Finished conversion but need to see what wheel alignment is like and where i need to add shims
Finished conversion but need to see what wheel alignment is like and where i need to add shims
front Jacking points on the 5 have deteriorated due to an old cage that was fitted and the holes not filled or sealed correctly so over time they have eaten away so getting them cut out and new jacking points fabricated and welded up. I also decided to get my rear tailgate badges refurbished again.
refurbed badge
Welding looks good. I need to finish my other 5's welding this year.
lucky i didn't get cage absolute bargain
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you are tooOriginally Posted by Goobie
James is a top guy, it's gone to a good home.
wish ya got your fecking 5 done james just rebuilt a red 5 and sold in 2 months from scratch
Just needed paintwork but that was it goobs
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Awesome work on the 172 hub conversion. I too have had all the parts for a while now (six years I think?). I saw a Swiss guy do the conversion first and thought, as you have, the benefits are well worth the effort.
I'm planning on a wide track front too, so I'd probably space the stub axles out to match the front at the same time.
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How you get on with the door trim? Do the bars clear it?
Remember, - Pictures or never happened!
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Gonna do the 172 front hub swap at some point. May as well do the same at the back!
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Gonna do the 172 front hub swap at some point. May as well do the same at the back!
I was tempted with the front as I have all that also but was concerned with what I would need to do to get all the camber correct. At present I just run valver similar hubs to gtt just big bearings and abs ports
It's making new drive shafts James that bothers me. I cant be bothered!Are you using longer shafts and wishbones with the 16v hubs? I would do straight bolt on stuff if that was possible?
Valver hubs are the same length as the gtt ones :-) only difference is abs rings. I forget you use the meg boxIt's making new drive shafts James that bothers me. I cant be bothered!
Yeah I'm using gt hubs though. So if the valver hubs are same apart from bigger bearing I might get a set and swap over.
You should use 172 hubs and 172 driveshaft cv as there a lot stronger than the Gtt shafts cv, as the 172 spline cv are bigger too,
James where did you learn to weld that looks spot on👍Some more update pic's, jacking point welding all done, just need to seal and that, going to get the cage brackets welded into the car tomorrow
Few more pic's now cage is fully in, few mods to carpet and interior plastic's to allow it to all fit nice
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Final pic for today
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It looks the business in there!
I see ya used the Allen bolts, looks a lot tidier with them.
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Looking great James. Some cage that. Are you happy/safe with your harness connection to the bar?
Cage is awesome am well happy with the straps being in the brace, they are properly welded in place and the bar is solid.
Just had my retrieve badges back and now fitted, it's coming on nicely just need to replace the gearbox now as pod made it really noisey on idle. I have a spare box to go in just the lack of time.
I'll upload some pics later
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Well the time has come to sell the car on I fancy a change for now so this will be up for sale in the next few weeks
Another change to the gtt
Had my bonnet louvred in places I wanted
Looks good. Where did you get that done mate? Was it pricey?
The guy that used to run the company cool louveres back in the day lives in Crawley he kept all the equipment and does it on the side now cost me £140 and you can have the louveres in different sizes where ever you want. (i had it sprayed elswhere)
Looks really well
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Love the louvred bonnet look! I did have one quite a few years ago but sold it. They are subtle and functional. Really suits your car 👍
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Small update decided to get the car mapped again, had to stop mapping at 364bhp @21psi mapper said my cams needs dialling, in said loads more still to give but wants the cams done before goes further. Should be back for mapping again in the next few weeks.
No major changes other than plate change really, injectors and exhaust manifold are going to be holding the setup back
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Excellent numbers
What gains are you expecting once the cams are dialed?
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Love it James!!
Could the mapper not adjust your cams? Shame really as you have adjustable pulleys. I run VVT on mine and have an adjustable exhaust cam. The idea being i can adjust the ex quickly when the VVT is engaged for optimal lift.
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Cheers, unfortunately he wouldn't touch the cams :-( getting them dialled in next week, one of my friends runs a local Alfa Romeo garage and has the equipment to dial in so is going to do it next week, hopefully get it back up for mapping in the next few weeksLove it James!!
Could the mapper not adjust your cams? Shame really as you have adjustable pulleys. I run VVT on mine and have an adjustable exhaust cam. The idea being i can adjust the ex quickly when the VVT is engaged for optimal lift.
It's currently on low boost we are going to keep going until the injectors max out or the exhaust manifold holds it backExcellent numbers
What gains are you expecting once the cams are dialed?
That’s some result James! Triple the standard cj1 power and still chasing for more, lol.
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Nice bit of f4r power James!!!
More of a mental note for me this really -
The 172 / 182 VVT setup is a simple on / off system, therefore on the 420d / 440 universal ecu's you just setup and aux output based on RPM (no wastegae functions is required), I will add the VVT details shortly
Yes although i trigger mine on MAP.
You using the map2 function? any more details or screenshots from WARI as to how? Is the VVT on f4r 225 as the f4r 172 / 182?Yes although i trigger mine on MAP.
First start, still using my F7 map with no mods, no exhaust, no icv fitted. not even got timing gun out yet either
https://youtu.be/g9rZVPC1jBQ
I trigger the solenoid on aux out , roughly at 85kpa. I use a 172 head James mated to a 225 block and run lower compression. It's to try and get my big blower spooling. I also run a 197 exhaust cam.
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Well it's up and running currently done 79 miles on the car, doing aload of mapping myself will book on the pro mapper to finish it off.
Even added a splitter to the GTT (Already caught it twice)
Awesome 👍
Another great install James. What have you done to retain the standard bonnet?
I picked up a full 182 engine this week to strip and rebuild for a turbo conversion, so any pointers will be welcomed
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Hi only had to modify the front engine mount itself to lower the engine 30mm, this gave me enough clearance for OE bonnet to fit, downside is that engine mount is solid and i can eel it through the car, all the other mounts are vibra jobs.
You will need to back convert the 182 to phase 1 inlet of get a phase 1 TB and drill and tap the phase 2 inlet to accept it. Then you can have cable throttle. Quiet a straight forward conversion, dephaser and belt are easy don't let anyone scare you that they are a pain, you do need the correct tools though, oh and change the crank pulley to the megane 225 version as it has woodruff key. All pulley on the 172 / 182 are just floating (Scary thought really)
Wish I had taken a pic of the bottom end open as I run a forged crank in this engine aswell
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Well it's up and running currently done 79 miles on the car, doing aload of mapping myself will book on the pro mapper to finish it off.
Even added a splitter to the GTT (Already caught it twice)
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