Many thanks Steve, £114 delivered for a pair is pretty good. Do they fit ok, have you
got them on the 5 yet?
Regards
Karl.
Many thanks Steve, £114 delivered for a pair is pretty good. Do they fit ok, have you
got them on the 5 yet?
Regards
Karl.
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Are they solid or hollow?
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That's why I've not let them pass. I've not seen new ones available elsewhere either.Originally Posted by Mr Raider
Well, SKF are a renown bearings manufacturer, so I guess they'll fit. They won't be
going on to the 5 until I get the sub-frame back. However, Karl will be doing a good
comparison check well before that...
From the weight of them, I'd say solid.
As for the differences in diameter, the guys don't see that as a potential problem, many
other drive-shaft pairs apparently don't match either. Something to do with torque transfer
ratio differences, whatever they are. Maybe, finer diameter for shorter length, at a guess
Regards,
Steve
Surprised there is no surcharge on these items, they are still available from SKF.
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Dale, are these OEM pieces then? Why would there be a surcharge?
It looks like they were standard across the range and fitted a few
early Clio and Megane models too.
Regards,
Steve
Surcharge normally for refurbs. Which is what I thought these were, especially if they're solid.
No balance weight on the long shaft though?
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Looking at the SKF automotive catalogue, it looks like there are several parts that
are still available for the R5, just need to find a distributor with stock, I guess...
Regards,
Steve
Thanks Steve, I need to get a pair ordered and for that money seem a bargain, SKF has a great reputation in the world of bearings espicially in terms of quality. Do the shafts appear the same thickness of the driveshafts on the car? Need to buy some just know that I wont be fitting them straight away being the only issue as struggling to find time at the moment.
Regards
Karl.
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Well, they were fitted to 60 tonne rail wagons as well as many locos, and I never
saw a failureWith their reputation, I don't think I'll be too bothered by
minor differences, as long as they fit. I've no reason to doubt that they will.
I'll be able to answer that better once I've been in to see how Karl has got on with
taking the engine out. I'm hoping that we'll get the subframe off to the powder-coaters
very soon.
Regards,
Steve
If the bearings are good enough for 60 tonne wagons and loco's then they'll be just fine on a 5. Reminds me of my time working for an industry specific railway publication and attending Railtex in London a couple of years ago! lol. Ok cool, please let me know.
Regards
Karl.
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Answer = more or less, at least at first sight. Karl will be doing some measuring,
but like you, we trust the brand...
Regards,
Steve
Hello Folks,
Can you guys give an indication of what you're using as heat shields for the
starter motor? Cheers.
Regards,
Steve
I am using a genuine Renault heat shield. Are these no longer available?
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Apparently not - a part #, but no part...
Regards,
Steve
That is annoying. Fabricate something out of stainless that will bolt to existing mounting points maybe?
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I pulled my motor two weeks ago. The starter heat shield looked less healthy than some soggy old cardboard outside for 6 months...
I googled it. Found them on CGB. £35. Bought and paid for. Refunded 3 days later (bank holiday).
Mike had one at £95.
Asked Renault. NLA. Not even the Campus one.
Googled again. Found one. £35. Bought it. Refunded two days later.
Decided to bite the bullet with Mikes. He doesn't have them either.
I have a couple more avenues. But not looking good.
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We have a few metal fabricators in Lowie; seems like there might be a demand
for more than one. I'll make a few enquiries...
Is the HP Starter Shield a viable alternative? It seems very expensive...
Regards,
Steve
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Hello Folks,
Making the best of Thursday's sunshine. Man at work: Karl slowly taking
the engine bay apart...
...all of a sudden, there's bags of room under the bonnet...
There's some rusting around the subframe bolts which Karl has "lubricated"
ready for Monday.
The extent to which the starter motor heat shield has deteriorated
More plastic pieces collected, ready for a good clean...
This last series of pictures illustrate the turbo heat shield that I'm hoping
I can renovate. If anyone has ideas on things like heat-resistant adhesives
and aluminium tape to use, I'm open to ideas.
Apparently, aluminium tape shrinks a bit when subjected to heat.
Regards,
Steve
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Buy a new turbo heat-shield.
Your starter heatshield look better than mine!
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That link may be my best option. I have a brother who can fab but I don't have a good shield for him to copy and I can't get the engine to him for mocking up.
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Do you have the part number for the starter heat shield at all?
I have it, but want to double check!
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Ouch, but done...
Do you want me to send it to you as a pattern?
Eventually, I settled on this from eBay. Tomorrow, I'm going to taking the gearbox
for a beadblast, and I'll probably be taking the exhaust manifold for wrapping too.
Regards,
Steve
...After a Meeting with the Magic Sponge
Hello Folks,
It took an age for them to arrive from China, but my bag of magic sponges
have been invaluable when dealing with very dirty plastics from under the
car's bonnet. We start with air intake duct and a 50/50 of the warning label.
I had already attempted one clean before I resorted to the sponge. It was
barely readable before I started.
Before...
50/50...
After...
The telephone hose.
Before...
After...
Another air guide...
The radiator trim. This was very grubby and it took two goes before I was
happy with it.
Before...
The slowly disintegrating magic sponge, and a glimpse of what I was fetching
off the plastics. The best bit about this? No harsh chemicals, just some warm
water...
Another cowling piece, this is the underside...
...and the top...
Those coming to my detailing day will be able to pick up a brand new product
that I'm trialling. Coming from the ADS stable, it currently goes by the
acronym of H2O-S. With it being a spray-on coating, I thought I'd give the
very fine spray head a try on the two of these pieces. I'm not going to buff
this until it has fully dried.
This is just after spraying...
...and this is about 10 to 15 minutes later...
Overall, not a bad result for about 20 minutes of cleaning, even if I say so
myself
Regards,
Steve
Hello Folks,
The following morning and a quick further buffing, leaves me with this to take
back to the workshop...
There's been a bit more painting done in the hidden places on the car. The
roof has also had its initial blocking completed...
An empty engine bay...
Unlike the new driveshafts, both of the originals have the same shaft diameter
of 35mm...
Sorry for the camera-shake on this one...
There's a fair bit of cleaning work to do on the outside of the engine, before
the head gets removed...
The gearbox is now loaded for delivery to the bead-blaster...
The whole of the water-pump housing is also being treated, so all the aluminium,
apart from the head, will look refurbished...
More booty! The replacement turbo heat shield and a new oil-feed pipe
arrived today, along with a starter heat shield...
One thing that outwardly looks in a bit of a poor way is the fuel pressure regulator.
Is it worth spending £50+ on a new one at this stage?
Regards,
Steve
Nice work on the Heat Shields and Plastics. Looking really good. As for the FPR, they can fail, but it's not that common. I'd be very tempted. If you have the cash and you want the OE look, it's probably worth it?
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Good work Steve, so take it the driveshafts you bought from Mister Auto are not right? what were the diameters on the new ones you bought? Was just about to buy some...
Regards
Karl.
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I've seen multiple stories of failed fpr's here in the Netherlands so wouldn't say it's uncommon
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Hi Karl,
Well, the diameters on the new ones are not the same on each side. Apparently, that's
not uncommon these days, so I won't say the new ones are "wrong" as such. I'll
still be fitting them. I trust in the SKF name enough to not be too bothered. There
won't be any centrifugal force upset, indeed, there'll be a bit of a weight saving.
As for the FPR, well, I chatted to the guy selling them and there might be a problem.
The fuel line to the carburettor on the R5GTT is 6mm internal diameter, whereas on
the replacement FPR the connectors are 8mm. He assures me that he's sold many of
these in the past and not had one returned because it couldn't be fitted.
I'm a bit concerned about this because I'm obviously relying on Karl to do the fitting
for me. I'm not keen on straying from keeping things simple. Bearing in mind the quite
parlous state of the original, I've ordered one in the hope we can resolve this easily.
If anyone else has encountered this, I'd be pleased to hear of your solution...
Regards,
Steve
Can I ask why it is it that you're not just fitting a new water pump?
Great work on the plastics.
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Cheers Matt, these magic sponges are amazing. I'm giving a couple to everyone
who attends my detailing day on Saturday. The water pump is new, it was only
replaced last April - it's the pump backing plate that mostly needs the bead treatment.
Regards,
Steve
Ah I see.
Yes I did see the thread about the valet day.
Found oe heatshield Steve
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/RENAULT-5-...item5d57f48762
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Cheers Karl,
I see that it's already at silly moneyFound oe heatshield SteveThis when you think that I can buy one for
a 1990 Aston Martin for....
...wait for it....
just 18 of our British Pounds
Regards,
Steve
I know that Scoff used run two in parallel on his old C1J as he was paranoid that one might fail. Not sure how much the Malpassi ones are, but they're pretty good quality and a credible alternative to OE.
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Hello Folks,
I took my exhaust manifold and downpipe to Fast Eddys in Naaaaarch, for a bit
of help to stay hot...
That web in the casting across to the turbo mount proved to be a bit of a problem...
...mostly as witnessed here. Trying to trap a piece across without it fraying to pieces
proved too difficult
The new FPR has arrived...
Thankfully, there was just a shrug of acceptance from Karl; I did say he was a man
of few words
Regards,
Steve
Without going too far off topic I thought I would upload some photos of an aftermarket starter motor heatshield. If that is of interest I can find the supplier, looks fairly simple to make one up though. Perhaps a group buy could be arranged and we can stock in the club shop?
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Fitting one of those looks like you mean it!
Regards,
Steve
That looks great, be interested to know if that works still with being metal rather than the material the original one is made from.
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Well, the thickness of the OE one means that there's little or no air gap below,
or between it and the starter. With the stainless steel one there is sufficient gap
to allow an air-flow, so it should be just as effective. It certainly won't disintegrate!
Regards,
Steve
...upon some serious detailing results
Hello Folks,
Remember this..?
Well, it now looks like this...
A bit of camera shake here, I'll re-take this in the morning, before I deliver it
back to Karl...
Remember the water-pump backing plate? So, from this...
to this...
All the cleaning here done by Darren from Suffolk Blast Clean
Now, I have a dilemma. I bought a brand new Valeo water-pump last year
for loadsamoney. It's already looking a bit worse for wear, though that isn't
surprising, bearing in mind just how mucky the cooling system was. I got a
'phone call from Darren last Saturday, telling me he was fearful of not getting
glass beads out of the pump bearings and told me I could replace the pump
for less than he'd charge me for cleaning the Valeo one
So, do I go with a new 18 quid CGBMotorsport special, or stick to my Valeo
one, even if it isn't quite as clean? One will obviously stay as a spare.
Decisions, decisions!
Regards,
Steve
That gearbox looks awesome! Easily mistaken for new if you didn't know.
Car coming long nicely, keep the pictures coming.
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Found the supplier for the starter heatshield, listed at €45. A bargain considering the genuine one went for £120.99 on eBay last night!
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Would members be interested in these if we could obtain for the club shop?
(doesn't help you Steve, sorry!
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That gear box is immaculate! Good find on the cleaning firm Steve. Seem to do a brilliant job.
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Yes, but it is time dependent. Can we obtain them before May 15th?Would members be interested in these if we could obtain for the club shop?
(doesn't help you Steve, sorry!
Can they be retro-fitted, or is it only when the engine comes out?
As for someone paying £127 for one from CGB last night, what were they
thinking? (Don't forget the postage) Their normal price was £95 and that
was already way too much, despite including the postage!
I have very mixed feelings about next Sunday's "For the Love of Cars". Whilst it will
no doubt push up the price of R5GTTs complete (at least OE ones) it'll also embolden
parts suppliers to ask for even greater sums, even for worn tat! It looks like our
hobby is turning from happy boosting into a cheque-book sport
Regards,
Steve
Thanks for the kind comments about the gearbox guys. The next stage is to mask-off
the steel end-cap and repaint it. Then the whole lot will get a blow over with a
satin laquer that should slow down any discolouration. Once re-installed, there _will_
be an undertray fitted, even if we have to fabricate one.
Another small haul of goodies arrives...
Now back to the water-pump dilemma. This is theValeo one that was fitted new this
time last year...
I couldn't get it blasted because of fears around the beads getting into the bearings
So, for the same price as a blasting, here comes a potential replacement. No apparent
outward difference, apart from being clean...
It's when you turn them over that the real source of the dilemma reveals itself...
The impeller on the Valeo pump looks like it'll pump twice as much water as the other
one. Could that be why the water was staying too cool when I was running the car?
Regards,
Steve
The thermostat controls the water temp, the water pump has not effect on this apart from speed of water running around the hoses.
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I'm not unaware of that, but could it be being pumped around too fast?
Regards,
Steve
Hello Folks,
Another parcel arrived today. With my new speakers going in, I thought I'd go
for some more modern equipment to drive them. Nothing over the top mind,
but at least a bit easier to use than a tape-deck. Quite apart from all that,
the original radio has a loose button, so I'm looking to "retire" it before it drops
out and gets lost. The set will still be kept!
So, for me with my gammy hands, an early CD player gives me more playing
options. Then came the fun of finding one. Oh my goodness, the range of
styles is phenomenal, but I hope I've made the right choice. Here it is...
Regards,
Steve
Did any read the translated description? Awesome!
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