the fact that it's a 110a job not the normal 70a, anyone know if keeping the 110a job would put too much strain on the wiring? I hope it don't but I think it probably is

[Os8472]

Well here's the dyno result

At 7psi 211.4bhp and 203ft lb

At 11psi 234bhp and 247ft lb

Unfortunately the actuator wasn't holding anymore boost but even if it did I dout it'd blow anything other than hot air, so next year when funds allow a new tubby is order

[TNT ANDY]

With just 2 hours till its due for mapping I just had to change the alt as it was playing up thanks to JP for lending me his alt for the day, now it's a case of finding out what went wrong with it and the fact that it's a 110a job not the normal 70a, anyone know if keeping the 110a job would put too much strain on the wiring? I hope it don't but I think it probably is

Your alternator will put out as much as is required from it upto 110A, it does not pump out 110A all the time. Look at it as an MCB rating you fool. MCBs operate (generally) know where near their capacity - the alternator does the same. Jp's alternator will be perfect for when you go full Barry Boy and put some Ice in.

[TNT ANDY]

Well here's the dyno result

At 7psi 211.4bhp and 203ft lb

At 11psi 234bhp and 247ft lb

Unfortunately the actuator wasn't holding anymore boost but even if it did I dout it'd blow anything other than hot air, so next year when funds allow a new tubby is order

All looks pretty standard for the lump, well done Oli - how does it feel to drive now???

[Os8472]

Your alternator will put out as much as is required from it upto 110A, it does not pump out 110A all the time. Look at it as an MCB rating you fool. MCBs operate (generally) know where near their capacity - the alternator does the same. Jp's alternator will be perfect for when you go full Barry Boy and put some Ice in.

Do'h yeah of course, brain fade lol

[Os8472]

All looks pretty standard for the lump, well done Oli - how does it feel to drive now???

Cheers bud, goes like hell even on the 7psi setting, power is instant and just pulls all the way to the peak.

Needs some track time for proper testing

[Andrew Cooke]

Well here's the dyno result

At 7psi 211.4bhp and 203ft lb

At 11psi 234bhp and 247ft lb

Unfortunately the actuator wasn't holding anymore boost but even if it did I dout it'd blow anything other than hot air, so next year when funds allow a new tubby is order

you can see the efficiency dropping off, from the 7psi run you can calculate 142hp and 137ft lb na, so at 11psi you should be getting nearer to 250hp and 241ft lb - looks like you weren't at exactly 7 and 11psi at both peak torque and power?

[Os8472]

you can see the efficiency dropping off, from the 7psi run you can calculate 142hp and 137ft lb na, so at 11psi you should be getting nearer to 250hp and 241ft lb - looks like you weren't at exactly 7 and 11psi at both peak torque and power?

Good eye fella, it was more like 6.8 psi and 10.4psi and because the small turn power dropped off very early, I'll get off my arse at some point and upload the dyno print outs

[Os8472]

[Os8472]

Haven't done much to the 5 since I go it mapped except for drive it that was until the clutch let go, release bearing disintergrated and the centre splines of the friction plate stripped.

So while it's all apart I've taken the chance to sort a few bits.

Get the ecu software upgraded the trigger pattern of the clio 172 flywheel as I have a lightened and balanced job.

Reseal the sump, cam carriers and cam cover.

Replace 1 way valve to brake servo.

Change turbo rear housing from .49 to .64 and fit stronger actuator.

[tom t]

how long till you have all of that sorted bud? good stuff apart from it breaking lol. lets hope i dont come across this on the roads or im gana cry and want another 5 lol

[Os8472]

Well I've already resealed the sump, sent the ecu for the upgrade and changed the rear housing on the turbo, just waitin to get the new clutch and the ecu back before I can do anymore but hopefully it'll be back together by Monday next.

You know you want another 5 so just go get 1

[tom t]

yeah tell me about it just waiting for the funds to hopefully arrive
being tempted by some audis i think though. will have to arrange to see your motor at some time maybe to sway me

[Scoff]

What was the ECU upgrade for oli ? You know you can grind the extra tooth out of the 172 wheel to turn it in to bosch 60-2 ?

[Os8472]

What was the ECU upgrade for oli ? You know you can grind the extra tooth out of the 172 wheel to turn it in to bosch 60-2 ?

I did that with the megane flywheel but Emerald wrote an upgrade for HAndy's ecu so it'd read the stock trigger pattern so you don't half to and as its costing me nothing other than a little time I'm going with that option instead of the grief of having break out the grinding bits in the cold.

[Os8472]

Been too long since I last updated this so there's quite abit to do.

First off I broke the car in December on the way home from a mates, the damage, knackered clutch plate, knackered clutch bearing, knackered driveshaft and as the weather has been so cold I'm only know getting on with fixing it but in the meantime I've been collecting parts.

Gaz rear dampers
Forge adjustable actuator
Rose jointed top mounts
Larger boost pipes
Uprated engine mounts (Logg versions)
JC5 Gearbox
Plus a few other bits.

[Os8472]

Currently the car looks like this


And the engine and box is here