remember to brace that screamer pipe up, got a lot of length on it, dont want it to cause cracking on the manifold
remember to brace that screamer pipe up, got a lot of length on it, dont want it to cause cracking on the manifold
Out of hand fella.
Bloody hell dude you get a bit carried away with your builds don't ya.
Looking quality mate.
Can't agree with Ewok enough. Brace that screamer pile to the engine or gearbox also brace the wastegate too. think I'm going to be on my fourth repair due to not having a brace or it not being good enough and I hate taking my car apart.
Originally Posted by Adey aka Ewok
Thanks for the heads up guys and the comments.Bloody hell dude you get a bit carried away with your builds don't ya.
Looking quality mate.
Can't agree with Ewok enough. Brace that screamer pile to the engine or gearbox also brace the wastegate too.
Don't worry, its not finished yet plus there is bracket/braces for the Mainfold and turbo, just not got round to finishing off and post about that part of my build yet.
In ref to my screamer pipe, the pictures are deceiving, it kinda loops round the turbo so counter weights its self quite well and is very light and not actually that long atall, it will makes more sense once engine build pictures etc are up.
Ps, I see I've hit my photobucket limit again on one of the accounts.Picutres will be back working on that account next Tuesday.
if it vibrates and is only held at one end, it will crack.In ref to my screamer pipe, the pictures are deceiving, it kinda loops round the turbo so counter weights its self quite well and is very light and not actually that long atall, it will makes more sense once engine build pictures etc are up.
Well as quoted from a couple of pages back its about time I update on this.Turns out my roll age doesn't fitfront section is way to long, even if I was to cut it, it would be a foot each top side.
So even if I was to start cutting, I would be pretty much cutting all of it to fit which is a bit more than the quoted "may need slight adjustments".
After a lot of backwards and forward emails and calls of not really getting anywhere about my cage that doesn't match up at any fixing points and them not willing to take it back as made to order I've decided I'm not wasting any more time on the matter and accepted their "goodwill gesture" percentage refund to pay towards fabrication cost, which unknown to them is me cutting it up
Back more on topic, had to cut, reweld, bend, shape, pull, stretch, measure and re measure to make sure everything sits in the same spots on each corner with correct spacing all the way round the top of the frame etc. This had become very time consuming to say the least!
I also brought extra bars and fixing to add in as your see when I upload the pictures shortly.
It's not finished yet, but since I'm waiting on engine parts still I spent this week getting the cage in. It's almost finished now, just got the front section and door bars todo which il get cracking on with next week as no more time todo any work on it till Tuesday now.
Pictures to follow once uploaded shortly.
As soon as I saw the make of your roll cage I thought to myself, that's not going to fit! Then you said it was miles out. I totally agree it's a complete joke they can sell them as bolt in when they don't even fit inside the car!
Good work with the build so far, Wish I could do mine at the rate this has progressed. Looking forward to more updates
First step after a lot of in and out was to mark out where my base feet are going to go and get the heigh right.
I've set it so it has slight interference fit with the roof for added strength etc.
Here the base plates with drilled holes and nuts welded on the under side for direct no messing about bolt in fixing.
Up next was making and shaping box section to fit in and weld.
My focus was then onto the rear feet that was so badly out, I just cut them off completely and started again.
Now my rear plate mounts I previously welded in are in the wrong place and needed grinding off and completely re doing, and here you see they now gone and new marking etc been done with holes for the fixing nuts to clear and poke through.
After that, reused the base plate, bit more hammering to shape then grinding and shaping the rear base foot to fit properly, quick test fit and then weld the foot back on!
Repeat on other side to match, then flatted the welds.
Following on was rear base plate mounts, cut to shape, holes drilled for nuts to be welded, check fitment, then welded in. Again, cavity nut bolt fixing style so it actually bolts to the car and not through it with your usual loose nut bolt fixing.
10/10 for effort with the cage, but that would drive me nuts having to do all that! Goobie as ever the attention the detail is spot on, always 100% with your builds
Now I had the rear in and sitting in the right places on each corner, it was all bolted up nice and solid, I could them move on to adding some extra bars in for strength that I brought separately.
I started with the two bottom base feet.
Then the boot cross bar which I will be adding a sneaky trick mod to next week that I've not seen done, but here it is so far to help keep things tight etc.
And that brings me upto where I am with that till next week now. Just got the front section todo and door bars which will be easy after the above.
Looking pretty good, toying with the idea of adding a diagonal roof bar??hmm......
That's awesome
Ace stuff. Looks great...
Fancy doing the welding on my car
"Well Jell" of the welding skills!
Well, what awesome, quality work this is after such a cock up by the 'professionals'. Big congrats
Excellent work
Re the roll cage, did the rear feet originally mount on the boot floor as opposed to the arches?
Thanks Rick-ski! Wasn't happy and fed up wasting time waiting for parts etc so just got on with it and pretty pleased with the out come so far!10/10 for effort with the cage, but that would drive me nuts having to do all that! Goobie as ever the attention the detail is spot on, always 100% with your builds
Thanks buddy! More to come.That's awesome
NopeAce stuff. Looks great...
Fancy doing the welding on my car
It's not been easy, I'm very lucky to have a good friend who has all these top tools that I don't have in my tool boxes and letting me use them aswell as taking over the garden and back room of his house with loads of parts for my car.
He has given me a lot of help and advice so much so I can't really thank him enough and he never ask me for anything in return.
Thanks buddy, they come out really well, so well in fact that Im not even going flat them down for the smooth look as I was going to give everything the smooth and one piece look."Well Jell" of the welding skills!
It was way out, but some of it could be down to transporting it from Itailly, must of changed hands a few times between delivery people and we all know how much care these people take etc even though this is steel, its still not got anything linking the feet to keep it within rough spec.Well, what awesome, quality work this is after such a cock up by the 'professionals'. Big congrats
No, was always the arches, but they where completely wrong angle and rotation, all fixed now.Excellent work
Re the roll cage, did the rear feet originally mount on the boot floor as opposed to the arches?
Thanks everyone for all the positive comments.
Got loads of one off attention to details little touches coming up in the next two weeks.
Roll cage saga continued.
Made up new base feet platforms, shaved to shape and captive nuts welded to the underside.
Popped in the car to check placement and fitment with front cage section refitted to then tacked into place.
New feet welded on.
Then fully welded up and end plates made to box it up.
Quick going over to tidy it up and flat the welds.
Now the front was all in and straight, onto my door bars. Cut to length, brackets welded on and here stage one!
Now time to add extra protection, cut the bar to length and shaped it round the door bar leaving me with this.
Then welded along with the bolt on brackets.
Fits like a glove!
Then decide I'm not going to stop there.
Out come more steel, again, more chopping and shaping.
In it goes.
Every main section been welded in car, so to make sure from the heat of the welds nothing moves out of place etc.
Now removed it all to get to small gaps that couldn't be reached when fitted and to check all welds are 100% complete with no pin holes etc.
And that's where I am with it as of now.
As your see from the top of this page, my non fitting roll cage has come a long way from its quoted "bolt in some minor adjustments maybe required"
Think I must of cut and re welded everything apart from the main hoop and rear diagonal bar on this.
I used additional five meters of steel and six extra bolt fixing attachments brackets, which brings my cage total cost to £721.01p minus post and obviously zero labor.
Hopefully get it down to the powder coaters next week and then best get the inside of my shell repainted again!
Pretty pleased with the final result even tho it has taken two weeks and a lot of messing about.
Next week, hopefully get on with my engine build now more parts Ive been waiting on have turn'd up.
Build cost as of today now stands at £10,860.06p
WATCH THIS SPACE...............
Last post about my roll cage, promise.
Added the last finishing touches today, didn't want todo the classic harness wrapped round the rear brace job, so welded nuts into the rear boot brace for the harness to bolt to.
Cage is now finish and ready to be taken for powder coating.
God I hate you! Lovely work mate!
Seat mount time.
My bucket seat side brackets feet width worked out to be to wide, they fitted in on the original frame runners but the seats were way off center of steering wheel and wouldn't fit with my roll cage door bars, so scraped it completely and decide to rework it all as didn't want to buy any nasty heavy universal sub frames.
So, I ordered some more steel, instead.
Here goes, firstly chopped up some 2 by 4 steel to length and shaped it, then support base plate brackets and welded it all up after marking out where they want to sit etc.
Then welded in cavity nuts and flatten the welds, but then it started raining so welded got put away with only one side done.
Il finish them off next week and tidy them up.
As it was raining, I decided to put my new spot weld drill bit to use and remove the last of the unwanted/needed brackets and mounts, so off came the old rear seat slots.
Enjoying this thread chap. Keep up the good work
And then the annoyingly now not needed original seat mounts to give it more of a cleaner look etc.
Was a bit of a mission to get off as you can see here.
Finished off my custom engine torque damper today, pics to follow once all cleaned up etc.
Also, made a start on strengthening my spare wishbones along with few other things today.
Here a couple snaps.
Whilst I'm not finished with the inside, decided I best fill a few spot weld holes in, flatten them down, rust prevention treat them and my roll cage mount boxes etc then a couple of layers of primer for now till I get round to rubbing down the whole inside for a respray AGAIN!
Why did you paint the inside then do all the welding afterwards?
Well, few reason, some as already mention in this thread. Roll cage was ment to be bolt in, I had time slot in the body shop with full use of all equipment etc, but my cage turned up just as I got my car tailed there only to find it was way off fitment wise etc.
So I did the best I could with the rear mount plates as I was sending the cage back to swap for another that should fit then would of only been a case of adding base plates in later that I could touch up myself as wouldn't of been seen because the carpet will hide it, but obviously that all went out the window as they wouldn't take the cage back so had to get creative as seen above.
Also, the final finish I wasn't happy with as mention and then my plans for mounting my seats changed, so no real biggy in the long run, it was only the cost of paint to have the inside spray anyway as I've been making full use of all my contracts in various trades and calling in favours owed.
This build would easily be a lot more £'s if I wasn't doing it myself and calling in favours plus I've managed to get a lot of discount on parts I've been getting in.
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