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    quaife diff

    tomorrow im ordering a quaife atb helical diff for the 5 box and can get it for £980 inc vat and postage does anyone know if these can be found any cheaper if so would be great if you could tell me where before i order this one cheers all

    phil

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    Re: quaife diff

    Not a bad price for a brand new one...if thats inclusive of vat and postage.
    Make sure you get paperwork with it, so you get the lifetime guarantee.

    Bit extreme but people do this to them....just in case.
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    Re: quaife diff

    Thats a good price mate, when I was looking they all wanted over a grand, TBH i didn't try any haggling, was just getting internet prices.

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    Re: quaife diff

    Quote Originally Posted by Matt@CodeRedMotorsports View Post
    Not a bad price for a brand new one...if thats inclusive of vat and postage.
    Make sure you get paperwork with it, so you get the lifetime guarantee.

    Bit extreme but people do this to them....just in case.
    yes that price includes p+p and vat i have a contact in demon tweeks but the best he could do was a 5% discount then i found a helpful company who beat demons deal to get to this price

    in regards to the lifetime guarantee would it be invalid if the diff was welded up ?

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    Re: quaife diff

    Probably invalidates it yes....

    Have you tried Quaife directly? sometimes if you get the right person and offer a cash deal....???

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    Re: quaife diff

    Quote Originally Posted by Matt@CodeRedMotorsports View Post
    Probably invalidates it yes....

    Have you tried Quaife directly? sometimes if you get the right person and offer a cash deal....???
    i tried them matt but they wouldnt budge on price and they themselves told me to go to a trader/retailer who sell there product as they said they would be able to do a deal but they couldnt bit stupid really imo

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    Re: quaife diff

    Good old Quaife

    Sounds like you need a gripper diff then?

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    Re: quaife diff

    How much will it cost to have the diff fitted into your gearbox or you doing it yourself mate ?

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    Re: quaife diff

    Ordered the quaife LSD today so I should have it Wednesday and hopefully will have it fitted as well on Wednesday I work for vw so one of the head technicians is going to sling it in for me for a drink

    Cheers for peoples inputs in this much appreciated

    Phil

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    Re: quaife diff

    Check for cracks in the teeth when you strip the box, and iirc you need to grind a bit of the internal casing off to get it in...!

    Oh and change the shaft oil seals for sure while it is in bits!

    You will be amazed the difference it makes.

    Al

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    Re: quaife diff

    Get your chap to renew the gear change seal, as it would be a ball ache to find it leaks after fitting the diff. (another strip down!).
    Fitting it for a drink!?! You lucky beggar!

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    Re: quaife diff

    Quote Originally Posted by Matt@CodeRedMotorsports View Post
    Probably invalidates it yes....

    Have you tried Quaife directly? sometimes if you get the right person and offer a cash deal....???
    I tried that once, what a bunch of rude and unhelpfull soles they were. I could import a Quaife from the USA, pay import and VAT and still be cheaper than the 5% discount they offered me.

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    Re: quaife diff


    You must have spoken to Nick or another chap we used to call 'Lugs', try talking to Matt Simmonds, he is more 'human'.....

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    Re: quaife diff

    Quote Originally Posted by philr5t View Post
    tomorrow im ordering a quaife atb helical diff for the 5 box and can get it for £980 inc vat and postage does anyone know if these can be found any cheaper if so would be great if you could tell me where before i order this one cheers all

    phil
    Thats what i paid

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    Re: quaife diff

    Couple of pics for you Phil.

    To be continued......

    Took nearly 20 tons to shift the crown wheel off an old diff.
    Old vs New.
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    Re: quaife diff

    Quote Originally Posted by Matt@CodeRedMotorsports View Post
    Couple of pics for you Phil.

    To be continued......

    Took nearly 20 tons to shift the crown wheel off an old diff.
    Old vs New.
    Cheers for the pictures Matt nice to see more progress and looking forward to getting it back now and I would also like to say a big thank you for all your help advice and assistance over the phone what a nice clever chap to deal with

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    Re: quaife diff

    Quote Originally Posted by philr5t View Post
    Cheers for the pictures Matt nice to see more progress and looking forward to getting it back now and I would also like to say a big thank you for all your help advice and assistance over the phone what a nice clever chap to deal with
    Matt @ CodeRed = top bloke

    I'll second that. If i needed racing setup / advice i would go to him!

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    Re: quaife diff

    Few more ...
    All casing bolts loosened and light separation of casing.
    5th gear detent removed.
    5th gear casing removed.
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    Re: quaife diff

    Then....
    Yucky silicon.
    Bracing and driving out 5th selector pin.
    Removing 5th gear set nuts/bolts.
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    Re: quaife diff

    Quote Originally Posted by Alastair View Post
    Matt @ CodeRed = top bloke

    I'll second that. If i needed racing setup / advice i would go to him!


    Just like ol whitey, my new purchase will also be worked on by Code Red

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    Re: quaife diff

    Also...
    Remove 5th gear set.
    Retain the balls, magnet handy!!
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    Re: quaife diff

    ......carrying on.
    Use dummy rods to retain balls and springs.
    Shafts removed.
    Paper towel to retain change lock outs.
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    Re: quaife diff

    Finally!
    oil seal removed to show diff nut.
    Big socket!
    Diff can be removed.
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    Re: quaife diff

    Quote Originally Posted by Matt@CodeRedMotorsports View Post
    ......carrying on.
    Use dummy rods to retain balls and springs.
    Shafts removed.
    Paper towel to retain change lock outs.

    Sorry! one photo I forgot!
    Drive out the selector fork pin, but you MUST counter hold the change rod, so the fork doesn't stress against the hub otherwise the fork can shatter.
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    Re: quaife diff

    And she is out!!
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    Re: quaife diff

    Fantastic work Matt and thanks again how does my origional diff seem

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    Re: quaife diff

    Internally not too bad in the gearbox, bit furry around the magnet...
    I'll make a list of bits and pm you on monday evening.

    Thanks for the kind words too chaps.

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    Re: quaife diff

    As far as building Renault engines and gearboxes for racing etc, Matts forgotten more than the rest of us have learnt in the last 20 years. You're in very safe hands mate!

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    Re: quaife diff

    That would make a good article matt, not many people get that involved with gearboxes

    You know the slotted/holed ring that the speedo sensor looks at, can you tell me how many holes there are in it ?

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    Re: quaife diff

    I'll have a look in the morning Chris.

    Hehe! Nice one Oli!! Your saying I'm old and forgetful? .The starlet head is finally clean! Took two days of soaking.
    Hopefully Scott and Barns will have as much fun in these things as the celicas.

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    Re: quaife diff

    Quote Originally Posted by olidaviesuk View Post
    As far as building Renault engines and gearboxes for racing etc, Matts forgotten more than the rest of us have learnt in the last 20 years. You're in very safe hands mate!
    Cheers oli i had a feeling Matt may have played about with shed liads of renaults before with his background and the fact his garage is like aladins cave

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    Re: quaife diff

    Quote Originally Posted by Scoff View Post
    That would make a good article matt, not many people get that involved with gearboxes

    You know the slotted/holed ring that the speedo sensor looks at, can you tell me how many holes there are in it ?
    12 holes Chris

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    Re: quaife diff

    OK so, carrying on from last time.
    Crown wheel machined and pressed onto Quaife diff.
    Quaife supply two balls and a plan/drawing to get the crown wheel machined to accept them.
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    Re: quaife diff

    Next is to assemble the parts ready to go into the casings.
    Bearings pressed on.
    Speedo pickup.
    Old diff Vs new item.
    Preload shim.
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    Re: quaife diff

    Time to get the diff into the bell housing half of the casing.
    Diff in the casing and bearings lubed and assembled.
    Diff nut, degreased, touch of loctite. Done up and check the diff for high spots.
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    Re: quaife diff

    Time to assemble the rest of the parts onto the casing.
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    Re: quaife diff

    While the box was apart I advised Phil had the change mech seal changed. If this leaks it a bit of a pain to renew.
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    Re: quaife diff

    Next it was time to assemble the two casings.
    A spot of sealant.
    A tool was made to lift the reverse idler gear to allow the box halves to contact.
    Then the reverse detent assembled and fitted to hold reverse in place.
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    Re: quaife diff

    Then test the gear mechs. Advise a couple of casing bolts wound into the casing.
    Then 5th gear spring fitted with a touch of sealant.
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    Re: quaife diff

    Then 5th gearset fitted, end casing and a finishing touch.
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    Re: quaife diff

    Fantastic work and a great strip down and build thread Matt many thanks for all your work look forward to picking the box up tomorrow night mate again a massive thanks

    Phil

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    Re: quaife diff

    do quaife manufacture diffs for renault r11 five speed gerabox? maybe anyone knows where can i find it? because on quaife website they dont have anything about 5 or 11 renaults

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