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    Re: R5 Evolution

    Quote Originally Posted by Dave Reed View Post
    Going to be a awesome car when finished bud

    As already mentioned have you thought about space framing it? Will be a lot easier, stronger not to mention lighter.. The amount of fab work you'll have to do to the chassis will cost a lot, for which you could easily build a rolling space frame for..

    I've done the same as you but with a mk6 fiesta and cossie lump. We was going to go done the route of having it all fab'd etc but the cost was the same for a full chassis car.. It'll also make the car much easier to work on.

    Anyway food for thought as they say lol.
    Cheers for that buddy, do you have any links to your build or any photos? It'll be good to get an idea on that

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    Re: R5 Evolution

    I'll try get some up later for you mate..

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    Re: R5 Evolution

    Quote Originally Posted by Dave Reed View Post
    I'll try get some up later for you mate..
    Cheers mate that'll be good to see keeping an open mind

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    Re: R5 Evolution

    Really good to see someone finally doing this engine conversion Should be the project of all projects

    I spoke with Grier about doing one (more so in a Clio) a few years back, but it never materialised unfortunately.

    I owned an Evo (6) for 5 or so years, if you need any help/info regarding the 4g63.

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    Re: R5 Evolution

    Quote Originally Posted by Mart View Post
    Really good to see someone finally doing this engine conversion Should be the project of all projects

    I spoke with Grier about doing one (more so in a Clio) a few years back, but it never materialised unfortunately.

    I owned an Evo (6) for 5 or so years, if you need any help/info regarding the 4g63.
    Thank you i shall ping you messages left right and centre with questions on the 4G63

    Little package arrived today while i was at work, had a call from the wife saying "another big bloody box has arrived for you again"



    3" inlet and outlet, and sufficient capacity for the power i'll be running, plus scope for a little if i want it Measures overall size 31" x 12" x 3" core size 23" x 12" x 3".

    So next week i'll be seeing how she sizes upto the front of the 5, but to be honest the fronts going to be cut and shut so everything fits snug

    Cheers guys

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    Re: R5 Evolution

    This is gonna be a monster! cant wait to see this all done.. Defo following

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    Quote Originally Posted by w35ty View Post
    This is gonna be a monster! cant wait to see this all done.. Defo following
    come on chop chop

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    Re: R5 Evolution

    Quote Originally Posted by w35ty View Post
    This is gonna be a monster! cant wait to see this all done.. Defo following
    Thank you

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    Re: R5 Evolution

    Quote Originally Posted by mattk View Post

    while i was at work, had a call from the wife saying "another big bloody box has arrived for you again"
    This has pretty much been the same story for me this last few months with my mrs.

    Now, less talking and more building.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Goobie View Post
    This has pretty much been the same story for me this last few months with my mrs.

    Now, less talking and more building.
    Lol sir yes sir!!!

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    Re: R5 Evolution

    Quote Originally Posted by Dave Reed View Post
    Going to be a awesome car when finished bud

    As already mentioned have you thought about space framing it? Will be a lot easier, stronger not to mention lighter.. The amount of fab work you'll have to do to the chassis will cost a lot, for which you could easily build a rolling space frame for..

    I've done the same as you but with a mk6 fiesta and cossie lump. We was going to go done the route of having it all fab'd etc but the cost was the same for a full chassis car.. It'll also make the car much easier to work on.

    Anyway food for thought as they say lol.
    What is space framing ?

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    Re: R5 Evolution

    The original monocque of the shell is no longer used for strength, its replaced with a tube frame picking up on suspention points and usally forms part of the roll cage. Like this mini below


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    Re: R5 Evolution

    This Renault 5 has a space frame chassis.

    http://www.5turbo.org/t11298-projet-...-2l-propulsion

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    Re: R5 Evolution

    Quote Originally Posted by Lewis View Post
    This Renault 5 has a space frame chassis.

    http://www.5turbo.org/t11298-projet-...-2l-propulsion
    Now that is a project!

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    Re: R5 Evolution

    Hey guys,

    Wow that is a project and i'm sure he's got the same wheels as me

    A little update today, whipped the head off the engine today and took it over to a friend of mine who's going to strip clean and make it like new but sorry forgot to get a photo but here's one of the block, not to bad inside seeing that it's travelled all the way from the land of the rising sun.



    The furthest cylinder got a little water in it but to be honest it'll be fine after its been re-bored.

    Got the old girl up on stands as well ready to get the engine out, so if any one is interested they'll be a 42k milage 1400cc engine and gearbox avialable soon





    Off to see the fabricator tomorrow, so got the car packed with the gearbox, front and rear diff's and associated mounts, plus the mock up radiator and intercooler.



    Plus stripped the inlet manifold down to bare minimum because he's going to remove the plenum and rotate it 180 degrees due to the orientation the engine will become.



    Cheers for looking guys, the big jobs are get the engine out, remove the doors and glass, remove the loom and dashboard... so not a lot then

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    Makes me sweat just looking at what you've got to do?!

    Keep the updates coming

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    Sorry for the delay














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    Re: R5 Evolution

    Feckinhell dave...builds looking immense talk about monster in the making.....also is that ur dads twin turbo monster with the lenco box I see ;-);-)
    Top stuff....

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    Re: R5 Evolution

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobie View Post
    Now that is a project!
    I freakin' love that. Always been a big fan of the MC Racing MAXI Kit, but that thing is next level and then some. Epic!

    It would seem that Scoff's rear engine GTT was the inspiration!

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    Hey Dave cheers for them pictures mate, that fiesta looks awesome and the V8tt

    Is that electric power steering? And is the fiesta 4wd? I only ask because I was told to stay with conventional p/s to give better feeling through the wheel

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    Re: R5 Evolution

    Alright guys, a little update.

    Took the engine out today, which wasn't to bad, and i've began stripping the bay of no essential bits and pieces. It looked pretty tidy to be honest, but this will soon change in August





    42k mile engine and gearbox available if anyone needs it

    Next for this weekend is to remove the fuel tank, exhaust and begin working on removing the dashboard and loom. If anyone will be interested in the dash just let me know and i'll set it aside for you

    Cheers guys

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    Re: R5 Evolution

    Quote Originally Posted by mattk View Post
    Hey Dave cheers for them pictures mate, that fiesta looks awesome and the V8tt

    Is that electric power steering? And is the fiesta 4wd? I only ask because I was told to stay with conventional p/s to give better feeling through the wheel

    Hi Matt,

    yeah electric power streeing, being electric you can change the setting of the P/S. It's controlled via a potentiometer so is fully adjustable Or you can have it off

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    Re: R5 Evolution

    Quote Originally Posted by Dave Reed View Post
    Hi Matt,

    yeah electric power streeing, being electric you can change the setting of the P/S. It's controlled via a potentiometer so is fully adjustable Or you can have it off
    Oh sound thats alright then Is the fiesta going to be a rallycross car, time attack machine maybe?

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    Re: R5 Evolution

    This is the look that i would like to finish off with



    Just love the stance and aggressiveness of the super production racer

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    Re: R5 Evolution

    Quote Originally Posted by mattk View Post
    Oh sound thats alright then Is the fiesta going to be a rallycross car, time attack machine maybe?

    Road, track action & pod..................Hopefully if I ever finish it


    And that looks sweet, please make it look like that!

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    Re: R5 Evolution

    Quote Originally Posted by Dave Reed View Post
    Road, track action & pod..................Hopefully if I ever finish it


    And that looks sweet, please make it look like that!
    Will do mate, it won't look exactly the same but it'll be along these lines.... low and wide

    Has it been a while in the making then? Its just that the turbo looks like it should have an exclusion zone around the front of it So should make a decent amount of power then

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    Quote Originally Posted by mattk View Post
    Will do mate, it won't look exactly the same but it'll be along these lines.... low and wide

    Has it been a while in the making then? Its just that the turbo looks like it should have an exclusion zone around the front of it So should make a decent amount of power then

    Wicked mate.. I'll check back next week for the finished result

    Not too long really, started it about this time last year, hopefully it'll make some good numbers

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    Re: R5 Evolution

    Quote Originally Posted by rs250nut View Post
    The original monocque of the shell is no longer used for strength, its replaced with a tube frame picking up on suspention points and usally forms part of the roll cage. Like this mini below

    What mini?

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    Re: R5 Evolution

    Hey guys a little update, managed to get all of the dashboard out now, plus all of the heater matrix.







    Removed the wiring loom as well and was suprised how much cabling there was in one of these Happy to say the one that'll be fitted will be a lot more simple

    The only thing left to do now is remove the doors glass and front wings. Would anyone be able to tell me, are the doors held in place with small roll pins inside the hindges, if so is it just a matter of knocking the centers out?

    Plus the front windscreen do you just push it out, or is there a trick to removing it? And the two side windows again is it just removing the seals around them? any help would be appreciated cheers guys





    Managed to finally remove the fuel tank, at first i thought it'd be a two minute job...... nope but got there in the end. She's nearly ready now for the chassis to be worked on, and during that time i'll be stripping down the doors, and getting little odd jobs done, ready for when she returns

    Cheers guys

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    I "think" the rear side windows come out the same way as the rear on those?

    As for the windscreen, its bonded in and took me nearly 3 hours to get mine out couple weeks ago and that was already cracks so I wasn't taking my time trying not to damage it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Goobie View Post
    I "think" the rear side windows come out the same way as the rear on those?

    As for the windscreen, its bonded in and took me nearly 3 hours to get mine out couple weeks ago and that was already cracks so I wasn't taking my time trying not to damage it.
    Cheers Goobie,

    Bugger!! It maybe worth getting someone who know's what they are doing then to come and remove them for me. I'd do them myself but if ever i smashed it..... I'd like to keep them. clean and polish them ready to go back in

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    There's a guide on here some where I think? Cheese wire, sharp knife and long screwdriver. I've been quoted £85 for new screen fitted, so not all bad I guess.

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    Re: R5 Evolution

    project looks awesome, will be an animal when built!!

    i could be very interested in the engine drop me a pm if your in brum your not far from me

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    Quote Originally Posted by Goobie View Post
    There's a guide on here some where I think? Cheese wire, sharp knife and long screwdriver. I've been quoted £85 for new screen fitted, so not all bad I guess.
    Ok cheers mate, i'll have a mooch see if i can find it

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    Quote Originally Posted by Adey aka Ewok View Post
    project looks awesome, will be an animal when built!!

    i could be very interested in the engine drop me a pm if your in brum your not far from me
    Thank you, and pm'd

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    Re: R5 Evolution

    Gonna be a monster! And love that fiesta too! where abouts in brum you from mate? Im any in walsall area...

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    Re: R5 Evolution

    This is gonna be epic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by w35ty View Post
    Gonna be a monster! And love that fiesta too! where abouts in brum you from mate? Im any in walsall area...
    Cheers mate, it'll be entertaining once she's finished

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    Re: R5 Evolution

    Hey guys, thought I'd do a little update. The car is ready to have the chassis worked on now, and goes next week so i'll update it and let you know how we got on with regards to planning.

    We're going to see roughly wear the engine and gearbox are going to sit and how far back we can push it, plus what the wheelbase and track is going to be, and approximately where the seats are going to be positioned...... still in the cabin hopefully

    Cleaned up the unit a bit, and gave it a lick of paint, I think a clean tidy workshop helps with creating a nice car..... lol plus when the cars gone i'll be sealing the floor and painting it, so fingers crossed it'll reduce the dust problem





    Can't have an update without a couple of pictures

    Thanks for looking guys i'll update next week with a lot more information, and pictures

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    Re: R5 Evolution

    Hey guys, took the car up today, to "FINALLY" start on the chassis.



    Got it up onto the plate and start the strip



    Removed the front end



    Slide the engine under the car to get a rough idea on where its going to be positioned. We decided to place the front of the engine in-line with the rear of the strut turrets, so putting it way into the bulkhead, and behind the front axle.







    Old rubber



    New rubber



    Thats all for now folks

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    This is just epic!! I'm loving your thread mate

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    Quote Originally Posted by Andyturbo! View Post
    This is just epic!! I'm loving your thread mate
    Thank you

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    If that engine went any further back it would be in the same place as mine lol.
    Great project.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stu21t View Post
    If that engine went any further back it would be in the same place as mine lol.
    Great project.
    Cheers Stu, I wanted it as far behind the front axle as possible but still keep it practical in the cabin. Once the position of the engine and gearbox has been sorted then we'll be looking at the wheelbase and track.

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    Hey guys, have a little update to post. The bulkheads been cut and the engines been offered up into a rough position to get an idea on how its going to sit.

    I've been sent these photos, so haven't seen it myself as yet, but i'm going up next week to have to gander as to how she's coming along.





    Plus the front sub frame is coming along nicely, with the front differential and crossed shaft being mounted.



    If i'm honest its like being a kid again, i'm so excited and can't wait to get it finished, but i know its such a long way off. I'm just buzzin

    Cheers for looking guys, i'll update again next week

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    Bout fooking time n all

    Been waiting for some update on this, looking as good as expected buddy - keep it up. I'm gonna have to go back and read this thread again now.


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    Loving it mate coming along nicely!

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    Quote Originally Posted by mattk View Post

    Cheers for the comments though buddy, and i'm looking forward to seeing the results of your RR session
    25th of this month

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    Quote Originally Posted by w35ty View Post
    Loving it mate coming along nicely!
    Cheers mate

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    Quote Originally Posted by TNT ANDY View Post
    Bout fooking time n all

    Been waiting for some update on this, looking as good as expected buddy - keep it up. I'm gonna have to go back and read this thread again now.

    I ain't Boyd Coddington you know!!! "We need it finished in three weeks"
    I'm trying to get hold of a decent GT Turbo front grill either MK1 or 2 but they seem to be crazy prices!!! you wouldn't be interested in selling your phase 1 grill would you?

    I'll be bugging you on the 26th btw to see how she gets on

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