J5221 Freshen up

[kial]

Hi guys, recently I did a head gasket change on my 5, all went well its allowed me enough time to set up the fuelling an boost I preferred before giving up again.

It failed whilst I was driving to work (30mph) just started smoking and then misfiring. I left it a couple of weeks and spent this past week looking at projects on here to give me motivation to crack on with mine.

Well today I started, ill let the photos do the rest.

Here's one from when I finished last hg change -





Engine out and on stand




Head of to discover this.. Can anyone explain what causes this? Last hg change I noticed a slight bit of this "pittin" on the head but thought I'd risk it, which ending up biting me in the ass..




Also noticed a slight bit on the piston. Can Someone give me advise on what to do with this ? Replace or will it be ok?



Then gave the block a degrease and a deep steam to get rid of the **** and ready for some paint



Then gave the engine bay steam clean also, so can start work on rust in the bay and also replace steering gaitor and cv boots.





Engine left to soak in diesel and multi-lube to stop rusting or corrosion





That was enough work for today. Car pushed back inside and left till Monday now :-)


Any advice or helpful comments more than welcome. I've never done this kind of work before today was the first time i had removed a engine, so anything constructive would be appreciated.

Would also like to thank Mark Butterworth, Steve light and Mark Galvin on the advise given to help me on understanding so far. You've been great help and a credit to this site

Thanks

Ps is post better bloody work on the time it's take me!

[R5MJH]

looks like youve had some serious det in the past that head looks fecked mate

[kial]

looks like youve had some serious det in the past that head looks fecked mate

What causes this?

Haven't messed with ignition timing only just done my fuelling and used a wideband and the fuelling never dropped below 11.3 on wot?

[R5MJH]

What causes this?

Haven't messed with ignition timing only just done my fuelling and used a wideband and the fuelling never dropped below 11.3 on wot?

thats good mate but it must of been there before hg change or something that heads deffo fecked mate or somethings got in cylinder somehow

[Brigsy]

Looks like its been detting heavily at some point. The head needs a face to be used agsin, might be a new head if loads needs skimming off.

[kial]

Also I forgot to mention, there's a drought of super unleaded over here so I have been using 95 which Steve just me could have set it off..

[kial]

Looks like its been detting heavily at some point. The head needs a face to be used agsin, might be a new head if loads needs skimming off.

What are original measurements on a head mate ? I measured mine up an it was around 73.5ish mm I don't really want to be skimming in case it's already been done in the past? Aliso I personally think the det has gone to deep into the head for skimming

[Brigsy]

You could get away with it at 73mm, standard is 73.5mm. If you skim it any more you could open up the squish area. If you dont want to skim its new head time matey

[kial]

Cool bud. Most likely going to get a head mate, what about the piston? Will I get away withit or need renewing also?

[Brigsy]

The det marks in piston arent ideal but you will get away with it mate

[markey b]

Also I forgot to mention, there's a drought of super unleaded over here so I have been using 95 which Steve just me could have set it off..

Completely forgot u mentioned that! That's probably a likely cause by itself

[kial]

Completely forgot u mentioned that! That's probably a likely cause by itself

Hopefully that's the cause, will be gutted if I get the same issue on a new head

[kial]

A few pictures from today's efforts.






Sump






Few other bits also



Whilst the block was wet I decided to attack the engine bay and get rid of the wires and make room for some repairs.





Left it in some can primer for now until I get round to changing the colour



I then got conned into a machine polish wash and wax on the misses car..



That's all for today, thanks for looking

[Trevhib]

Good work, keep it up and with plenty of pics

[SCHWARTZ]

If you can't get super unnleadded where you are and still want to whack a fair bit of boost through it I would make the tdc adjustable and retard the timing a bit.
Put the tdc bracket in a vice very gently clamped on the metal bit and tap the metal bracket so it moves the plastic sensor and take it off, clean all little broken bits of plastic out and slide sensor back on the bracket. The sensor should still be tight on the bracket but now you can tap the sensor toward the front of the engine to retard the ignition timing.

[kial]

If you can't get super unnleadded where you are and still want to whack a fair bit of boost through it I would make the tdc adjustable and retard the timing a bit.
Put the tdc bracket in a vice very gently clamped on the metal bit and tap the metal bracket so it moves the plastic sensor and take it off, clean all little broken bits of plastic out and slide sensor back on the bracket. The sensor should still be tight on the bracket but now you can tap the sensor toward the front of the engine to retard the ignition timing.

Thanks for the advise ill bare that in mind when building it back up. Thanks

[Brigsy]

Get a stethoscope hooked up and listen for det when its all back together

[Woznaldo]

Nice work so far. Is that a DB5 I spy in the background?

[kial]

Nice work so far. Is that a DB5 I spy in the background?

It is indeed mate. That's in for a repsray In cellulose paint

[kial]

Been back at it today guys -

Carry on from prepping engine bay for paint.




Was going to paint today but needed to head to town for a trim

Gave the seats a tidy up/ dye they had faded over the past year being parked up for almost a year





Then modified rear bumper to suit my sidey




Taking the mould



Mould then removed an placed into position




Then fibre glassed from rear



Mould removed



Finished result





Thanks for looking

[kial]

So after 3 weeks of umm'ing and errr'in and a lot of " right that's the one...Ahhh I dunno now.." I picked a colour and painted the engine bay.

Silver under coat





And the top coat









Can see the flip in this pic -



And a well deserved dinner at half 9 lol



That's all. Thanks for looking

[Woznaldo]

I do love seeing these cars coming back to life and you have put in some great work. Finish looks top.

[kial]

I do love seeing these cars coming back to life and you have put in some great work. Finish looks top.

Thanks for your kind words! Means alot.

Updating this thread is what's keeping me motivated. I now feel if I go home after work without doing something to the car, I'm letting the team down hahaha

[Jonny5]

Wow!

Amazing fabrication skills and that colour is stunning
Going to keep my eye on this one.

[rs250nut]

What colour is that, is it a candy or a three stage pearl, my engine bay and interior are going a similar colour, looks mint!!

[Woznaldo]

I know what you mean mate, mine is off the road at the moment because of Sills, but I have the added logistic problem of getting the parts to Australia!

[kial]

I know what you mean mate, mine is off the road at the moment because of Sills, but I have the added logistic problem of getting the parts to Australia!

Renault 5 in Australia !? Surely they are RARE there?

[kial]

What colour is that, is it a candy or a three stage pearl, my engine bay and interior are going a similar colour, looks mint!!

It's a Hyundai colour believe it or not, can't remember the code, was sort fed up of looking and just went for the card in my hand.( which I'm so happy about ) three stage pearl, looks kind of candy in the light though. Let me know and ill get the code for u

[kial]

Wow!

Amazing fabrication skills and that colour is stunning
Going to keep my eye on this one.

[kial]

Whilst I'm still on here's a few of my other car

[rs250nut]

It's a Hyundai colour believe it or not, can't remember the code, was sort fed up of looking and just went for the card in my hand.( which I'm so happy about ) three stage pearl, looks kind of candy in the light though. Let me know and ill get the code for u

I have already chose a colour either 134 competizone red (Alfa Romeo) or frienze red (land rover).

[gttjames]

colour does look nice, and great work on the rear bumper mould. Nice!

[g10far]

Car looks good, quality paint job on the engine bay! Love the M3, the CSL bits really set it off!

[mattk]

That colour looks fantastic, keep up the good work

[Nad-5GTT]

Fantastic work, is that your trade? I've just done the same thing on the bumper although I have a centre exit so was able to pinch the moulding from there to cover the oe exhaust space. Keep the updates coming.

[kial]

Thanks for all your nice comments


Nad-5GTT - it is my trade unfortunately. nothing worse than fixing other peoples cars all day then having to do your own after work lol

[Woznaldo]

Whilst I'm still on here's a few of my other car

Is the 5 in this picture a Tungy Grey or is there a hint of Green in there?

[kial]

Is the 5 in this picture a Tungy Grey or is there a hint of Green in there?

it is tungy but for some reason its starting to go green lol

[kial]

Not much done today just painted bulk head -







Was graced with solid bumper brackets :-)



Also couple of pics from a car show today.







Thanks for looking

[kial]

Gearbox out today



Need to get it cleaned up for paint. Can't decide what colour to go for? Gloss black? Or will it look to boring? Ideas please....



Need to clean / paint these too and re boot one also



Subframe needs a good seeing to.



The rest will have to wait till tomorrow been busy on this all day -



Also I have noticed a leak on the bottom of the gearbox, amyome know what seal goes under there ? Any help would be great. Thanks guys

[kial]

Small update













Now to get bottom end built and can start putting it back together again.

[kial]

Almost forgot about this thread.

Been taking my time with the car, sort of lost interest ect but after the rtoc Facebook page popping up on my newsfeed every day it's kept me at it these last couple of weeks.

Gearbox



Liners cleaned up



Rings fitted and pistons going in



Water pump before



After and crank pulley



New head I aquired from ebay!









Picked these puppies up for 150



New rocker cover painted because the last one was chrome and we all know when happens when u paint chrome !



Inlet




Engine going together. Before anyone mentions, I now know why you shouldn't put head on with rods in place it was a lonnnnng day ! Lol











Now bodywork...















That's all for now guys !

[peterooney]

New poster! (less than 10 posts)

Hats off to you mate - theres some work put into this project.

It looks OUTSTANDING! (Mortal Kombat Circa '96)

[kial]

New poster! (less than 10 posts)

Hats off to you mate - theres some work put into this project.

It looks OUTSTANDING! (Mortal Kombat Circa '96)

Firstly, Welcome to the forum

Secondly, thanks for your kind words !

[Woznaldo]

Great work as always mate.

[mattk]

This looks fantastic mate keep up the good work

[dangerous dave]

great work, looks

[kial]

Thanks guys waiting for my parcel from mark this week which contains a servo and new mc so I new to change that before fitting the lump. hopefully without damaging the bay or engine!

Do people prefer dropping engine in with gearbox fitted? Which is the best way about this..

[chris]

Thanks guys waiting for my parcel from mark this week which contains a servo and new mc so I new to change that before fitting the lump. hopefully without damaging the bay or engine!

Do people prefer dropping engine in with gearbox fitted? Which is the best way about this..

Really good work mate. Its best IMO to put engine in with gearbox attached I have done it both ways and I painted my bay and had to do it again when I changed gearbox due to scratching it engine craneing the whole lot in together is much more controled and saves the back

[LukeRobbo]

Excellent Work