James5 with Yet another GTT

[James5]

Fingers crossed and prey


i'm sure the RTOC Community will be with you in spirit when you turn the key

Well I actually got it started still doesn't sound great, have had a look at the flywheel and ideally it could do with replacing (job to do when engine next comes out) I had to ditch the starter locating dowel was pushing the starter to hard against the flywheel, in the end I had to move the starter motor as far to rear of engine and as high as I could get it and then bolt it up.

I also finished a few niggly bits this morning, just awaiting the air filter ducting pipe to arrive still, and I still need to fit the turbo actuator to the wastegate (Pain in the arse to get the retaining C-clip on) but that's it mechanically for now I hope.

Well it kinda started LOL its progress anyway

ECU now back at mine so I can look at the triggers settings and crank positons.

[danr5Gtt]

Great to hear James, can't believe you ditched me dowel lol

see you at Pod mate

[James5]

Well few more issues the oil cooler decided to split :-( whilst cranking over so I lost a fair bit of oil :-( (shame the oil cooler has covered less than 600 miles and a few pod runs).

Never mind bought new one of ebay thankfully the sellers business premises is 15mins from me so got it quick and now fitted.

Also noted this eve when I popped over to do a few minor thing's that 2 pins on the ecu plugs were not going into the ecu correctly sorted that out turned the key and it starts, sounds tappety and sounded like running on 3 but at least it's now working :-)

[R5MJH]

james this is the beat news ive heard all day and u know what my day was like

get it ready for pod now if u get the time as ya still not fully recovered yet

still god james

[James5]

Noisey lifters but hopefully will settle



Only few things to sort,

Rev counter does't seem to be working anymore so will check connections, also need to work out why if I hold the revs at around 2000rpm's it say 100% cut on the injectors line

[R5MJH]

well done james its alive and done its first trip to brighton

cant wait for pod now

my fat @rse fits in the Monaco's too

[James5]

well done james its alive and done its first trip to brighton

cant wait for pod now

my fat @rse fits in the Monaco's too

Covered 44 miles in the ole girl lifters nice and quiet now, only 2 small issues, but nothing major, throttle cable gets stuck and holds revs at 3000rpm's, the car dies on idle when coming up to any fecking junction (software related going to have a read on how to adjust idle via software).

Other than that all good All fluids at correct levels forgot how hot these engine's run

[R5MJH]

Covered 44 miles in the ole girl lifters nice and quiet now, only 2 small issues, but nothing major, throttle cable gets stuck and holds revs at 3000rpm's, the car dies on idle when coming up to any fecking junction (software related going to have a read on how to adjust idle via software).

Other than that all good All fluids at correct levels forgot how hot these engine's run

kin hell the heat of the back of the engine was unreal, couldn't be more happy for you jim

just don't roll this 1 what bhp do you recon it would be running now?

[turbo ted]

Covered 44 miles in the ole girl lifters nice and quiet now, only 2 small issues, but nothing major, throttle cable gets stuck and holds revs at 3000rpm's, the car dies on idle when coming up to any fecking junction (software related going to have a read on how to adjust idle via software).

Other than that all good All fluids at correct levels forgot how hot these engine's run

You can adjust the old skool way at throttle body like on a carb James

[Goobie]

Good good James, no reason not to see it at the Brighton meet!

Ps, Come on Mick, taking your time with Freddy aren't you........

[Jeff Ninebar]

Glad to hear its up and running now James, will you drive it up to pod now?

[James5]

Glad to hear its up and running now James, will you drive it up to pod now?

Jeff the plan is to take the ole girl noticed a couple of leaks this morning, gear selctor C clip seems to be missing Hoping Someone may be able to take one or have spare for me at pod.

And the fecking fuel tank has a leak aswell

[kial]

Jeff the plan is to take the ole girl noticed a couple of leaks this morning, gear selctor C clip seems to be missing Hoping Someone may be able to take one or have spare for me at pod.

And the fecking fuel tank has a leak aswell

Is it leaking from the bung on the side?

[James5]

Couple of pic's, this is how she has sat since the retro day, hopefully pull my finger out this week and get the engine out sort the crank seals, sort the turbo oil, replace the turbo rear housing for the bigger .86 I got from Arthur (Tutuur) many thanks buddy, replace the OS drive-shaft, modify the down pipe mating flange to sidey exit so it doesn't catch on everything. Ohh and replace the gearbox C clip as well (Many thanks Mike aka phase i 16v turbo)

Also picked up some mint turbines and had my goodyear eagle f1 tyres put onto them all but now not sure I am keen on them on my 5. (so they maybe on sale be up for a little more than I paid seeing as they have almost brand new tyres on now)

[JRP]

My old car looks good, how much jim bob for le turbines

[Tutuur]

Why are you replacing the C clip mate? Has it popped out before?

[James5]

Why are you replacing the C clip mate? Has it popped out before?

not the big C clip which you see when you pull drive shaft out ( i welded that one in)no this is the little one under the gearbox which selector rod goes on it's the first time it's popped out Mike has sent me a new white thing and the C clip to hold in place

[James5]

My old car looks good, how much jim bob for le turbines

Cheers Jerps tried to keep it std looking exterior wise

[Tutuur]

Ah, completely forgot! The one you lost on your way down from Pod

[James5]

Well yet again some bad news this eve not what I was expecting I ordered a brand new .86 rear housing yesterday and I thought I would strip the rear housing of my current turbo GT28r down ready for the new one only to find the blades damaged:-( the turbo looks perfect from the outside on the fins. Think this must have been like this before I got it considering we drove like grannies to santa pod and I was only boosting max of 3psi.

So that's 2 x GT series turbo's now paperweights,

So I decided to take the plunge and this eve ordered a brand new genuine garrett GT2871r from germany with the .86 rear, I also ordered a set of Deka 630cc injectors. This should be with me mid next week, in the meantime I will replace the crank seals and get it all ready to go back in with the new bits when they arrive.

Ill get some pic's of turbo tomorrow

[R5MJH]

this is shite news james, it seems not all people are not genuine when they sell there stuff, u will at least know this is proper as its new like mikes, your luck with this car has been 2nd to none james nothings gone right at all, this will put u on the right path now anyways, your injectors are similiar to mikes 650cc ones

[JRP]

Fido' curse it seems

[James5]

Fido' curse it seems

Does seem a bit like that

[Tutuur]

Wonder how the oe ignition system will cope, better bring all your wasted spark stuff along to Scoff might it be a problem

[James5]

Wonder how the oe ignition system will cope, better bring all your wasted spark stuff along to Scoff might it be a problem

I was going to install it all again when engine goes back in :-)

OE ignition system should be fine though if you look at Armajits setup

[James5]

Well decided not to go to the surrey meet this eve but to spend some time on the 5, so I have now replaced both crank seals, replaced the flywheel for another clio 172 / 182 jobbie, torqued everything up, fitted the cam belt and set the tension, fitted re-useable PTFE cam cover gasket and ptfe TB gasket, I have the inlet to fit but no point until engine is in the car. The only reason I have used these gaskets is the fact they are re-usable.

http://www.powergaskets.co.uk/#!renault/cnjq

Looks like I need to source a decent exhaust manifold gasket as the new one I have on would appear to be blowing in several locations (no bother as engine out of the car is an easy task.

Engine is now awaiting the arrival of the new GT2871r before I can put it back in the car (Then I will have to drill out the mounting holes to M10 size).

[Trevhib]

Labour of love this

Often in the past I've seen problem cars finally tamed through bloody perseverance, only for the owner to sell it on, cause of the pain of the process. I hope you see this through to fruition and then enjoy those fruits of your labour James.

[JRP]

Well decided not to go to the surrey meet this eve but to spend some time on the 5, so I have now replaced both crank seals, replaced the flywheel for another clio 172 / 182 jobbie, torqued everything up, fitted the cam belt and set the tension, fitted re-useable PTFE cam cover gasket and ptfe TB gasket, I have the inlet to fit but no point until engine is in the car. The only reason I have used these gaskets is the fact they are re-usable.

http://www.powergaskets.co.uk/#!renault/cnjq

Looks like I need to source a decent exhaust manifold gasket as the new one I have on would appear to be blowing in several locations (no bother as engine out of the car is an easy task.

Engine is now awaiting the arrival of the new GT2871r before I can put it back in the car (Then I will have to drill out the mounting holes to M10 size).

Keep at it, Bessie loves the attention trust me.

[James5]

Keep at it, Bessie loves the attention trust me.

Bessie

[James5]

Slow progress still awaiting the arrival of the new turbo :-( issues with courier company (DHL).

To save some time I decided to drop the lump in with no turbo attached, I also replaced the OSF driveshaft at this point for a refurbed one the gaitor had a small hole, i also fitted the gearstick spring kit I picked up of Mike some time back aswell. I managed to damage a steering track rod end thread so new one is now on route now aswell :-)

Couple of pics how car stands at mo

[James5]

Some new parts arrived

630cc deka's
turbo drain gasket for a turbo that will eventually arrive from Germany

MOT booked in,
Scoff booked in for mapping

[James5]

New turbo has arrived

[Tutuur]

Lovely mate, now get it running again this weekend!

[James5]

Lovely mate, now get it running again this weekend!

I'll have to try do that before the weekend, Mot booked Saturday morning

[James5]

Not been a good weekend, managed to get the car all back together only to find out that the exhaust manifold gasket that has only covered the drive to and from Santa Pod has blown :-( not sure where I got it from in the first place. So ordered a genuine Renault one from http://www.renaultpartsdirect.co.uk/

Also been thinking about possible heat issues for the master cylinder and brake lines, was looking into turbo blankets but decided against this, and I have a clio turbo heatshield spare so I started to hack it up to fit the R5, plan is to get it to fit nice and then cover it in a heat reflective material to make it looks respectable. Pic attached of it in situ after alot of material has been taken off.

I also had Mick (R5mjh) modify my turbo down pipe mating flange to exhaust as it would catch on everything just cut it off and re-welded it back on 90 deg job done.

[James5]

Can't believe a year to the date I started working on the White 5 GTT, only a year and look how many changes the car has had, unbelievable.

Worked on the car this eve, new exhaust manifold gasket fitted with new copper nut's, fitted the Gt2871r, things left to do replace brake lines with the braided versions I have got and sort this bloody fuel tank leak.

Anyone got a decent std tank available?? that does not leak

[JRP]

Can't believe a year to the date I started working on the White 5 GTT, only a year and look how many changes the car has had, unbelievable.

Worked on the car this eve, new exhaust manifold gasket fitted with new copper nut's, fitted the Gt2871r, things left to do replace brake lines with the braided versions I have got and sort this bloody fuel tank leak.

Anyone got a decent std tank available?? that does not leak

Strange how it's a year and in its place is another white beauty.
I did have that tank changed can't believe it's leaking already..

I'm so happy I sold it to you as you have done the car proud. It looks perfect and I'm sure old Bessie is happy, thanks for getting her finished where I couldn't.

[Goobie]

If your looking to go to the trouble of removing the tank, you may as well just fix the one you got buddy as they all fail at the bung sooner or later.

[James5]

If your looking to go to the trouble of removing the tank, you may as well just fix the one you got buddy as they all fail at the bung sooner or later.

Goobie, thin k you are right I may aswell fix this one with the old soldering iron and plastic trick

[Nottswoody]

Goobie, thin k you are right I may aswell fix this one with the old soldering iron and plastic trick

I need todo mine. Is it a case of just melt it? Is there not something I can buy to smother it with? I'm just worried as the tanks been off and empty a while now..

[Milky]

I always just used the black silicone from Halfords. Never leaked once I sealed it with that 😀 same gear you would use to seal the sump etc

[James5]

Update MOT passed this morning no advisories :-)

Tracking being sorted Monday morning, then mapping on Tuesday

[Tutuur]

Everything coming together now then mate

[Trevhib]

Everything coming together now then mate

Just hold up there, there are a lot of things that could happen between now and Tuesday

Fingers crossed James

[James5]

Just hold up there, there are a lot of things that could happen between now and Tuesday

Fingers crossed James

I know Trev, my main concern is the turbo oil drain sits so close to the driveshaft gaitor on the block I have modified the rtn pipe but still so close.

I really need a custom made alloy turbo oil drain pipe that literally needs to run flush with the block.

[philr5t]

James when my tank was leaking I used fibre glass round the bung and it's still perfect to this day mate

[chunk552]

I have only just got round to reading all this thread great work James and Jeez you move quick with work
I need to speed up

[James5]

Cheer's guy's, I managed to drop the tank enough to allow me good access to the bung, pulled out what must have been an old repair, cleaned it up and I used some Special fuel resistant putty to bung the hole, not sure the leak is fully gone, it's defo from the bung area maybe on the outside rather than the inside of the bung area.

[Trevhib]

At least you know what the issue is for sure and can get to it without too much hassle, even if it takes a few goes to nail it.

[James5]

Well not updated in a while had a few issues, managed to cover 966miles on the engine and on my way to mapping only 59 miles from Scoff's whilst cruising at 65mph after been driving for 4hours with no issues's I suddenly hear a horrible noise from the bottom end luckily I managed to coast the car from the dual carriageway to a service station.

Yes RAC were called. Whilst I was awaiting I took the opportunity to have a KFC at this point my mind was pondering and next thing I had stripped the front end off and managed to get the sump off to have a look at the damage. Yep spun a big end shell