ah i see, how bad is the smoke?
shame i dont know u lot would have tagged along for the drive
ah i see, how bad is the smoke?
shame i dont know u lot would have tagged along for the drive
It like there is a fire under my bonnet but no flamesOriginally Posted by R5GTTRaider
a little worrying I am putting it down to the heat wrap being new and the fact it has got really wet over the winter period as water has got in through the 16v vent on the bonnet
Last edited by James5; 28-07-2009 at 14:09.
is the smoke white or look like a kettle under your bonnet kinda steam
may well be wet heat wrap thats cooking off the water, tho does it look like its burnt or buring?
The heat wrap will smoke/stink like feck mate, Don't worry about it will stop after a few miles.
Good to hear its finally getting there
I was nearly right lol, i remember looking at mine and thinking hmmm... I didnt use any of mine on the clio loom but then i was fitting a volvo loom not a 172..
Great work so far mate, gonna be sweet when finished..
Looking forwrd to my drive tonight just don't like the thought of no temp gauge at the mo
Tonight deffo on then....
ALL welcome.... Spose ile go asda for milk and bourbons... maybe some sherbert dip
AgreeThe heat wrap will smoke/stink like feck mate, Don't worry about it will stop after a few miles.
Good to hear its finally getting there
No temp gaugeI wouldn't risk it just yet!
Cheers jon well I now want to go back to what I know and the reason I love gtt's
james, im actualy gutted that you dont like it. all the hard work and effort, and flue/sickness from it.
Mate... when mines done, my garage is yours
We need to find a good classic car restoration team in surrey
I see your asking for a r5 turbo lump ? are you taking this 172 lump out already.. ?
I thought it was going so well - how come the sudden change of heart..
I drove it just didn't like it all worked well I just want a c1j back I have been thinking about going back for a while to be honestI see your asking for a r5 turbo lump ? are you taking this 172 lump out already.. ?
I thought it was going so well - how come the sudden change of heart..
Ahhh don't tell me that.. I've only just got the engine running
I drove it just didn't like it all worked well I just want a c1j back I have been thinking about going back for a while to be honest
what is it you don't like? Is it too civilised, or is it the slowness? What about the handling?
itz wiv ot d boost
Cue the "Renault had it right from the factory" comment again
Cue the "Renault had it right from the factory" comment again
Cue the "Renault had it right from the factory" comment againto that!
Cue the "Renault had it right from the factory" comment again
They did with the Cio 172 IMO, as with the R5 GTT
Mixing the new reliability of the 172 engine with the 80s retro shape of the GT is certainly a good idea, it wasn't long ago everybody was doing the 'Valver' conversion so i'd assume the 172 lump was the next logical 'step'
Ashy, what did you think of the conversion pre turbo? I think i remember you taking it to Knockhill?
The Clio 172 itself is IMO a nice complete package for someone into spirited back road driving and trackdays, which i'd imagine is what RenaultSport intended this car for
James, James, James, what are you like !!
long faced at the mo dudewheres james gone, he looked like i have for a year or so.
Mate nooooooooo, you come all this way and now your going back.. Just buy another r5 turbo and have 2, keeping ur 172 as a toy and turbo it...
I drove it just didn't like it all worked well I just want a c1j back I have been thinking about going back for a while to be honest
You can't go back man you just can't
are you quite sane ? you'd exchange a modern day 16v engine capable of making 170hp with no boost for a 1960's carb fed pushrod ? have a word
I drove it just didn't like it all worked well I just want a c1j back I have been thinking about going back for a while to be honest
But ok ok, I know, there's more to it than that. it can be an emotional thing, a desire to stay original, or whatever else (none of which I subscribe to, but we're all different thankfully!!)
If it's soley down to the feel of the drive then believe me, once you turbocharge it you'll be glad you kept the modern block. If you hanker for originality then crack on, I'm sure folk will understand.
You can't have driven it far enough to make a decision surely?? Enjoy it for summer at least
the scope for power with a turbo conversion is awesome too, Half way there now its in the hole
It's the emotional attachment to the c1j that I miss. I have already started the removal process all auxillary parts all removed it is just a case of getting the engine out now which I will do next week.
Last edited by James5; 08-05-2009 at 21:08.
fortunately I have no attachment to the Cleon in the Twingo
they're gonna love this on Cliosport
I loved mine when it was NA... It was responsive, fairly quick and nice to drive
Its ten times better with a bit of boost
wow you work quick! anychance it'll be on the road for the rtoc santapod day?
I loved mine when it was NA... It was responsive, fairly quick and nice to drive
Its ten times better with a bit of boost
Ashy, how much did it cost to go turbo from N/A? I like the Clio but wouldn't mind knowing what's involved in doing the conversion
didn't really cost me anything mate, I made the manifold myself, allready had the bigger injectors, borrowed the turbo
have you kept the same compression?didn't really cost me anything mate, I made the manifold myself, allready had the bigger injectors, borrowed the turbo
no mate i've lowered it!
Ahh yeah.. it's all coming back to me
By machining down the OE pistons IIRC?
Ashy i don't suppose you have a list of all the parts needed to do the complete conversion?
Standalone ecu, intercooler and pipe run, custom manifold, custom down pipe, T3 turbo, turbo oil feed and oil drain, skim the pistons to lower compression, setup costs for mapping ecu, injectors (prob use meganne 225 jobbies), sparkies again prob 225 jobbies, weld a boss onto the sump for oil return from turbo, there prob a few more bits needed.
Last edited by James5; 10-05-2009 at 13:59.
Thanks Jamesy
Think i may pop round for a chat later matey...... give you a slap or two as well
Awesome read...James, thanks for putting me off
Spooky don't let my experiences put you off, the conversion to be honest is quiet easy to do and I would recomend going down the standalone route.Awesome read...James, thanks for putting me off
If i stuck with the F4r lump I would have looked into wider track and played alot more with the coilover settings and some stiffer springs, I would have also gone the T3 cossie turbo route.
As Scoff said to me above somewhere am I insane swapping a modern 16v engine capable of 170bhp as standard with little effort. I do miss turning the key everytime and it starting without fault. It was an emotional thing for the C1J (sad) and family that made me sway back to C1J as I was spending a lot of time on the 5 sorting little problems hear and there and juggling my time with the Mrs's & my 3 kids (and forth child now on way aswell). Thankfully the 5 is only a hobby car and the Zafira GSI is a pretty quick people carrier.
Back to C1J and the car is fully road legal and ready for Nat Day, only thing that needs sorting really is the engine loom as the rad fan wiring has a bit of fire damage so not usable so fan on a manual switch (new loom still required) but at the time being seems to be ok with the switch. Am loving the C1J at the mo with 16psi manifold on the little T2 feels really good.
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Just toying with ya dude
My car is my daily so this would have to be a case of source what I need and literally, do it in a weekend.
I'm convinced that it's achievable, I know you had some electrical/technical gremlins but if you didn't, that car wouldn't have taken so much time to get on the road
And trust me when I say I was impressed with the speed of conversion, very good work and that aspect is really twisting my arm to press ahead with it.
I've always stuck firm with the C1J, I've never had any reason to doubt it reliability or durability wise. Saying that, I've always felt if I had the oppurtunity to do the conversion, this would be the one I'd follow up.
I'm already making hay into my spares, quite a lot of parts could be up for sale in the near future to fund this.
If you had all the parts ready, I would say it could be done in a weekend, look at my list of parts needed and you will get an idea of what is required to get it running. I hate electrics but since doing the conversion have got used to playing with a multimeter.
Quick tip when / if you do the conversion put the engine and gearbox together out of the car with nothing else attached then put the engine back in.
Volvo F series engines will be your friends to get things cheap or free,alternator brackets top and bottom, also the 1.7 gtx engine mount bracket, you can use the 5 rubber mount.
You will also need a better fuel pump than the GTT 1 as I don't think it will flow enough for the 172.
Just toying with ya dude
My car is my daily so this would have to be a case of source what I need and literally, do it in a weekend.
I'm convinced that it's achievable, I know you had some electrical/technical gremlins but if you didn't, that car wouldn't have taken so much time to get on the road
And trust me when I say I was impressed with the speed of conversion, very good work and that aspect is really twisting my arm to press ahead with it.
I've always stuck firm with the C1J, I've never had any reason to doubt it reliability or durability wise. Saying that, I've always felt if I had the oppurtunity to do the conversion, this would be the one I'd follow up.
I'm already making hay into my spares, quite a lot of parts could be up for sale in the near future to fund this.
Shame mate, big big shame, u shud just do a low boost turbo conversion, i love mine and wud not go bk to c1j again after owning this, shud have just given it abit more time to c how u got on wit it mate then poss add the turbo wen funds allow, each to there own but just dont c the logic in goin bk to the 1.4 bud
I know matey is a shame it's like going back to Horse and cart (well not quiet) but I would like to EFI the C1J once I have seen a few succesfull conversions done and completed
sorry to bring this thread back up after so long but what a journey and just as the plot was coming to an end you throw in a twist like ripping it straight out. emaotional to say the least....
i just had to say well done james.
now to read through andrew cooks thread, i hope its as enthralling as this was
sorry to bring this thread back up after so long but what a journey and just as the plot was coming to an end you throw in a twist like ripping it straight out. emaotional to say the least....
i just had to say well done james.
now to read through andrew cooks thread, i hope its as enthralling as this was
Crikey not seen this thread in a while.
And now I am doing F7p turbo conversion
Last edited by James5; 31-05-2011 at 09:28.
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