My winter project

[5teve L]

Well since I am now fed up with the C1J I am going F7P turbo.
I will add pictures & progress reports here as I go, I will attempt to give a good detailed report as well

Parts bought so far:

F7P engines x2, should be able to make one good engine from all the parts.

Aim is to rebuild & turbo the F7P, hopefully it will be more relaible, less stressed & put out the same power as my old GTT (maybe a little more). The hope to get it up & running for frog of the pod 2011 (assuming we have one next year )
I will try to use my T3/25 for a while & then prob end up with a 200sx or GtiR turbo.
Having not even looked at a F7 engine I hope I can do it , should be ok, I rebuilt my old Rover 220 engine & put that on DTA & limped it to Track n Road to be mapped a few years ago, lol.

[Rob@Backyardracing]

If you can build one engine your can build pretty much most others, all are the same principal... Good look with the project mate, looking forward to updates..

[TrixNFlix]

So what power output did you get from your old c1j then Steve?

[5teve L]

If you can build one engine your can build pretty much most others, all are the same principal... Good look with the project mate, looking forward to updates..

Cheers Rob, hopefully it all goes to plan

So what power output did you get from your old c1j then Steve?

Not this last one but the one I had in my old car should have been around 220bhp ( going on my 12.78 SQM @ 108MPH) It was RR at track n Road at 209bhp/207lbft @ 20 psi on low comp pistons & then I added some Scoff spec forgies & ran 24 psi... never went back though but did the 12.78 on that spec..

[Rob@Backyardracing]

p.s, id give a t04e a try on that size motor, youcan get the cheapy chinease ones for £100 new! make great power those turbos, and there really easy to get hold of/spares for. ran our 1st 10 on one of those with 1590cc, forget t25`s

[rs250nut]

Big turbo ftw, more hp less boost.Probabley be a bit kinder on the old gearbag. As well coming in higher up the rev range.

[5teve L]

Big turbo ftw, more hp less boost.Probabley be a bit kinder on the old gearbag. As well coming in higher up the rev range.

Yeah I will see what happens 1st with the car.. decide what to do later on when I get closer to dropping the lump in.....

[5teve L]

OK, picked up a phase 1 R19 16v for a donor car, damn shame to break it up as it doesn't look half bad... got it for £300, has the ABS/brake fault but the engine is good
Can I use the discs or anything else off the car for my GT Turbo, are they wider track like the clio?

[dangerous dave]

OK, picked up a phase 1 R19 16v for a donor car, damn shame to break it up as it doesn't look half bad... got it for £300, has the ABS/brake fault but the engine is good
Can I use the discs or anything else off the car for my GT Turbo, are they wider track like the clio?

take what you need off it and slap it back on ebay, some people are backwards and will give you more money for a 19 with no engine than they will for one with mot and tax...

try ya luck

[turbo ted]

OK, picked up a phase 1 R19 16v for a donor car, damn shame to break it up as it doesn't look half bad... got it for £300, has the ABS/brake fault but the engine is good
Can I use the discs or anything else off the car for my GT Turbo, are they wider track like the clio?

steve you can sell me the front shocks and lowering springs there's some money back for you as i need a set for my 19v track car that i kept was going to use it for my conversion but i had to much fun on the track at mallory going sideways in the rain

[5teve L]

Not sure if it's worth breaking or trying to sell as a rolling shell, the OZ rims must be worth something, but then that only really leaves the suspension thats worth anything & the car won't be rolling then either....

[dangerous dave]

Not sure if it's worth breaking or trying to sell as a rolling shell, the OZ rims must be worth something, but then that only really leaves the suspension thats worth anything & the car won't be rolling then either....

whats the market like for spares? the gtt's flooded, you can't break an oe one like back in the day and make any money.. perhaps people are waiting for a few parts off a 19 16valver, give it a week or 2 to drum up some interest on ebay etc and get it broken and gone asap..

[HAndy]

keep the hubs mate,they have bigger bearings in them ,and will be better for cornering etc with the extra weight of the f7p in the front

or give them to me, i could do with a few spares

[HAndy]

keep the exhaust manifold also ,the mounting plate could be useful for building a log/tubby for your turbo,unless you intend on cutting the bulkhead away to squeeze in that t04e
just a thought

[HAndy]

keep the exhaust manifold also ,the mounting plate could be useful for building a log/tubby for your turbo,unless you intend on cutting the bulkhead away to squeeze in that t04e
just a thought

with the k-tec type manifold that is

[SCHWARTZ]

dont supose it was you driving down the a217 (where the surrey meet is) earlier today saw a r19 16v go past sounding ace

[5teve L]

dont supose it was you driving down the a217 (where the surrey meet is) earlier today saw a r19 16v go past sounding ace

Nah, I was on a bar going down the A24 mate scary stuff actually when you get cocks pulling out on the driver not realising he was towing me, even with the hazzards on

[SCHWARTZ]

that was most prob me cutting you up oh well hope yours sounds like this did as it was ace. How many surrey meets am i going to have to wait to see the finished product then

[5teve L]

that was most prob me cutting you up oh well hope yours sounds like this did as it was ace. How many surrey meets am i going to have to wait to see the finished product then

Well I hope to drop the N/A in soon so maybe the next meet it will be there , Turbo will be ages yet...... hopefully sometime next year (hopefully by May...), I'm but a mere window cleaner so gotta go earn the money 1st...

[car.crash]

I'm but a mere window cleaner so gotta go earn the money 1st...

eggs are cheap and a worthy investment in this case

[5teve L]

eggs are cheap and a worthy investment in this case

They're a right bugger to get off once dry as well

[philr5t]

OK, picked up a phase 1 R19 16v for a donor car, damn shame to break it up as it doesn't look half bad... got it for £300, has the ABS/brake fault but the engine is good
Can I use the discs or anything else off the car for my GT Turbo, are they wider track like the clio?

what do you want for the whole car then steve

[5teve L]

Bit of progress today, got the lump nearly ready to come out..
https://www.rtoc.org/boards/album.php?albumid=1220

[James5]

About time you pulled your finger out thought you were slacking

I will be over straight from work tomoz matey and we can get on with the next phase

[5teve L]

About time you pulled your finger out thought you were slacking

I will be over straight from work tomoz matey and we can get on with the next phase

If we get the lump in the 5 I will be happy...

[James5]

If we get the lump in the 5 I will be happy...

Don't see why we won't you got a GTX front engine bracket?? or does the 19 valver come with a bracket?

[5teve L]

Don't see why we won't you got a GTX front engine bracket?? or does the 19 valver come with a bracket?

Valver has it already matey, just need to know if I need the ally PAS bracket that attaches to the mount or not to help mount the alternator...

[James5]

Valver has it already matey, just need to know if I need the ally PAS bracket that attaches to the mount or not to help mount the alternator...

We will have a look at the bits you have tomorrow, doubt you will need that bracket, I think you will need the lower alt bracket and use the gtt adjuster arm for the top sort

[SCHWARTZ]

on the b18ft the alt adjuster arm fowls on the crossmember dont think its the same but may want to have a trusty grinder handy

[James5]

on the b18ft the alt adjuster arm fowls on the crossmember dont think its the same but may want to have a trusty grinder handy

I had to the same when i did the F4r conversion. My modified alt bracket below
https://www.rtoc.org/files/Technical%...n/IMG_4745.JPG

[SCHWARTZ]

i cut the front edge off so it was about half as thick gave plenty of mm@'s clearance

[5teve L]

I just can't believe my luck at the moment, got the engine out ok (thanks James) , spot some rust on the back so take the starter off to get a closer look, feck me the cnut has a cracked block not fecking happy at all.

4 hours in the freezing cold for feck all....

[TrixNFlix]

Now that is unlucky again, i'd blame James, he always has bad luck. What's the plan now then?

[Tony Walker]

gutted for you mate

[5teve L]

Now that is unlucky again, i'd blame James, he always has bad luck. What's the plan now then?

Yeah, it's either James or the jinxed Raider, can't make my mind up which though

I really do feel like scrapping the lot at the moment I'm that pi55ed off.
Bidding on a clio lump on ebay now, see how that goes... at least I have lots of spares......

[TrixNFlix]

I know how you feel as do alot of fellow r5 owners. When the chips are down the r5 mishaps seem to be relentless. Hang in there buddy and it will all come good in the end.

[5teve L]

At least I spotted it before I dropped the lump in, I reckon I'd have been forever chasing a coolant leak...

[SCHWARTZ]

Hard luck matey thats just pure dog sh1t bad luck. Blame james

[5teve L]

Hard luck matey thats just pure dog sh1t bad luck. Blame james

I can only blame James for so long.....
Oh well, looks like I will be going turbo before it goes back on the road...

[TrixNFlix]

Scoff, what are the odds of someone buying a c1j with a cracked block then buying an f7p with the same problem? sorry Chris, I couldn't resist!

[James5]

Why do I have this feeling people are blamming me is a fecking big crack though across the rear of the block

Steve, can't believe it after spending all that time in the cold freezing our bollocks off to finally getting the engine out after a dodgy engine crane spunking it's load over us

Defo worht taking a look at that engine in the link I gave you ok it says needs hydrolic lifters, you have a few spares now so could make 1 decent engine out of the 2

Anyone know of a decent F7p block down south ??

[car.crash]

Anyone know of a decent F7p block down south ??

I know of a Badass one but it's just been dropped into a black 5

[5teve L]

I know of a Badass one but it's just been dropped into a black 5

Can't wait to see how that goes.
I'm going for less power than Robbie I think... I hear over 270bhp & the gearboxes turn to chocolate...

[car.crash]

The speed that guy works is unreal he's just constantly at it. A few weeks ago it was just 2 old blocks now it's all in and pretty close to be wired. I hope you have deep pockets steve as it doesn't look cheap.

[5teve L]

The speed that guy works is unreal he's just constantly at it. A few weeks ago it was just 2 old blocks now it's all in and pretty close to be wired. I hope you have deep pockets steve as it doesn't look cheap.

Depends which way you go, you can go standard or piston skim, R21 injectors & MAP sensor 0.5 bar boost for a few hundred quid, or otherwise it's about £1300 with a high boost chip & forgies/full build, add another £1000 for aftermarket ecu...

[5teve L]

Going to be picking up another engine today, will be whipping out the pistons & sending them up to Scoff to dish them for me & then run a low boost chip I picked up off Shackal.
Also picked up a big brake kit, swapped it for my old 13" speedlines & the oil feed with filter as I need a new one anyway for the F7 build
Also spoke to CR Turbo & they can stick a .64 rear end on my turbo for £100 so that will save me a bit for now as well.

[5teve L]

Picked up some dark greens now as well ready for high boost

[tom t]

christ how many engines have you got now lol.
will keep my eyes on this when are you hoping to have it done?

[5teve L]

christ how many engines have you got now lol.
will keep my eyes on this when are you hoping to have it done?

Hope to have it running in a couple of months, need to strip the other engine & hone it or bore it depends if I go forged or just dish some standard pistons, still undecided about that.
The head needs a refresh as well yet & I need to get the block drilled & tapped for the drain plus I need to get a hose made up but will leave that till get the engine in so I know how much I need to keep it away from the manifold & turbo.
Downpipe may be my stumbling block for a while as well....
Oh, & I only have 2 engines, well..... one half decent one

[Markey Mark (BD)]

I see you managed to pick up an engine with a Williams exhaust manifold on it or is it a Williams engine?

https://www.rtoc.org/boards/attachmen...3&d=1291496560