Welcome To The New Site

[R5MJH]

Mick,

Stop all thoughts of going backward! If there are problems to resolve, then I'm
pretty sure most can be fixed. The new site looks and functions well, so no more
talk of regression.

If there are some PHP issues, I _may_ be able to help. I run a big web site in it
and also run a phpBB Forum on it - only a tiny one by comparison, but it's still
the same language.

The text-spacing issues can/should be fixed by one command in the body tag
of the main CSS file, rather than trying to fix a myriad other tags in several
specialised CSS files. I use this...

body { background: #BCF2C9 url(../image/hband7.jpg) fixed; color: #007; font: 100%/1.25 Verdana,Arial,Helvetica, etc... 

The operative bit is 100%/1.25 - that sets a ratio that any browser can work with.

Two suggestions for your future list:

1. The dimensions of our avatars needs to be amended upward from
   the present 80 x 80 pixels - that way, when they get enlarged they don't go blurry.
   I'd suggest that we go to a 6 by 4 ratio, so 120px by 80px or 150px by 100px.
   This makes creating avatars from bigger pictures much easier for peeps to do.
2. Is there a difficulty with increasing the number of {video] tags we can have
   in one post? Currently, the limit is 1, but I have a series of them (7 out of 9) outlining
   my entire rebuild experience which I'd like to place into post 1 of my thread.

Currently, I have two articles waiting to go into the Detailing Reference section.
I'll not upload them until my permissions are sorted. You probably have more
than enough on your plate.

If there's any way I can help...

Regards,
Steve

having lots of problems with my vermin internet atm so cant get on but I had this problem yesterday, bth steve, because we had to upgrade to php 5.4 to get vb423 to work this has caused all the problems, I was simply offering everyone a get out back to 3.7 as theres so many problems here, bth the main boards all work as they should its all the custom php that scoff originally created that's the problem, as you know vb is only the forum part all the live page and other parts external php are custom, created in 5.2.17 php, could you pm me your email so I can send you the additional css script? not sure your line will work but maybe worth a try? im going to get coder to re do custom php then the site will function 100% apart from the iphone I believe on full style, regarding the avatars that will not work what you said ive already tried it lol

but there another addon that Ill probably use instead as it much clearer


I did this because I didn't want to let them down as I promised march, maybe not such a good idea eh??

Ill try and sort your permissions in a while but tbh im drained atm but ill sort it out for you for sure

regards mick

[Lowiepete]

Mick,

It's natural that you're feeling drained. All good things come to those who wait.
You have put a whole load of very tech work into this, so no-one should be under
any illusion that this was easy!

The basic site works, with (very!) minor irritations than can be sorted. So, take a
breath - enjoy some sunshine for a while - and let your brain repair from all that
blur of code. This is probably the worst time to try to titivate - yeah, we've waited
a while but it can only get better from here.

It's time to relax for a while, there's no panic.

I'll PM you. If it helps, I run easyPHP on my machine. I wanna hear that you went and
walked the dog or some-such first...

Regards,
Steve

[R5MJH]

god the live on mobile skin woks on my 5 steve do you know php?

if you want i can give you temp access to my dev3 test site in the admin panel then you can look at the templates yourself but if your only compitent enough boss and thx what you said means alot it took 4 months solid of sorting stuff to get to here. not the coding side but other stuff

mick

[Lowiepete]

...but if your only compitent enough

Well, I have a reasonable grip - it'll take me a while to get my head around the
"assembly" bits, where all sorts of weird and wonderful things can catch you.

These "Scoff" files, are they based on an ancient database?

I took a quick look at the source code on a random page and there's .css files
all over the shop. I understand the desire to only load relevant CSS, but do any
of the later loadings countermand existing instructions? That's gonna take a
while for someone new to figure out, but I'm happy to have a no-changes
scout on what I maybe could do.

If it's within reason, it would be good to have some skins that reflect the R5
colour choices back in the day - so, tungy grey or electric blue anyone?
But that's for the future...

Regards,
Steve

[R5MJH]

scoffs files dont use the database except the live page, all the custom pages are older php thats why they don't work correctly i sorted them to visual look working by adding php to every <? as the pages were not displaying at all, scoff was very clever and uses a custom header that routes through vb

beleive me its a maze of code, as i said vb is only really the forum tab all others are custom except shop which is totally seperate
you could take a look at the templates but they are a mind field too

[Lowiepete]

beleive me its a maze of code

Just one look at how the eventual HTML comes together told me that
so, I'm under no illusions.

Where I'm at, at present, is the transfer of all on my desktop in Win 7 over to
Win10 on a new laptop. That'll take me a day or three.

Once done, what I'd like to do is an FTP download to my machine where I can play
at will, before making _any_ changes or do any damage!

I have one further question...
Are there any history notes within the modified files. I need to warn you that
I come from an "old-school" of programmers who likes things tidy. I'm not that
bothered about speeeling or grammmmer, but good structure in the outcome is not
negotiable.

What I often see is what I call "lazy programming" and I can get quite angry.
The maxim that tidy work produces tidy results still holds true, at least for
this old-timer

What I see from modern stuff is too much reliance on 3rd party test routines.
So, for a future proofing exercise, it might be a good idea to have a changes
file and an annotation system where, for example, if a routine is intended as
just a "temp workaround" or more accurately, a fudge, then it's recorded for
others to take a look at and improve, if possible.

I understood that VB is a paid-for service, rather than the phpBB system that's
free. So, I'm a bit taken aback at how untidy the eventual HTML comes out.
I'm absolutely no expert on this, but it looks like some basics, as I've always
understood them, have been abandoned. Perhaps that marks me out as being
just too old-fashioned.

Look at it in terms of a wiring-loom, sometimes it's better to follow the diagram
that's been tested to destruction by experts.

I'm quite happy to look at this, and if time allows have a bit of a tidy-up.
What I don't want to do, and I must emphasise this, is take over. I'm no longer
a youngster with a bright future ahead of me, but if a good tidying will help
a future process of "succession planning", then I'm happy to try and help, if
I can.

Regards,
Steve

[R5MJH]

easier if I duplicate it tom somewhere on server that way it dont matter if ya feck it ill pm ya tom sometime

got coder looking tom so the external mods maybe done but ya welcome to look at rest ill partial admin ya so you can look at the internal stuff

mick

[R5MJH]

just adding fb link it will be next to user name in top right corner

also found some holes in the blog system but ive plugged then pmsl

[Matt Cole]

Steve,

If you can at least help with 1 item of the website, mick might start detailing his car!

[R5MJH]

Steve,

If you can at least help with 1 item of the website, mick might start detailing his car!

no chance

[Lowiepete]

If you can at least help with 1 item of the website, mick might start detailing his car!

Matt, that "I dislike this post" button is so very tempting for misuse -

no chance

Damn Mick, you know to break an old man's heart...





...there's me, trying to make it look all so easy too

Regards,
Steve

[J$£5GTT]

Like this,good work !!

[R5MJH]

ok guys very strange my iphone 5 is now working the full style correctly as it does on my computer and looks the nutz, this worked for me

1 on mobile select mobile style
2 click into any post to read
3 change to full style

[Matt Cole]

Mick as stated a few posts back, I tested on android, I phone and I pad. All worked ok in both skin styles.

I guess it's just tweaking and tidying now to get various bits fixed or upgraded as we go.

[R5MJH]

it's working fully matt now and tbh i do remember testing it and all was fine, I think when I accidentally fecked the server this caused the problem amd now they fixed it, it's working 100% correct on my iPhone except the known external links on external pages well thats 95% working now so i did a grand job in my eyes

[James5]

Mick quick one, not sure if its me or the drugs I am on but has the file section vanished?

[R5MJH]

currently its off i could put back on for downloading but as you know you cant upload?

[Matt Cole]

Put it back on mick. We need to test.

[R5MJH]

james has tested it wont upload but ill put back on

[Trevhib]

[Trevhib]

Mick. Is there a 'posts in the last 24hrs' and 'posts in the last week' buttons? They were my bread and butter on the old site.

Edit: I realise there is the "new posts" and "today's posts'' buttons but neither quite do the same as last 24hrs. And there are no buttons to cover the weekly option.

[Matt Cole]

Mick. Is there a 'posts in the last 24hrs' and 'posts in the last week' buttons? They were my bread and butter on the old site.

Edit: I realise there is the "new posts" and "today's posts'' buttons but neither quite do the same as last 24hrs. And there are no buttons to cover the weekly option.

Just found the today's posts button!

[R5MJH]

ok coders done work so i just need to test it now then move it across to here that should then be everything working ill add more new features once back from hols

[Lowiepete]

... once back from hols

Have a good'un Mick, you've earned it

Regards,
Steve

[R5MJH]

thanx stevie only dorset n devon as other half had stroke and she cant fly atm

might take lappy with me lol

[R5MJH]

ok files working now and all links on the site ease where, proper quote box on live page to now, so thats nearly it

ill add some other bits later

also soon you will be able to login with your email address if you prefer

[R5MJH]

ok all done thanx dave your a gent

new whats new tab next to home which show recent activity

[Trevhib]

Cool.

The activity page shows you when people add files to their albums

[R5MJH]

files works now trev and everything else too, its shows everything trev

last fix was to get avatars to appear in profile and activity page

lucky i knows a great coder

still loads of stuff to add when im on hols

[Trevhib]

Awesome Mick

[Trevhib]

Can we please have a tab for the 'Articles' in the top menu alongside the forum tab? The only way I can see to get to articles atm is via the homepage or navigating to it from the forum homepage (where it's quite far down the list of sections).

[Trevhib]

Would it be good to have a direct link to the 'Dialogys' section in the top menu too? I think this is a brilliant area of the site which is currently tucked away as a sub-section of the 5 GT Turbo forum.

[Trevhib]

Mick, any chance of the above two things? They should be simple tweaks. The only reasons I can think of not to do this are:

- will adding another two tabs to the top menu cause problems for mobile users?? There seems to be plenty of room on my phone.
- Dialogys is for the GTT and RTOC is supposed to be for all Turbo Renaults, so should IT be tucked away in the 5 GT Turbo forum. I don't think this is a big deal. Everybody knows this club is GTT focused and I can't see anyone complaining.

[R5MJH]

Mick, any chance of the above two things? They should be simple tweaks. The only reasons I can think of not to do this are:

- will adding another two tabs to the top menu cause problems for mobile users?? There seems to be plenty of room on my phone.
- Dialogys is for the GTT and RTOC is supposed to be for all Turbo Renaults, so should IT be tucked away in the 5 GT Turbo forum. I don't think this is a big deal. Everybody knows this club is GTT focused and I can't see anyone complaining.

sorry been away so didn't see your request it will be possible but I may need to remove 1 at some point as I still need to install some addons when I get time and they need tabs

vb4 tab bar is not collapsible so makes a real mess if theres to many

also while im here anyone that doesn't see the correct view on a iphone needs to select the vb4 default skin in the style selection on the bottom left to see the correct skin

so do you want me to add these tabs?

[Trevhib]

All good mate.

Yeah, I would, that would be great. If you have to remove one in the future perhaps Blogs could go, there's nothing in there.

[Lowiepete]

The addition of Blogs to the site means that people can log details of their P+J
and share their experiences without the thread getting lost in the morass.
The reason that there are none presently is that probably not a lot of people
know how or why to use them, though for me the 10 pics per post limit keeps
getting in the way.

I've started a blog to show what can be done, though I'm hoping that the
10 pics limit can be upped to 20. The main benefit with blogs is that the images
come up at full size straight away.

I'll be adding more posts later...

Regards,
Steve

[Trevhib]

Fair enough, let's see if it begins to be utilised. Hopefully removing tabs won't be required.

[R5MJH]

tabs done for the moment guys

[Matt Cole]

much better!

[Trevhib]

Boom Thanks, looks spot on

[Lowiepete]

Hi Mick,

Can the limit of 10 pictures (which includes smilies ) in the blogs be
extended to 20? Pictures called with the [img] tag are on a remote server,
so don't impact the local server. So why it's so restrictive is curious...

The blog post character limit is just 10k, again, can this be doubled-up to 20k?
The problem with the character count is that it includes all URLs which for some
reason are almost twice as long as hitherto. Trying to cut back posts to meet the
limit does make trying to keep the context quite difficult.

Cheers if you can help

Once I've broken the back of my transfer, I'll write a guide on what the blogs
are intended for and how to use them here. It's not all that intuitive, but that's
VB for you

Regards,
Steve

[R5MJH]

Hi Mick,

Can the limit of 10 pictures (which includes smilies ) in the blogs be
extended to 20? Pictures called with the [img] tag are on a remote server,
so don't impact the local server. So why it's so restrictive is curious...

The blog post character limit is just 10k, again, can this be doubled-up to 20k?
The problem with the character count is that it includes all URLs which for some
reason are almost twice as long as hitherto. Trying to cut back posts to meet the
limit does make trying to keep the context quite difficult.

Cheers if you can help

Once I've broken the back of my transfer, I'll write a guide on what the blogs
are intended for and how to use them here. It's not all that intuitive, but that's
VB for you

Regards,
Steve

smilies may be a problem they don't appear in a lot of places the coder had to make a plugin for the latest posts in forum view as it wouldn't work there either ill look into other stuff its possible just need to fine the settings as there in different places, ill report back

what categories do we need in blogs ill set it up??


EDIT try the images now 20 and content is 20k

[Lowiepete]

what categories do we need in blogs ill set it up??

Categories can be set by users, though it may need explaining.
The same with tags content, though you need care before posting as
it doesn't look like you can either choose them, or change them after
the post has been confirmed...

Regards,
Steve

[R5MJH]

im just rebuilding the search index so it works correctly

this takes hours so it wont work for a while

[Trevhib]

[R5MJH]

search feature now fully functional took 4 hrs to run lol

[Trevhib]

Nice one Mick.

Tbh this migration has been a lot smoother than I thought it would be. All the effort upfront really paid off

[JOSHIEEBOII94]

Loving the new site 😃. Great work 👏

[R5MJH]

more stuff done

people can now directly register from rtoc.org a problem brought to my attention by ian and matt

rtoc.jpg


also fixed the forgot password that didnt work on there

[Matt Cole]

Mick, that button stands out like a boil on the nose!