Thought id start this up again as the extensive build thread went with the old site..
Take one diesel extra van, Spur of the moment ebay purchase
Dug out the old 1986 r11t lump out the garage that had been stored for many years. Rebuild?? i think not. if it ain't broke don't fix it. This is a pmt spec build.
Add a bit of PMT
2 months later...
Ready for Fcs 08
Last edited by Brigsy; 10-03-2009 at 12:48.
Add a t28 & set boost/fuelling up to 16lb manifold
Rtoc day @ pod 08, Set the benchmark of 14.6 @91 on slicks, 14.8 road tyres..
I love this Brigsy. I bet you upset a few chavs at the lights in this..
Took it on track at Mallory park 08, not without problems but got a few laps in. Sorted suspension/brakes beforehand.
Fitted a set of clio williams alloys for winter
From this..
To this
A few vids of it in action, Santa pod
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6VhNROKsqg0
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=eYUGoh9nApw
On the rollers at motorscope, 161hp fly, 146lb torque.
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=uj8UMRU8tws
That brings the thread up to date. Ive just been servicing & generally driving it everywhere with no faults.
Anyway i have gathered a few parts together in the goal for more power & generally make the engine breathe a little bit better. My goal for this year is to try & crack a 13 sec run at the pod.
Have the cam/vernier out of Ashy's old Dd Autosports raider to fit. Will be pulling it to bits as soon as so expect some big updates soon
And you can hump your bird in it all night too!
Aye plenty of room for some action
Nice to see my old Extra turbo on the strip too
That is having some engine work done at the minute so you might be having a rivel chacing a 13's in an Extra too
you`ve done a really nice job on that matey! give yourself a pat on the back
Awsome van, looks so Cooooooollllllllll
Love this van...seen it at FCS last year
As they say in Devon, 'tis a Proper Job. Love it
What colour are the winter williams wheels sprayed in? Theyre luuurvly.
https://www.rtoc.org/boards/showthread.php?t=2231Originally Posted by Alastair
As they say in Devon, 'tis a Proper Job. Love it
What colour are the winter williams wheels sprayed in? Theyre luuurvly.
you might wanna check how much the cam compresses the piper springs before you torque it all up....
top work there brigsy
i think you've made me decide what to buy to carry my dog around inthis way i'll still have c1j or b18ft power.
You make me laugh RajOne minute you're telling us how you hate the C1J and you need to go Jap, and the next you're planning a new project so you can keep some C1J powered Renault in your life
coilbound isnt a good thing then?
Cheers all. I recommend this conversion to anybody, so much fun on the road
Ill check the piper springs out at full lift when i get the cam in Sparkie, see if there coilbound. Its a bit of a learning curve fitting this cam, Ive never fitted a hot cam in any engine. Should be fun & games..
hahaha yeah I was thinking that too! Last rebuild thread Raj, you said you were done with the C1J!You make me laugh Raj
You just cant get enough!
I must say Brigsy, it does look lovely, and I do crave to do one at some point! And it has a degree of practicality to it, when you want to carry stuff about, or turn it into a mini camper van (which is probably what I'd doCheers all. I recommend this conversion to anybody, so much fun on the road
Ill check the piper springs out at full lift when i get the cam in Sparkie. Its a bit of a learning curve fitting this cam, Ive never fitted a hot cam in any engine. Should be fun & games..
i slapa your faceYou make me laugh Raj
yes i do want to go jap as my main car
its true lol, ill always like the c1j for its simplicity. its just lately all the little issues have been whinding me uphahaha yeah I was thinking that too! Last rebuild thread Raj, you said you were done with the C1J!
You just cant get enough!1 after another! the cars up and running now though
How hard was is it to swap from diesel to petrol engine???
do the r5's wings,headlamps,indicators,grill and bumper fit on the extra van.? i only ask as im sure ive seen one somewhere but i forget where
Haz (and maybe Scoff as well?) built one a while back in blue, but I think they scrapped it in the end. I'm not sure whether it was just swapping the panels, or whether further work was involved.
That was Haz's, It was volvo turbo powered through. Funny ending to that, he started a pick-up conversion, we had a GTT roof installed, bulkhead, rear panels and a smooth tailgate inplace. In the end there was way too much blending and filler work and no one had the time anymore. it got weighed in
Derv to petrol was easy. I retained the derv tank & wiring harness.
To fit the normal car r5 front end the slam panel has to be changed as its different. Too much effort for me with my lack of welding/bodywork skill
As for practicality, ive had it filled to the roof a few times, its an ideal workhorse. Its a little bouncy when on the bumpstops
if its the cam out of the DD autosports raider, then its pretty hot. im sure i Glen told me it was a 282 or something like that. not sure of the lift though, but i do remember him telling me that on his old 11, he had the spring pedestals machined down to allow for extra lift. if he continued the theme on with the raider then you might have to end up doing the same.
the difference in the engine will shock you when you get it running.
also be aware the brakes might feel slightly worse, as the cam will not produce the same vacuum as a standard cam.
Ill look into that
Ive been looking on the cam wizard, my cam has peak valve lift of 9.49mm at 112deg, compared to a piper 285 that has 9.955mm @ 110deg. Does the usual piper 285 need the pedestals machining?
you will be fine with the piper springs!
[quote=Brigsy;51084]A few vids of it in action, Santa pod
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6VhNROKsqg0
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=eYUGoh9nApw
On the rollers at motorscope, 161hp fly, 146lb torque.
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=uj8UMRU8tws
That brings the thread up to date. Ive just been servicing & generally driving it everywhere with no faults.
Anyway i have gathered a few parts together in the goal for more power & generally make the engine breathe a little bit better. My goal for this year is to try & crack a 13 sec run at the pod.
Have the cam/vernier out of Ashy's old Dd Autosports raider to fit. Will be pulling it to bits as soon as so expect some big updates soon
Are you going to try the spoiler on the roof crack to see if it will help flow air over the steped roof, different day different time with the van
Started the stripdown tonight, Hour & half & only the shafts left to remove then out it comes.
Ace van enjoyed seeing it at nationals day and the motorscope rolling road
i was actually thinking about doing this to the 5! chop the slam panel at both ends and then bolt it back on! at least you can take it off to gain better access.
Yeah that seems a good idea. My colt has a bolt on slam panel.i was actually thinking about doing this to the 5! chop the slam panel at both ends and then bolt it back on! at least you can take it off to gain better access.
Well its been a productive night down Pmt secret lockup deep in the north east...
Engine ooot
Stripped down to bare block/head, Now the fun begins fitting the new bits
Did the same to my 16v Phase I turbo. Makes life alot easier!
Good progress mate
Come on, hurry up
best-van-ever
Well cam is in finally, block/gearbox all painted up too. Cam timing has tested my patience earlier, had to dig out the old David Vizard book to get my head round it! Tomorrows job is to put it right, going to start from fresh
On the plus side the mating face on the original head is mint. The original headgasket was in a1 condition, pistons are det free. My carb setup can't be too bad
Ive noticed the timing chain cover won't go fully home with the thicker vernier, Whats the best way around this, thinner washer?
Also one of the bolts rounded off on the vernier, Had to drill the bloody thing out which was fun.
Got some good pics of it coming together anyway, will update tomorrow.
no matter what brand of adjustable vernier you use,they all seem to have the same issues with bolts rounding off/not tough enough.
Aye, vernier is essential for correct timing though. Im more annoyed the cover won't fit back on. Its a bufty chrome one, So ideally dont want to hammer it
Whats the timing like on OE pulley? The only method i think most peeps have done is bash the cover out....
thinner washer and grind the head of the cam bolt thinner....
I run a cork gasket on the timing cover - never had a clearance problem..
Did you make your own gasket Andy? Im sure i read somewhere on the old site theres a cork gasket for the n/a c series lumps..
If not its grinder time & different washer
elring bottom end gasket set....
Good crack, Do gsf stock that set Sparkie?
Well cam is timed up now, Cracked it straight away with help from the David vizard book. I think i had spent too long on it yesterday to even see where i was going wrong!
Timed the cam up to 113 deg, 1 deg adv as chain is new. I took this as correct off the cam wizard as i have no info for the cam.
Sump is back on, have changed it for the ph1 baffled sump with breather pipe. The original sump is baffled too
I have also refitted the sump before the timing chain cover, It looks like it will be fun fitting the seal on the chain cover now. The original one off the engine didn't have the rubber seal, only thixo between sump & cover. Im tempted to do this on new one.
A few pics of this weekends progress. Hoping to have it up & running this week
there are no sets of anything currently at main warehouse. the delivery is due this week? might not be elring though. if its corteco/meillor then it definately will not have that gasket.Good crack, Do gsf stock that set Sparkie?
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