Forum revival needed

[Pete@Backyard Racing]

It's a bit quiet in this r5turbo/ turbo 2 forum!
Is there any r5 turbo,turbo 2 or maxi owners in the Rtoc these days?? How many of these awesome little cars are there left on the road in the uk?
This is probably the most iconic motorsport car ever produced by Renault. If it wasn't for this car there wouldn't be a r5gtt. It just seems the Rtoc is just about the r5gtt that's not a bad thing but I'd like to learn about our only group b car aswell.
I'd love to read another members restoration project/ rallying/ hill climb thread etc on one of these cars.
Please more info, pics etc...

[Sparkie]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nkgVInTNoTY

[Lewis]

There's a few specific uk and foreign clubs for the 5 turbo, turbo 2 and maxi.
I think there's more relevant information to offer members/owners on those sites.

Sparkie I'm certain knows a few uk clubs/sites, (I vaguely recall a yahoo user group if it's still running?)
Try www.5turbo.fr and I think Andrews mk1 Renault 5 site is probably a better source of 5 turbo info.

The rtoc is still mainly centred around the 5 gtt and mk2 5 but that's mainly because it was previously the 5gttoc and spread its wings a bit. Moggy and sparkie are probably your best bet on here regarding the 5 turbo but they are both ex owners so that's expected.

You were looking at a 5 turbo project at one point weren't you Pete?

[Pete@Backyard Racing]

Yeh I'm still trying to persuade the same owner of the t2 to sell it to me. I go to the garage where it's kept every week to business with the owner. Last week I was looking in a damp container thru some cardboard boxes of all the parts from the t2 that had been stripped off it in preparation for painting about 8 yrs ago.
Seems a proper shame for such an iconic car to end up.
Is there any t2 owners left in the Rtoc??
I recall a member from York with a tour de course replica??

[Tony Walker]

We serviced Darrens black turbo 2 but ive not seen him for ages, he's not been on the boards either. He was trying to sell to buy a turbo (1)

[Pete@Backyard Racing]

Nice pic

[BILLY-R5GTT]

There used to be a red Turbo 2 from Stockport.. Seen it a few times absolute minter. Anyone on here?

This is it...

http://www.google.co.uk/imgres?q=ren...9,r:7,s:0,i:95

[Tony Walker]

couple more

[Tony Walker]

We fitted an extractor fan/ducting and wiring for him, and repaired some of John Prices shocking wiring repairs. Dangling live wires...

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[Tony Walker]

An eventfull RR day organised by Alex at balmuir i think, 2 turbo 2's at one rr day???? Who'd of thought it.

[Sparkie]

was that before or after his daughter rode up the side of it with her bike.....



there is a yahoo.com forum, that i'm still a member of. - its full of americans with too much money and very little mechanical skill.....

[Tony Walker]

lol doh... did he sell it after that or get it repaired?

[Alex]

I've got a feeling he sold it? Bloody nice example that apart from it being RHD

[steveT2]

Nothing wrong with rhd

[Tony Walker]

Thats the correct way round isn't it? It's more a shame the rest are left hand drive.

[Alex]

I thought the RHD cars were converted using different steering gear and apparently don't feel the same/as good to drive?

[Lewis]

RHD conversions were done with gordini/gordini turbo steering rack and dashboard etc. Which as far as I know has a different number of turns lock to lock.

[Alex]

Yeah that's the one

[steveT2]

I've never driven a lhd turbo 2 and my dad hasn't,but I can't imagine it feeling any sharper/quicker on the steering(could be wrong though)
To be honest he wouldn't have bought it if it was lhd,as he's owned lhd cars before,and really didn't like them.

Anyone know the difference between the two racks?

[Tony Walker]

I thought the RHD cars were converted using different steering gear and apparently don't feel the same/as good to drive?

Sorry i meant the french have it the wrong way lol. not just on the turbo

[Tony Walker]

i geuss it could be a bit quicker with the weight reduction on the front wheels requiring less effort to turn.

[Lewis]

If my quick google results are to be believed its 3.7 turns lock to lock for the gordini and 3.3 turns lock to lock for the turbo/turbo 2.

That's near enough the same as the campus rack compared to the gt turbo rack.

[markg]

Spotted these the other day. Thought I would post here in case any Alpine owners were interested. Not mine by the way !

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/POMO-RENAU...#ht_586wt_1398

Cheap compared to a 5 GT Turbo gear knob.

[Pete@Backyard Racing]

What ever happened to the t2 repainted gordini blue with the maxi kit b931rdy? I think it was owned by a member called blot?
That was a cool car.

[Tony Walker]

That was so so so cheap, really kicked myself for not buying that.

[Pete@Backyard Racing]

That was so so so cheap, really kicked myself for not buying that.

How much was it for sale for??
What was the spec on it?

[Tony Walker]

Cant remember exactly, think it was cheap because it wasnt OE, but i wouldnt of cared, somewhere around 9k? maybe less
240bhp ish i think? alot of time and effort went in to it, it was immaculate and fully set up for competition use. I still am really gutted i didnt buy it. Ive seen lots of parts of it for sale on ebay since

[Sparkie]

wrong bodykit on that car.
used to moggy's when it was white....

[Tony Walker]

yeah i remember him being disapointed on the RR results at first and telling Moggy it was a lemon lol

[Pete@Backyard Racing]

wrong bodykit on that car.
used to moggy's when it was white....

What was wrong with the kit on it? Do u mean with it being a maxi kit on a turbo 2?

[Pete@Backyard Racing]

The rear wheels didn't fill the maxi arches

[steveT2]

Something was strangling the power,I'm sure the inlet manifold was to blame,I think he ran it at 2 bar and it didn't make over 250hp

[Pete@Backyard Racing]

Do the turbo2 and maxi use the same inlet manifold?

[Tony Walker]

i doubt it.

[Moggy]

just before this gets brought back up again....

on 2 sets of *rollers* that car made nearly 300bhp! it was mapped by Glen T and Mr Omex himself, but then it went 'somewhere' to sort it out. Not sure why it needed sorting as it drove all the way to france and back and apart from melting a starter motor (cheers for the push Sparkie) it didn't miss a beat.

Everything on the car apart from the exhaust manifold was custom made, inlet, chargecooler, infact there was Paperwork from Salv Sacco that it was a 300bhp engine "inside".

but when it went 'somewhere' once they'd mapped it and rebuilt it it could never get over 240bhp. Don't know why but I know the guy that 'remapped it' said it was running too much advance. Guess he didn't check the actual figures the works cars where (go look them up and be scared!)

still miss it and hate the fact it ended up looking like it did!

I love the fact that SteveT2 and his dad kept theirs looking like a TDC and didnt' go down the maxi route, as unless you do the whole hog, personally it doesn't work!

right off to go and look at pictures of our trip to france, not many cars gave Stu21t's M3 a race upto 100! ;-)

[Sparkie]

was one of the places it went for a Rolling road was up in northallerton? - Motorscope?

when rtoc had an RR day before, no-one got decent figures, my 200-230bhp car was struggling to get 160bhp......

[Tony Walker]

just before this gets brought back up again....

on 2 sets of *rollers* that car made nearly 300bhp! it was mapped by Glen T and Mr Omex himself, but then it went 'somewhere' to sort it out. Not sure why it needed sorting as it drove all the way to france and back and apart from melting a starter motor (cheers for the push Sparkie) it didn't miss a beat.

Everything on the car apart from the exhaust manifold was custom made, inlet, chargecooler, infact there was Paperwork from Salv Sacco that it was a 300bhp engine "inside".

but when it went 'somewhere' once they'd mapped it and rebuilt it it could never get over 240bhp. Don't know why but I know the guy that 'remapped it' said it was running too much advance. Guess he didn't check the actual figures the works cars where (go look them up and be scared!)

still miss it and hate the fact it ended up looking like it did!

I love the fact that SteveT2 and his dad kept theirs looking like a TDC and didnt' go down the maxi route, as unless you do the whole hog, personally it doesn't work!

right off to go and look at pictures of our trip to france, not many cars gave Stu21t's M3 a race upto 100! ;-)

Sorry to of brought it up i didnt realise there was some kafuffle over it. I thought it was innocent banta.
Colour/modifications or not it was a lovely car maybe not to everyones tastes but still things like that can be changed and it would of been a very cheap entry in to owning such an amazing car.

[Moggy]

was one of the places it went for a Rolling road was up in northallerton? - Motorscope?

when rtoc had an RR day before, no-one got decent figures, my 200-230bhp car was struggling to get 160bhp......

I think thats where it went mate, glen's rollers had it high up and I ran it somewhere else and it was nearly the same, 2 out of 3, I know which figures I believed!

[Moggy]

Tony,

no worries

prob with t2's are.... its a 1970's design!

take the clio v6, amazing cars, but a 182 would have them on a good twisty track!
T1 T2 maxi, amazing cars, but 2wd, and when you've got some scrote in a corsa 1.2 sitting 1inch from your bumper, who you know isn't insured, you start to worry!!!

[Tony Walker]

Yeah i agree, and completely understand, driven lots of V6's and gotten to know them pretty well, there basically a kit car but few cars make you feel as special driving them.
In a similar manner the 5 turbo has been a car ive dreampt of owning since i was in primary school and even if the only one i could ever own was a rotten missmatched pile of crap i'd still snap it up if i could lol.
It would almost certainly not live up to expectations, i think i just need another engine in the back of my 5. Its the whistling behind your head that got me

[Pete@Backyard Racing]

Well I suppose if u get the same results on 2 out of 3 rollers u know which to believe. It been said a million times Rollers are good fun (cars look and sound great on them) but uve got to take the results with a pinch of salt as there's to many variables for them to be accurate (ie calibration, wheel spin and an experienced operator)
Having said that scoffs rollers seem really good and all his equipment looks brand new and really professional. I think scoff mainly uses them to map cars and keep his license clean. ( rather than power run printouts with bizarre power claims as per the max power rolling road days)

[Pete@Backyard Racing]

Has anyone seen the film 2 fast 2 race?

[Tony Walker]

yeah

[Alex]

Got that on VHS!

[Pete@Backyard Racing]

Got that on VHS!

Yeh me 2! I bought it yrs ago. I didn't really appreciate it then. I recently got the VHS transferred on to a DVD and now I can't stop watching it. Awesome film, awesome cars and very retro cool. Plus good footage and info on r5s.