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    I ain't got anywhere with it either myself, all I did was cop the pin the rotor arm slides over off and make up a flate plate of ally and screwed it down
    tubby 5 has done a simlar thing. im going to have a look tomorrow and see what i can come up with ideally i want it to sit flush with the block and be totally forgotten about .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Os8472 View Post
    I ain't got anywhere with it either myself, all I did was cop the pin the rotor arm slides over off and make up a flate plate of ally and screwed it down
    got a pic ?

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    i just got a cap made up,seemed the easier option,also my dad has had his modified it sticks out of the block by about 2" looks really neat

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    Quote Originally Posted by RICHIE View Post
    im yet to make something to fill the dizzy gear drive i know i need most of it to drive the oil pump but i was hoping to fabricate something to finish flush with the top of the block. im sure sure were im fitting the coil pack yet so was going to get some leads made up to the exact length just to look tidy.

    Hi Richie - looking very good indeed, I'm doing the same conversion but you're a little ahead of me in many ways. Just as a thought though, I have a coil pack which I intend to mount on top of the rocker cover so that the leads are as short as possible. Got the idea off my mrs' cooper 's' (not a real mini) which looks very good.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Os8472 View Post
    I ain't got anywhere with it either myself, all I did was cop the pin the rotor arm slides over off and make up a flate plate of ally and screwed it down
    Is ally a good material to use for this???

    Or am I being too picky?

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    Re: my efi converison

    Quote Originally Posted by TNT ANDY View Post
    Hi Richie - looking very good indeed, I'm doing the same conversion but you're a little ahead of me in many ways. Just as a thought though, I have a coil pack which I intend to mount on top of the rocker cover so that the leads are as short as possible. Got the idea off my mrs' cooper 's' (not a real mini) which looks very good.
    i was just going to mount the pack on the front of the block make up a little bracket and get some leads made to suit i may have a play with that later im just in the process of relocating the header tank at the moment.

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    Re: my efi converison

    Quote Originally Posted by TNT ANDY View Post
    Hi Richie - looking very good indeed, I'm doing the same conversion but you're a little ahead of me in many ways. Just as a thought though, I have a coil pack which I intend to mount on top of the rocker cover so that the leads are as short as possible. Got the idea off my mrs' cooper 's' (not a real mini) which looks very good.

    i just read a thread it seems your ahead of me mate as you have the ecu installed

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    Re: my efi converison

    This is what I did with my dizzy, I'd like to do somit that is level with the block but for now this will do
    https://www.rtoc.org/boards/picture.p...pictureid=7247

    This is where I mounted the coil pack, its a ford job off a 1995 fiesta
    https://www.rtoc.org/boards/picture.p...pictureid=7248

    Because of the coil pack sitting so far from the head I had to get some custom HT leads so I visited http://www.autoelectricsupplies.co.uk/ and ordered some resistive core, supressed plug caps and dizzy straight connectors which fit into some adaptors I already had from Halfrauds

    And thats what they look like
    https://www.rtoc.org/boards/picture.p...pictureid=7249

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    Re: my efi converison

    Quote Originally Posted by Os8472 View Post
    This is what I did with my dizzy, I'd like to do somit that is level with the block but for now this will do
    https://www.rtoc.org/boards/picture.p...pictureid=7247

    This is where I mounted the coil pack, its a ford job off a 1995 fiesta
    https://www.rtoc.org/boards/picture.p...pictureid=7248

    Because of the coil pack sitting so far from the head I had to get some custom HT leads so I visited http://www.autoelectricsupplies.co.uk/ and ordered some resistive core, supressed plug caps and dizzy straight connectors which fit into some adaptors I already had from Halfrauds

    And thats what they look like
    https://www.rtoc.org/boards/picture.p...pictureid=7249

    the route seems to be a little big for my liking i was just going to fit mine at the front of the block as i do have a reasonable amount of space there

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    Re: my efi converison

    Quote Originally Posted by RICHIE View Post
    the route seems to be a little big for my liking i was just going to fit mine at the front of the block as i do have a reasonable amount of space there
    I know what ya mean, I would've liked to get it abit closer but there was little choice cus it was either in the inner wing where it would be nice and cool but the long leads or mount it on the front of the block where the leads wouldn't be much longer than standard but it would get very hot

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    Re: my efi converison

    Coilpack should be mounted on the engine block if you can. Failing that mount it on the body but have a good earth strap connecting engine and body near where the coilpack is mounted. You can get into a world of EMI and poor spark if you don't.

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    Re: my efi converison

    Quote Originally Posted by Scoff View Post
    Coilpack should be mounted on the engine block if you can. Failing that mount it on the body but have a good earth strap connecting engine and body near where the coilpack is mounted. You can get into a world of EMI and poor spark if you don't.
    I can understand the advantage of having it on the block but surely mounting it else where with a good earth is better cus you don't get the heat issue?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Os8472 View Post
    I can understand the advantage of having it on the block but surely mounting it else where with a good earth is better cus you don't get the heat issue?
    Well, you should compromise. you are after creating the most direct and resistance free earth return for the spark. the cylinder head is the earth for the spark plug. You have many kV of spark potential that needs an earth. You don't want to be creating a big earth loop in the HT circuit by having the coilpack mounted meters away from the nearest body-to-engine earth, it can cause a lot of inteference. But as you say, too much heat isn't good either. Somewhere on the front of the engine block would be a winner - short HT leads, a cool location and a good earth.

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    Re: my efi converison

    Quote Originally Posted by Scoff View Post
    Well, you should compromise. you are after creating the most direct and resistance free earth return for the spark. the cylinder head is the earth for the spark plug. You have many kV of spark potential that needs an earth. You don't want to be creating a big earth loop in the HT circuit by having the coilpack mounted meters away from the nearest body-to-engine earth, it can cause a lot of inteference. But as you say, too much heat isn't good either. Somewhere on the front of the engine block would be a winner - short HT leads, a cool location and a good earth.
    So basically we're fecked lol

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    Re: my efi converison

    better picture of progress now you can see the scuttle cover template in situ so im going to knock a carbon fibre one up maybe even stick to the white. i changed the header tanks plans slightly got rid of the heater matrix hoses all together along with the swirl pot so minimal hoses in there now. just means i have no heating but thats ok i got a rtoc fleece if its cold. also decided today i didnt like the oe horn setup so removed the bracket for that and replaced the huge one with a little tiny one which can be heard rather than that little pwarp noise.
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    Re: my efi converison

    Looking good Richie.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RICHIE View Post
    i just read a thread it seems your ahead of me mate as you have the ecu installed

    No really - believe me when I say you're streets ahead, mines running on a base map (ignition only ATM - Fuel injection is my winter project) but more StuTH than what you're doing, If I had more time and patience I would do the kind of build your doing. Mines going to be simply solid and functional. Lovely engine bays and fantastic bodywork aint my thing due to time. I'll put some photo's up and you'll see what I mean. There's a few of us over here in the east keeping a keen eye on yours and we're looking forwards to see it coming together. Keep up the good work.

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    https://www.rtoc.org/boards/album.php?albumid=712

    There you go - and not to forget to mention I would still be scratching my head without the help from Scoff with the Adaptronic stuff. Cheers fella

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    Quote Originally Posted by TNT ANDY View Post
    https://www.rtoc.org/boards/album.php?albumid=712

    There you go - and not to forget to mention I would still be scratching my head without the help from Scoff with the Adaptronic stuff. Cheers fella
    good work fella i take it the earth for that coil pack goes to the block does it rather than the rocker cover. is it now up and running. i must admit the bay does make me want to come round and clean it. have you got any plans for a inlet manifold for the winter project then.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RICHIE View Post
    good work fella i take it the earth for that coil pack goes to the block does it rather than the rocker cover. is it now up and running. i must admit the bay does make me want to come round and clean it. have you got any plans for a inlet manifold for the winter project then.
    The ground it through the 3 x m6's through the coilpack to the base plate which is welded directly to the rocker cover which in turn has 3 x m8's directly into the block and an additional pigtail from the coilpack connector to one of the rocker cover nuts. How good this will perform under stress I don't know but it runs ok in the garage, the rpm's are steady and consistant. I'm sure Scoff will put me right on this if he reads this .

    I already have the same inlet set-up as your good self and any time you want to come round and clean my engine bay up you are more than welcome.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TNT ANDY View Post
    The ground it through the 3 x m6's through the coilpack to the base plate which is welded directly to the rocker cover which in turn has 3 x m8's directly into the block and an additional pigtail from the coilpack connector to one of the rocker cover nuts. How good this will perform under stress I don't know but it runs ok in the garage, the rpm's are steady and consistant. I'm sure Scoff will put me right on this if he reads this .

    I already have the same inlet set-up as your good self and any time you want to come round and clean my engine bay up you are more than welcome.
    great yarmouth sounds like a little road trip. i need to pull my finger out and get my ecu and loom ordered up through scoff also but i keep finding other things that need altering and modding just realised i also need to get a tap to tap the end plate on the cylinder head for the temp sensor and still sort the dizzy drive out.

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    Andy, the rocker cover may not be earthed, it sits on a rubber seal and the nuts have fiber washers beneth them remember. The earth in the loom is only for the ignitor circuit, the HT coil iteself needs to earth through those 3 bolts, so maybe it's worth running a strap from the rocker cover to block to be sure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scoff View Post
    Andy, the rocker cover may not be earthed, it sits on a rubber seal and the nuts have fiber washers beneth them remember. The earth in the loom is only for the ignitor circuit, the HT coil iteself needs to earth through those 3 bolts, so maybe it's worth running a strap from the rocker cover to block to be sure.
    thats why i mentioned it also scoff as i was thinking the same.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scoff View Post
    Andy, the rocker cover may not be earthed, it sits on a rubber seal and the nuts have fiber washers beneth them remember. The earth in the loom is only for the ignitor circuit, the HT coil iteself needs to earth through those 3 bolts, so maybe it's worth running a strap from the rocker cover to block to be sure.

    Will do ol Scoffy man!

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    Quote Originally Posted by TNT ANDY View Post
    https://www.rtoc.org/boards/album.php?albumid=712

    There you go - and not to forget to mention I would still be scratching my head without the help from Scoff with the Adaptronic stuff. Cheers fella
    Andy mate, thats comin on a treat, can't wait to see it up and running

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    Quote Originally Posted by Os8472 View Post
    Andy mate, thats comin on a treat, can't wait to see it up and running
    Cheers Olski - it'll just be ignition atm.

    Right on with busting that rust.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TNT ANDY View Post
    Cheers Olski - it'll just be ignition atm.

    Right on with busting that rust.

    Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr rrr
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    Re: my efi converison

    Quote Originally Posted by TNT ANDY View Post
    https://www.rtoc.org/boards/album.php?albumid=712

    There you go - and not to forget to mention I would still be scratching my head without the help from Scoff with the Adaptronic stuff. Cheers fella
    A couple of points on your pictures:

    IMO...

    you need the header tank for the charge cooler circuit to be the highest point of the system.

    You need some way of ensuring that the air gets out of the top of the CC and into the header tank.

    Maybe that's all sorted, but it doesn't look like it to me

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    Quote Originally Posted by Andrew Cooke View Post
    A couple of points on your pictures:

    IMO...

    you need the header tank for the charge cooler circuit to be the highest point of the system.

    You need some way of ensuring that the air gets out of the top of the CC and into the header tank.

    Maybe that's all sorted, but it doesn't look like it to me

    Hi Andy - Thanks for those pointers, I have bled the system when I filled it. Will that not be adequate?

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    Re: my efi converison

    Quote Originally Posted by TNT ANDY View Post
    Hi Andy - Thanks for those pointers, I have bled the system when I filled it. Will that not be adequate?
    I think you've hijacked Riche's thread abit mate, maybe u should start ya own

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    Quote Originally Posted by Os8472 View Post
    I think you've hijacked Riche's thread abit mate, maybe u should start ya own
    its sound on my side as its all relevant and a good chance to share ideas in the same thread.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RICHIE View Post
    its sound on my side as its all relevant and a good chance to share ideas in the same thread.
    fair enough then, Andy, hijack away lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by Os8472 View Post
    fair enough then, Andy, hijack away lol

    oops - oli - quite right back to the point ..


    New thread started about header tank location.

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    Got any further Richie ???

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    Quote Originally Posted by TNT ANDY View Post
    Got any further Richie ???
    not alot finished of part of the boost piping cylinder head end plate is being sent to scoff to have two sensor holes tapped into it. also got the strut brace to figure out i just need the bar making accross as it interferes with the pipe work. then need to get my ecu ordered up but was doing all the time consuming jobs first
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    Quote Originally Posted by RICHIE View Post
    not alot finished of part of the boost piping cylinder head end plate is being sent to scoff to have two sensor holes tapped into it. also got the strut brace to figure out i just need the bar making accross as it interferes with the pipe work. then need to get my ecu ordered up but was doing all the time consuming jobs first

    Looking good dude, keep at it, it'll be worth it in the end

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    Yo Richie - what injector rail are you useing? I've got me a Skoda felicia item - not too sue what to do with the FPR at the mo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RICHIE View Post
    not alot finished of part of the boost piping cylinder head end plate is being sent to scoff to have two sensor holes tapped into it. also got the strut brace to figure out i just need the bar making accross as it interferes with the pipe work. then need to get my ecu ordered up but was doing all the time consuming jobs first

    2 sensor holes?

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    Quote Originally Posted by TNT ANDY View Post
    2 sensor holes?
    Air temp in the boost pipe and coolant temp in the end plate

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    Quote Originally Posted by Os8472 View Post
    Air temp in the boost pipe and coolant temp in the end plate

    nope one for my stack dash and the other for the ecu side of things so both going in the end plate

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    Quote Originally Posted by TNT ANDY View Post
    Yo Richie - what injector rail are you useing? I've got me a Skoda felicia item - not too sue what to do with the FPR at the mo.

    you would have to ask michael what the fuel rail is from mine already came with the fpr on it so yet to see how it goes

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    Very small bit of progress thanks to tnt hammond i now have a boxed in the air filter behind the headlight cheers fella

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    Tidy!

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    looking good fella, glad it fitted ok, was worried about the diffence between the 2 cars . If it was a mini it would never have been the same

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    Quote Originally Posted by RICHIE View Post
    Very small bit of progress thanks to tnt hammond i now have a boxed in the air filter behind the headlight cheers fella
    Nice

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