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    Re: Somthing for the weekend.

    i love this car man, makes the old shape look so fresh

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    Re: Somthing for the weekend.

    Yeah......

    You going to Pod on the 29th? I'd like to see this in the metal.....

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    Re: Somthing for the weekend.

    Looking good dude, I really need to crack on with mine. Hopefully it will be road worthy in the next few months and i'll pop over (in Gosport).

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    Re: Somthing for the weekend.

    Not sure if I will make the pod, it is half term week which is always difficult! Thanks for the kind words about the motor, tiff I'm sure you'll get yours on the road soon!

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    Re: Somthing for the weekend.

    I've committed to doing the Croft Christmas Rally and have a fair bit of additional work to do before i get it a scrutineered for a log book. Cant think of anyone doing rallys in a 5 in the club? Anyone know someone?

    Has anyone logbooked a 5 recently? If so any tips?

    Before i can get it scrutineered i need to make up a 34mm turbo restrictor IAW the MSA blue book, does anyone know of a decent design? Or better have a CAD drawing of a decent one? A short look on the web has resulted in some info saying max 7 degrees after the 34mm section for best flow?

    Oh and the seats i have are stamped for 2002 (sparco evo), how long do they stay in date for? The blue book only says FIA approved, and not much more guidance? I intend to have a dig on the web when i get 5 minutes peace from work...!

    Any help appreciated!

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    Re: Somthing for the weekend.

    Quote Originally Posted by Alastair View Post
    I've committed to doing the Croft Christmas Rally and have a fair bit of additional work to do before i get it a scrutineered for a log book. Cant think of anyone doing rallys in a 5 in the club? Anyone know someone?

    Has anyone logbooked a 5 recently? If so any tips?

    Before i can get it scrutineered i need to make up a 34mm turbo restrictor IAW the MSA blue book, does anyone know of a decent design? Or better have a CAD drawing of a decent one? A short look on the web has resulted in some info saying max 7 degrees after the 34mm section for best flow?

    Oh and the seats i have are stamped for 2002 (sparco evo), how long do they stay in date for? The blue book only says FIA approved, and not much more guidance? I intend to have a dig on the web when i get 5 minutes peace from work...!

    Any help appreciated!
    got an msa log book for mine recently but for hill climbing rather than rallying, your best bet is to call your local scrutineer first and ask him all the questions so your happy with it all before you get him to do the log book.

    top tip is they are fussy as hell with the pic, no other cars in back ground, car must not be clipped back ground must not blur into car it goes on.....

    also the fact he issues a log book does not mean the first time it gets scrutineered at an event they dont pick the hell out of it!

    Good luck with the rallying though, got to be soo much fun!

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    Quote Originally Posted by James George View Post
    got an msa log book for mine recently but for hill climbing rather than rallying, your best bet is to call your local scrutineer first and ask him all the questions so your happy with it all before you get him to do the log book.

    top tip is they are fussy as hell with the pic, no other cars in back ground, car must not be clipped back ground must not blur into car it goes on.....

    also the fact he issues a log book does not mean the first time it gets scrutineered at an event they dont pick the hell out of it!

    Good luck with the rallying though, got to be soo much fun!
    Cheers James, i intend to join the South Hams Motor Club when i get back home from work in a few weeks and get in touch with their scrutineer.

    Did you have to machine a restrictor for your turbo for hill climbs???

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    Re: Somthing for the weekend.

    Quote Originally Posted by Alastair View Post
    Cheers James, i intend to join the South Hams Motor Club when i get back home from work in a few weeks and get in touch with their scrutineer.

    Did you have to machine a restrictor for your turbo for hill climbs???
    nope, no real restrictions on the engine front other than the cheque book. doesn't the carb count as a bloody good restrictor?

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    Quote Originally Posted by James George View Post
    nope, no real restrictions on the engine front other than the cheque book. doesn't the carb count as a bloody good restrictor?
    LOL i wish it did, ive got to get a 34mm restrictor in the intake to the turbo, no further than 50mm from the blades... it should look a little like this...


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    Re: Somthing for the weekend.

    Looking good

    Have you got the restrictor sorted out Alastair?

    Ended up with an air intake and turbo that used to hoover up small children and animals on the sprint car, not looking forward to being 'restricted'

    On the plus front, xmas stages should (!) suit small nimble cars

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blot View Post
    Looking good

    Have you got the restrictor sorted out Alastair?

    Ended up with an air intake and turbo that used to hoover up small children and animals on the sprint car, not looking forward to being 'restricted'

    On the plus front, xmas stages should (!) suit small nimble cars
    Not sorted out a restrictor yet, although i have done some research. I doubt that it will affect our cars significantly as the flow rates arent high enough, but you might have slightly higher charge temps. Most turbo manufacturers produce one but the price varies significantly. Where have you got yours from?

    The stages should suit us yes, i went to watch last year and had a great time, but better to have a go yourself

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    Re: Somthing for the weekend.

    Not sorted with one yet, today was first proper discussion on starting all the work. Will let you know where we go.

    You had any thoughts on tyres yet??

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    Re: Somthing for the weekend.

    A short update on the Rally preps, just got to fit the mudflaps, then sort out why i keep throwing alternator belts... 3 in a few hours is not good i think it might be somthing to do with the wet weather and wheelspin.



    Red switch on the foot rest is for the horn.



    Spare wheel just fits, ally brackets made to it a strap over the top. Helmet net, and ill rivet a plastic tool box into the boot to carry a few essential tools and a jack.



    You can just see the dry break fuel sample point at the bottom of the picture. Ill drop a few pics into an album if anyone is interested.

    Blot, cant wait for the stages now, oh and have you checked you helmet will still be in date, they have changed the regulations, i had to replace mine. If you do upgrade it is worth getting a HANS approved one, Ireland have already mandated it, i reckon next year the MSA will do the same here.

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    Re: Somthing for the weekend.

    I keep throwing alternator belts! It doesn't seem to matter if they are new Bosch ones or old used ones, or how tight I get them. There is no obvious misalignment, I have fitted a belt stop adjacent to the waterpump pulley and I am after some advice, I know some people have had trouble at the pod with the c1j at high revs, my thoughts were:

    1. alternator mounts, being 20 hrs old may be a bit soft? Machine up some solid ones?
    2. Fit a campus bottom pulley - anyone got one?
    3. Fit an idler pulley on the longest bit of belt legnth?

    Any advice appreciated!

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    Re: Somthing for the weekend.

    Check to see if the pulleys are lined up properly matey. Bushes on the alternator bracket may be past there best too, swap the bracket for another.

    I use a campus pulley/belt & have had no probs with belt coming off at high revs. If your keeping the std size pulley get a genuine belt too, there the best imo.

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    Re: Somthing for the weekend.

    Quote Originally Posted by Brigsy View Post
    Check to see if the pulleys are lined up properly matey. Bushes on the alternator bracket may be past there best too, swap the bracket for another.

    I use a campus pulley/belt & have had no probs with belt coming off at high revs. If your keeping the std size pulley get a genuine belt too, there the best imo.
    Cheers Brigsy, i'll have another good look this weekend, if it isn't wet! I'll try and lay my hands on a campus pulley in the mean time, and spin up some alternator mounts on the lathe.

    When you say high rpm are you talking up to 7k? Has anyone needed to fit an idler pulley?

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    Re: Somthing for the weekend.

    Quote Originally Posted by Alastair View Post
    Cheers Brigsy, i'll have another good look this weekend, if it isn't wet! I'll try and lay my hands on a campus pulley in the mean time, and spin up some alternator mounts on the lathe.

    When you say high rpm are you talking up to 7k? Has anyone needed to fit an idler pulley?
    campus pulley you say...with bolt......, i feel a pm coming my way....

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    Re: Somthing for the weekend.

    Shall we compete to see who gets the furthest into the 1st stage?!

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    Quote Originally Posted by jesus in the seat of a 5 View Post
    campus pulley you say...with bolt......, i feel a pm coming my way....
    Forgive me farther for I am about to sin...

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    Re: Somthing for the weekend.

    Quote Originally Posted by Blot View Post
    Shall we compete to see who gets the furthest into the 1st stage?!
    Fire or belt... Place your bets here folks

    I hope your bringing A healthy supply of spares Blot!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alastair View Post
    Fire or belt... Place your bets here folks

    I hope your bringing A healthy supply of spares Blot!

    Did sombody say bet ?

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    Re: Somthing for the weekend.

    Quote Originally Posted by Alastair View Post
    Cheers Brigsy, i'll have another good look this weekend, if it isn't wet! I'll try and lay my hands on a campus pulley in the mean time, and spin up some alternator mounts on the lathe.

    When you say high rpm are you talking up to 7k? Has anyone needed to fit an idler pulley?
    I rev mine over 7k on the o.e gauge mate You should be ok without an idler. There is an idler tensioner setup on another c-series motor though, possibly twingo that might fit if your really stuck.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alastair View Post
    Fire or belt... Place your bets here folks

    I hope your bringing A healthy supply of spares Blot!
    Spares

    5 wheels, 2 jerry cans, a trolley jack, a lump hammer and a large crowbar.

    Oh and a warm coat

    Am hoping to pitch up next to Kev P with his huge team, his ex-Richard Burns WRC and his party bus and motorhome.

    Blot Dingle be the name

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    Re: Somthing for the weekend.

    Just put the decals on, and fitted the mud flaps, ready to be log booked next weekend. Thought I'd share a few pictures.









    Thanks to Boris and all those who have helped me out!

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    Re: Somthing for the weekend.

    I like a lot.
    looks

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    Graphics look well mate

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    Loving that, Al.......Looks quality

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    Thanks guys, the decals Will give me an extra 20 BHP I recon! I can get copies as required for the Coupe massive, they were the super coupe cup follow on follow on series through the 90s.

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    Am lining up a decal protest to the stewards for lunchtime if I'm still running

    looks very

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blot View Post
    Am lining up a decal protest to the stewards for lunchtime if I'm still running

    looks very
    Lol, I'll draft a letter to Warner Brothers as retribution!

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    That looks really good

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    Re: Somthing for the weekend.

    Just got a logbook, very happy!

    Blot, have you had to fit a fuel tank guard? I've been told to fit an alloy tank guard? I thought they were only advisory?

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    Re: Somthing for the weekend.

    Yeah, have got sump and tank guard, about 2 inch thick steel, lovely and light was hoping not to have to run with them...

    time for another blue book reading session!

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    Re: Somthing for the weekend.

    Quote Originally Posted by Blot View Post
    Yeah, have got sump and tank guard, about 2 inch thick steel, lovely and light was hoping not to have to run with them...

    time for another blue book reading session!
    Blot, good news is the sump guard is not needed, but the fuel tank guard is, page 311 (2010 blue book) para 48.10.7 "have substantial under body protection covering any area of a fuel tank exposed to running damage"

    although I would argue as it is recessed it is not exposed to running damage? My local scrutineer said to fit one, but also said that they are highly unlikely to check one is fitted... I'm goin to use thin plywood bonded to a thin sheet of aluminum, as advised by other competitors, but haven't had time to make one yet.

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    Re: Somthing for the weekend.

    Quote Originally Posted by Alastair View Post
    Blot, good news is the sump guard is not needed, but the fuel tank guard is, page 311 (2010 blue book) para 48.10.7 "have substantial under body protection covering any area of a fuel tank exposed to running damage"

    although I would argue as it is recessed it is not exposed to running damage? My local scrutineer said to fit one, but also said that they are highly unlikely to check one is fitted... I'm goin to use thin plywood bonded to a thin sheet of aluminum, as advised by other competitors, but haven't had time to make one yet.
    Why not go the whole hog on weight saving, make it out of mdf and spray it silver

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    Re: Somthing for the weekend.

    Loving this project! Especially like the remote oil filter and hyd handbrake.

    How are the brakes with the rear compensator removed?

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    Re: Somthing for the weekend.

    Update: Blot and I hooked up this AM in a very icy service area at croft, have to say what a nice guy and his missus too. Anyway stages 1 and 2 were lethal, 2" compacted ice. We fitted some gravel tyres on the front and toyos on the rear and gently crept round, with only a minor bump into a bale popping a spot light, good to see blot hammering round with no fear but cracked a bumper piroueting !!! By stage 3 the ice was breaking up and we dropped the hammer, and by stage 4 were setting some competetive and good times. Stage 5 was goin really well untill we though we were dragging somthing, the rear brakes locked on, then released after a few seconds!!!!!!!! So we cracked on and pushed hard. A few miles later on the back straight after a dab on the brakes before the slight left kink they locked up again at full tilt in 3rd. After a lot of catching we eventually spun big time then limped on as far as we could before retiring, forunately with no damage. An awesome day and proved the car has real potential so very happy. As we left he snow was laying thick, 2" fresh on top of the ice, but Blot was soldiering on with tweetie, good luck mate!!! I'll email you some pics of you on track my wife took!

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    Forgot to say we think the rear brake lines froze! There must be some moisutre in there that didn't like being sprayed with ice!!!

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    sounds awsome mate rather you than me in this weather!!!

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    looks great mate , you have done a really good job with the car

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    Just back from the pub! Thanks for the nice comments guys! Really looking forward to the drive tomorrow towing it back. Yorkshire to Plymouth, then to Bristol, then not towing to Portsmouth and back to work... Urgh.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alastair View Post
    Update: Blot and I hooked up this AM in a very icy service area at croft, have to say what a nice guy and his missus too. Anyway stages 1 and 2 were lethal, 2" compacted ice. We fitted some gravel tyres on the front and toyos on the rear and gently crept round, with only a minor bump into a bale popping a spot light, good to see blot hammering round with no fear but cracked a bumper piroueting !!! By stage 3 the ice was breaking up and we dropped the hammer, and by stage 4 were setting some competetive and good times. Stage 5 was goin really well untill we though we were dragging somthing, the rear brakes locked on, then released after a few seconds!!!!!!!! So we cracked on and pushed hard. A few miles later on the back straight after a dab on the brakes before the slight left kink they locked up again at full tilt in 3rd. After a lot of catching we eventually spun big time then limped on as far as we could before retiring, forunately with no damage. An awesome day and proved the car has real potential so very happy. As we left he snow was laying thick, 2" fresh on top of the ice, but Blot was soldiering on with tweetie, good luck mate!!! I'll email you some pics of you on track my wife took!
    Those 1st 2 stages were truly insane in the utter lack of any grip whatsoever!

    Top day, must sort one we can do together again and set up an exclusive R5 service area

    Pics would be great, am assuming they will involve us either going into or coming out of a bale/barrier/spin/arnco

    Driving with snow over the broken ice was great fun, set a couple of good times, all took a turn for the worse at start of SS7, dark, freezing, snowing. They cancelled SS8

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alastair View Post
    Just back from the pub! Thanks for the nice comments guys! Really looking forward to the drive tomorrow towing it back. Yorkshire to Plymouth, then to Bristol, then not towing to Portsmouth and back to work... Urgh.
    safe trip

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    Re: Somthing for the weekend.

    Nice pic on Ian Hardy's site, http://www.ianhardy.net/gallery/main..._itemId=101244

    Keep an eye for Sally's pics of you on http://www.whatnonegatives.com/


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    Re: Somthing for the weekend.

    UPDATE.

    Woznaldo, rear brakes worked really well without the compensator until the below issue showed up!

    Just got round to investigating the brake problem some more, it appears they didnt freeze. What happened was the Wilwood rear bias Vv has failed (i think 95% sure...) and turned into a 1 way Vv, when i removed the union to it at the M/C side the Hyd Handbrake was still pumped solid and wouldnt release, but with the union on the HyHandbrake side of the bias Vv was removed it bled all the pressure instantly and all is well with the HHM/C and the rear brakes free off...

    Ive now removed the bias Vv and bridged the brake lines, just got to bleed and test in a minute, then investigate this damn bias Vv, which shouldnt fail like this! I am hoping a soft seal has gone inside as i cant think of anything else that would cause this. Anyone I intend to replace the bias Vv but am now not keen on Wilwwod ones - are Tilton any better?

    As for the alternator belt issue, a new set of alternator bushes from Renault made a massive difference, but ive stuck on a campus belt and pulley just to be sure - so far so good, cheers for the steer Brigsy!

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    Fixed the brakes, the bias valve is fubared... So much for Wilwood. All it took was a bridge of pipe and a bleed. I'll try and get my money back for the Vv otherwise ill strip it and look for the cause of failure. Good news is the hyd handbrake is back in play , bad news is the knobbly gravel tyres dont look too legal...

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    Re: Somthing for the weekend.

    A booger that it failed but reassuring that it wasn't frozen!

    Those gravels have been great on the snow on the roads, think they might be a tad uncomfortable when back to driving on black tarmac

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    Re: Somthing for the weekend.

    Since the brake bias Vv failure at Croft ive been in touch with Wilwood who say their equipment is not warrantied with Dot 5 fluid - so beware anyone using Wilwood products! Get yourself some decent Dot 4 stuff and you'll be OK. Ive now replaced the valve with a Tilton lever type but am struggling to get enough heat into the EBC redstuff pads on the road to set it up properly, and i just dont like them as they feel like wood on the road - have to say they are very good and consistant on track though - any suggestions on other decent pads that have a good bite from cold from anyone?

    I've also got a suspicion my clutch is starting to go. It took a hammering last time out and getting the car on a trailer with ceased rear brakes (in a rush to clear the stage) didn't do it much good either.

    I've been reading through some previous posts and the next step from a Valeo seems to be a 215mm flywheel and a 4 paddle clutch from techcraft...

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    I've been using the same clutch as haz and scoff cerematalic 4paddle clutch from techcraft...mines roughly putting out 220-235 and 220-230lbft i use it every day or so...and its fine at 20-25psi drives nice with the long arm throw that the volvo 440t offers....i had a sachs and a valeo clutch and both didn't last 2weeks even after pod. bout 300quid down the drain plus fitting....give techcraft a call!.... if your running a 215mm flywheel then take down these notes when you call...7.62mmx215mm a paddle sprung center ceremetalic plate with spline to fit clio172 input shaft. 01926 403721 ps the older 440 460 480 turbo's use 200mm flywheels later 1's use 215mm

    Do the later 215mm flywheels bolt straight up to a C1J? And i take it this set up uses the Valeo cover plate and release bearing?

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    Re: Somthing for the weekend.

    Ferodo ds2500 are pretty good from cold if you cna get them to fit your calipers?

    4 paddle clutch on stock size flywheel is the cheapest upgrade after the valeo, should be ok on your setup.

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