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    changing clutch without taking engine out

    as above is it possible/easy??
    im needing help as mine keeps slipping a lot when boosting

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    Re: changing clutch without taking engine out

    dont know many cars that require the engine out to change the clutch mate

    guess you can just take turbo off and access it from the top?

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    Re: changing clutch without taking engine out

    possible: yes....easy: no

    i've done two and the quickest way is to have the engine out for sure... som'e people drop the engine out the bottom whilst on the subframe, i've only ever done it through the top... it hasn't taken me longer than a saturday morning + afternoon doing it!

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    Re: changing clutch without taking engine out

    Quote Originally Posted by matty j View Post
    as above is it possible/easy??
    im needing help as mine keeps slipping a lot when boosting
    I had to change my box about 5 weeks ago and it was a nightmare keeping the engine in, wish i had taken it out. After i had dismantled most of it would of proberly been quicker

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    Re: changing clutch without taking engine out

    so how would i do it with the engine in??

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    Re: changing clutch without taking engine out

    I would say engine out is the quickest way to do it as well, doesn't take long to get the engine out, only thing is keeping the engine steady whilst you're undoing the stuff on the gearbox etc.

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    Re: changing clutch without taking engine out

    Aye, taking the engine out isn't that hard at all really. But then I would say that, because my Dad helps me, and without his help, I'd probably still be asking whether I should get an electronic supercharger or not

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    Re: changing clutch without taking engine out

    matt, as i said engine out is the best way. and while your at it get a ctm 9slot lightened flywheel

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    Re: changing clutch without taking engine out

    It aint too hard to do it with the engine in either. I usually whip the engine out, but I got caught with a shafted clutch in the wrong place with just my socket set and trolley jack, so had to do it all in situ earlier this year.

    Just whipped off the passenger strut, took the driveshaft out of the hub (just the nut off I think..?) got the turbo and crap out of the way and managed to get enough of a gap between the gearbox and block to get in with the wrench to fetch off the clutch plate.

    I had to turn the engine over to get to each bolt, but hey.. not the end of the world that! Getting it all lined up was a little harder, but take your time and its not too bad.

    Engine out next time for me, but it can be done if needs be. One man job too.


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    Re: changing clutch without taking engine out

    i did a campus in 4 hrs that way(on my own)the turbo would only take a bit longer and i'll be giving it a go next time!

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    Re: changing clutch without taking engine out

    you could drop the subframe and drop the box out the bottom...

    done taht on a 182 but not sure its any quicker?

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    Re: changing clutch without taking engine out

    On a GT Turbo it is by far the easiest way to take the engine out i have found & leave the box in the car


    This is how i do it
    https://www.rtoc.org/boards/showthread.php?t=454

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    Re: changing clutch without taking engine out

    Seriously dude, don't bother trying to do it with the engine in, last I did it took me 2 days to do it, where's as when i took the engine out to change it took 6 hours, its alot easyer and u won't damage the paint in ya bay as much

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    Re: changing clutch without taking engine out

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    defo take the engine out but leave the gearbox in situ...took me about 7hours on my own ...with tools and engine crane...nvr taken engine out on my own before then....just grit ya teeth and get in to doing it...dnt forget to mark up pipes/hose's etc if your in doubt about putting all of it bk in the right place so bottle of tip ex...good luck just take your time.

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    Re: changing clutch without taking engine out

    To be honest once you have changed the clutch with the engine in the car once it isn't too bad to do, last time i done it it was all changed in about 3hrs.

    Take the turbo off and all bits around that area out, pull bothg shafts off, remove the engine mounts and brackets for the box and then pull the box off and remove it out the top of the engine bay. Its abit more involved then that obviously but thats the basic principle of the job. I will be honest it isn't that bad.

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    Re: changing clutch without taking engine out

    Engine out leave box in.. Not a bad job really.. Did one last saturday for a local lad job in and out of garage in 2hrs, he didnt beleave i changed it

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    Re: changing clutch without taking engine out

    Quote Originally Posted by Rob@Backyardracing View Post
    Engine out leave box in.. Not a bad job really.. Did one last saturday for a local lad job in and out of garage in 2hrs, he didnt beleave i changed it
    Not bad going mate

    To be honest Matt J there's no wrong way of doing it, everyone has there own way of doing it it just comes down to which way you find easiest.

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    Re: changing clutch without taking engine out

    matt, i can help you sort it if you want.? providing you supply the kopparberg pear cider, a glass and ice oh and a lift back home when im wasted

    if you want a hand give me a shout.

    • you can start off by removing all the engine bay hoses. i say all as it'll give you a chance to clean them up while there off.
    • remove the turbo.
    • remove the starter motor.
    • remove radiator,i take it out incase of accidental damage.
    • loosen alt belt and pull alt towards the block.
    • lodge a straight edge on the flywheel to lock it in place and then undo the crank pulley retaining bolt and remove it and the pulley.
    just do all that and then ill help you get it out.
    dont worry about the bits youve removed as i know where everything goes when you come to refit it all.

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    Re: changing clutch without taking engine out

    I see you're in Ilkeston Matty I'm just up the road in Heanor .If it drives you're welcome to do it in my garage if it will make life easier .I have a hoist etc ...Raj and yerself should see it off in a day
    Last edited by clee; 07-11-2008 at 18:55.

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    Re: changing clutch without taking engine out

    raj its a deal
    clee nice one that would help alot as its drivable just doesnt like boosting as it slips

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    Re: changing clutch without taking engine out

    Quote Originally Posted by Rob@Backyardracing View Post
    Engine out leave box in.. Not a bad job really.. Did one last saturday for a local lad job in and out of garage in 2hrs, he didnt beleave i changed it

    how that much for the job rob? might take you up on doing mine lol

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    Re: changing clutch without taking engine out

    2 hrs is quick where do you live

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    Re: changing clutch without taking engine out

    will be buying my clutch on the 21st so if its ok to bring it over once i get it??

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    Re: changing clutch without taking engine out

    when taking engine out, do you have to take the turbo off? cant you just take off the down pipe/elbow instead

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    Re: changing clutch without taking engine out

    If your lifting the engine out the top you only have to remove the exhaust from the downpipe, leave the downpipe attached to the turbo

    https://www.rtoc.org/boards/album.php...pictureid=2493

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    Re: changing clutch without taking engine out

    Quote Originally Posted by matty j View Post
    2 hrs is quick where do you live
    It was fast as i know the car well and built the engine and whole thing up for the lad a while back and i do away with alot of hoses also theres two of us on the job . I prob would help peeps out on cars i havnt seen before depending, but it would take longer to a new car as alot of things a bodged together with home made looms and snapped bolts etc. (im not saying anyones cars are like this, just some i see). I have a selected few local members i help out with tune ups etc only because i know the cars well and there owners..

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    Re: changing clutch without taking engine out

    personally i'd charge £150 to change the clutch... labour only!

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    Re: changing clutch without taking engine out

    Quote Originally Posted by Sparkie View Post
    personally i'd charge £150 to change the clutch... labour only!
    agree...

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    Re: changing clutch without taking engine out

    Quote Originally Posted by Sparkie View Post
    personally i'd charge £150 to change the clutch... labour only!

    Done when's good for you ?

    The GTA ' Experts' are about £1200 ......I can do mine in half day ...ok ,I have a few bits missing and it's been in and out a few times but I still reckon a day tops ....I'd like that hourly rate

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    Re: changing clutch without taking engine out

    always work on a rough £20 per hour rate.

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    Re: changing clutch without taking engine out

    Got a clutch any1 game to help me out change it?

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    Re: changing clutch without taking engine out

    Offer's still open to do it at my place ....I don't understand 5s though so grab yerself a Guru .
    Not 13/14th tho as there plans afoot for GTA's.....

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    Re: changing clutch without taking engine out

    i have a finger that maybe of use to point to the relevant parts you need to remove and refit so you can change the clutch

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    Re: changing clutch without taking engine out

    Are you bringing your little helpers ???
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    lol, i dont think we'd get anything done if i did

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    Re: changing clutch without taking engine out

    its a deal whens best for every one as im off at the mo chillin so im free

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    Re: changing clutch without taking engine out

    Well my garage is always here ...I work from home so no bother to me ,anytime you guys want to pile up and do it is fine within reason .I just need to move old JIL out into the nasty cold .
    It's only 15p for a cup of tea and 20 for a coffee as well

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    sweet nice one will see if raj is availible then im up

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    Re: changing clutch without taking engine out

    is anyone else availible to be my guru for the day

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    Re: changing clutch without taking engine out

    any one availible to give me a hand as its gutting just watching my 5 being sat there would love to drive it

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    Re: changing clutch without taking engine out

    Quote Originally Posted by matty j View Post
    any one availible to give me a hand as its gutting just watching my 5 being sat there would love to drive it
    Where abouts is Ilkeston mate, i might be able to give you a hand over the christmas period. I got 3 other gearboxs to do so should be use to it by then

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    Re: changing clutch without taking engine out

    Started mine today, thought id just take the lot out as saves the hassle of splitting the box/engine in the bay.

    Disconect everything attached to eninge and box and straight out the top.

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    Re: changing clutch without taking engine out

    Quote Originally Posted by Markey Mark (BD) View Post
    Where abouts is Ilkeston mate, i might be able to give you a hand over the christmas period. I got 3 other gearboxs to do so should be use to it by then
    Ilkeston is Derbyshire dude not sure how far from you it is??Clee is lending his garage to use so needing a guru you in??

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    Re: changing clutch without taking engine out

    Ahhh well ..................The GTA is up on 4 stands having a Winter once over .
    We'll have to move stuff out the way but should still get your nose in and room to do the change .

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    Re: changing clutch without taking engine out

    Quote Originally Posted by matty j View Post
    Ilkeston is Derbyshire dude not sure how far from you it is??Clee is lending his garage to use so needing a guru you in??
    What day you thinking of doing it mate? iIm about 1.5hrs from you, not too bad as i get to use my work van and don't pay for diesel

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    Quote Originally Posted by Markey Mark (BD) View Post
    What day you thinking of doing it mate? iIm about 1.5hrs from you, not too bad as i get to use my work van and don't pay for diesel
    week between Xmas and new year could be good if it's ok for everyone??

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    Re: changing clutch without taking engine out

    I can do sunday mate, the week is abit busy for me as i have work monday, a 5 to do on tuesday and then going out on wednesday.

    If thats ok let me know and we'll sort out a time mate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Markey Mark (BD) View Post
    I can do sunday mate, the week is abit busy for me as i have work monday, a 5 to do on tuesday and then going out on wednesday.

    If thats ok let me know and we'll sort out a time mate.
    I can only do the Monday as I'm In Manchester then working tues wed

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    Re: changing clutch without taking engine out

    Bit stuck then mate, can you do any other day after new years? I'm about the friday, sat and sun.

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    Re: changing clutch without taking engine out

    Everyone ok for the 28th???

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