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    Renault 11 F4Rt

    Today I finally decided to bite the bullet and start the project R11 F4Rt.

    After a little bit of cutting waheeyyy it fits

    I don't know how long it's going to take me to get everything sorted everything but now I know that it fits the rest should be fairly easy

    here are some sneak previews;
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    Re: Renault 11 F4Rt

    Nice, this should turn into a nice little project, should be interesting to see what it'd do on the track

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    Re: Renault 11 F4Rt

    can anyone point me in the right direction where I can get an inlet flange made out of aluminium?

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    Re: Renault 11 F4Rt

    That has to be the most optimistic use of the word 'fits' ever

    it'll be great when it's done, must be over a year ago that you sourced the engine?

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    Re: Renault 11 F4Rt

    Quote Originally Posted by Andrew Cooke View Post
    That has to be the most optimistic use of the word 'fits' ever

    it'll be great when it's done, must be over a year ago that you sourced the engine?

    well if it's in it means that it fits

    yeah it was 2008 christmas when I bought the engine and by the time I got it shipped and finished my army service and built a Gtt from scratch (phew) finally it's time

    time moves on so quick Andy and I want to get it finished before I'm too old to drive it

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    Re: Renault 11 F4Rt

    true, you don't want to get to my age and still be working on a undriveable renault

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    Re: Renault 11 F4Rt

    Quote Originally Posted by Andrew Cooke View Post
    true, you don't want to get to my age and still be working on a undriveable renault
    What like every member on here who ever bought an R5 with the intention of keeping it standard

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    Re: Renault 11 F4Rt

    Subscribed.

    Great project mate. Good luck with it

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    Re: Renault 11 F4Rt

    Quote Originally Posted by Andrew Cooke View Post
    true, you don't want to get to my age and still be working on a undriveable renault

    look to the bright side, it makes you a more skillful driver everyday

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    Re: Renault 11 F4Rt

    Quote Originally Posted by Mart View Post
    Subscribed.

    Great project mate. Good luck with it

    thanks Martski, looks like it's going to be fun

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    Re: Renault 11 F4Rt

    Seems to ve very interesting... it would be awesome to follow this one. Good luck!

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    Re: Renault 11 F4Rt

    SQQQEEEEZE!! Just proves to me i would have had no effin chance with that box! Ilker, where is the rest of it??
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    Re: Renault 11 F4Rt

    Quote Originally Posted by MATT C Ringworm Tuning View Post
    SQQQEEEEZE!! Just proves to me i would have had no effin chance with that box! Ilker, where is the rest of it??

    Matt, you're right there mate, that box is a big no for the Gtt.

    well the rest? errrm, as soon as I figure out how do I go on about engine mounts the rest will follow pretty quick I reckon.

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    Re: Renault 11 F4Rt

    weapons of war
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    Re: Renault 11 F4Rt

    ILKER , YOU SICK BARSTEWARD !!!


    while you are there ,may i suggest upgrading the whole suspension to
    renault 19 16v stuff ??

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    Re: Renault 11 F4Rt

    Quote Originally Posted by Schakal View Post
    ILKER , YOU SICK BARSTEWARD !!!


    while you are there ,may i suggest upgrading the whole suspension to
    renault 19 16v stuff ??

    I take that as a compliment, thank you

    I'm running full set of Leda coilovers with ally top mounts and 300lb/ft eibach springs mate, so no worries there

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    Re: Renault 11 F4Rt

    Quote Originally Posted by i l k e r View Post
    I take that as a compliment, thank you

    I'm running full set of Leda coilovers with ally top mounts and 300lb/ft eibach springs mate, so no worries there


    pics ???

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    Re: Renault 11 F4Rt

    just a little update, I decided engine was sitting to close to chassis legs on both sides and now they're both cut off

    I removed two chassis legs off another R11 from a scrapyard and I will be welding them about 2 inches apart from the original locations.

    If I fail the car will be pretty much useless and will be scrapped

    pics to follow soon.......

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    Re: Renault 11 F4Rt

    you're crazy, there was loads of space, will it still steer?

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    Re: Renault 11 F4Rt

    definatley looked like there was loadsa room

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    Re: Renault 11 F4Rt

    it looked like there was enough space, but once I aligned the engine in place there wasn't enough space to put bottom pulley on

    I'm a very dangerous man with an angle grinder

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    Re: Renault 11 F4Rt

    Quote Originally Posted by Andrew Cooke View Post
    will it still steer?
    I bloody hope so

    I'm going for a full meggy 225 front end so fingers and toes crossed

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    Re: Renault 11 F4Rt

    Very nice project. I have been thinking of this also a couple years ago.
    Here's another pic:
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    Re: Renault 11 F4Rt

    Quote Originally Posted by Kenny_GTT View Post
    Very nice project. I have been thinking of this also a couple years ago.
    Here's another pic:

    that engine looks like a 172 engine to me. Take a look at the cam pulleys

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    Re: Renault 11 F4Rt

    Quote Originally Posted by Kenny_GTT View Post
    Very nice project. I have been thinking of this also a couple years ago.
    Here's another pic:

    Good luck!

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    Re: Renault 11 F4Rt

    Quote Originally Posted by i l k e r View Post
    that engine looks like a 172 engine to me. Take a look at the cam pulleys
    nah, look at the oil filler cap

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    Re: Renault 11 F4Rt

    Quote Originally Posted by Andrew Cooke View Post
    nah, look at the oil filler cap

    I actually did. Those cam pulleys definetely not 225 items though.

    Maybe he swapped the cams with 172 ones to get a wilder(n/a) profile, who knows?

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    Re: Renault 11 F4Rt

    they are not 172 camshafts in the black car, they look like vernier's on the end of 225-fitment camshafts.

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    Re: Renault 11 F4Rt

    Good luck with this, should be an interesting thread!! Be nice cruising about in a 225 R11 with 6 gears

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    Re: Renault 11 F4Rt

    Quote Originally Posted by Ashy View Post
    Good luck with this, should be an interesting thread!! Be nice cruising about in a 225 R11 with 6 gears
    thanks mate. Can't wait for that day

    I've just won these on ebay:


    http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.d...m=220411054582

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    Re: Renault 11 F4Rt

    Your location is cypres ?? and those brakes are collection only in birmingham ? Am i missing summit lol..

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    Re: Renault 11 F4Rt

    Quote Originally Posted by TURBO'D CLIO View Post
    Your location is cypres ?? and those brakes are collection only in birmingham ? Am i missing summit lol..

    contacts, my dear friend

    there's a very kind genteleman on here who's going to pick them up for me

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    Re: Renault 11 F4Rt

    Quote Originally Posted by i l k e r View Post
    contacts, my dear friend

    there's a very kind genteleman on here who's going to pick them up for me
    We like people like that , good luck with the project !

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    Re: Renault 11 F4Rt

    will you use a 225 subframe and steering rack? Have you read about and understood bumpsteer?

    is there a Megane/Laguna with 5 stud 238mm rear disk? Or are they all bigger (checked, think they are all bigger) Maybe you can turn one down??

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    Re: Renault 11 F4Rt

    Quote Originally Posted by Andrew Cooke View Post
    will you use a 225 subframe and steering rack? Have you read about and understood bumpsteer?

    is there a Megane/Laguna with 5 stud 238mm rear disk? Or are they all bigger (checked, think they are all bigger) Maybe you can turn one down??

    not sure what subframe/steering rack to use yet Andy. I need to get everything together and see what options I will have. it seems like full 225 setup will be easier to keep things near o.e setup.

    I remember checking the rears and they are all bigger. I think I'll leave the rear end alone for the time being.

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    Re: Renault 11 F4Rt

    Quote Originally Posted by i l k e r View Post
    contacts, my dear friend

    there's a very kind genteleman on here who's going to pick them up for me
    Get in, small world hey... Great project thou bud.. top job...

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    Re: Renault 11 F4Rt

    Quote Originally Posted by Andrew Cooke View Post
    Have you read about and understood bumpsteer?

    I have now. I love the way you point me in the right direction all the time

    top darts chief

    lower models of the same shape have a manual rack which seems like the same overall dimesions with the 225 pas rack

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    Re: Renault 11 F4Rt

    update

    both chassis legs have been cut and new ones welded in place to make more room in the engine bay

    now I have all the room in the world to whack the engine in there

    sorry about the crappy phone pics.
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    Re: Renault 11 F4Rt

    a little more progress, my Leda coilovers and Megane uprights machined to fit together.....
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    Re: Renault 11 F4Rt

    yuppiii!

    my missing driveshaft got delivered today after months of hunting

    just awaiting delivery on engine and gearbox mounts so I can secure the engine in it's place and then its all downhill for me

    watch this space

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    Re: Renault 11 F4Rt

    Looking good so far!

    Do you know the spec of the ledas?

    Are they sufficient for 300lb springs ?

    Im looking at having mine revalved, although im dubious that GAZ [new owners] will do a good enough job ;/

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    Re: Renault 11 F4Rt

    right, driveshafts on and engine is roughly sitting in position;




    this is roughly where the wheel will sit, it's about 3.5" wider and is sitting about 2.5" forward than the 11s std setup;





    once I recieve engine and box mounts I'll secure the engine in its exact location and start working on the suspension setup

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    Re: Renault 11 F4Rt

    looking sweet ilker , good job mate
    hoping to run it this summer then ??

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    Re: Renault 11 F4Rt

    Quote Originally Posted by Schakal View Post
    looking sweet ilker , good job mate
    hoping to run it this summer then ??
    cheers Evren

    yeah that's the plan, but sometimes it's hard for me to get parts and delivery takes ages but yes hopefully I'll get it running in april-May

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    Re: Renault 11 F4Rt

    finally some progress


    the car is now sitting on it's feet with the whole Megane 225 setup.

    I now need to fabricate some sort of a subframe where I can mount the wishbones and the streering rack on as the stock 11 subframe is not useable/suitable anymore

    I will need a fellow member with a Megane 225 to get a measurement for me if possible. I need to know the distance between the rear locating bolts of the wishbones from side to side.

    So anyone with a Megane 225 please help as there's none here that I can get measurements from

    so, it's good to see my beloved car on it's feet again

    pics will follow as soon as I get some

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    Re: Renault 11 F4Rt

    its about time you mad Turk

    get some pics up

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    Re: Renault 11 F4Rt

    ***update***

    well after struggling with excessive negative camber with the Meggy 225 setup, the angle grinder had to come out to play

    first I removed the strut tower getting it ready to be relocated, it had to move about 4,5cm outwards and about 2,5cm towards the front of the car to give me room for some caster adjustment:









    after lots of cutting and cleaning I relocated the strut tower to it's rough position and tack welded it to get some measurements. It looks like I managed to get what I wanted at first dibs, lucky if you ask me

    result, this is the minimum camber I can get with lots of room to dial as much as negative camber one will ever want/need:


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    Re: Renault 11 F4Rt

    some more pics,

    I removed the remaining panels that were in the way, it's now much easier to work with...





    well, the engine is in, got enough room on the strut towers for camber/caster adjustment but now that everything is in place I can see that there's no room for a steering rack

    more head scratching needed


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    Re: Renault 11 F4Rt

    I may have to do something similar to this for a steering rack;



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