ive scraped the cash together to get me an alloy intercooler, am i best getting the double for the extra money or will the single be ok for relativly mild modifications?
ive scraped the cash together to get me an alloy intercooler, am i best getting the double for the extra money or will the single be ok for relativly mild modifications?
I carried out a 'test' of various intercoolers a good few years back. To cut a long story short, GT Tuning's double capacity intercooler came out as the most efficient at reducing charge temp's.
Saying that, the o.e intercooler fairs well upto mediocre levels of boost.
olly what money you talking? go the whole hog and geta fmic saves you doing it later. or go double.
ive been told mines 14psi , im just frightened i pop it,when i put my foot down, so for peace of mind im going to invest in analloy one, gt tuning u say, great ill invest,are they simmillar price to the forge? not too cheap!!
Originally Posted by Ross99
which would u recommend ,i only want to buy this thing once
If your not upping the boost more, just buy a single core alloy job. No point in going fmic unless you want to up the power a lot.
Personally id just strap & flap the original intercooler, take about 30 mins tops.
im hoping to gain experience an gradually modify the car so in the future so i dont want to out grow any purchase i make now. i just want to try and make it bullet proof so i dont blow the car when im hoofing it occasionally
It will be fine as it is, you worry too much mate!
Bring it down mine at some point, ill strap/flap the intercooler if you like, cheap & reliable mod.
i am a worrier,because im so limited in knowledge at the moment , if it goes t1ts up at the side of the road ,ill be f***ked.
Get decent breakdown cover if you haven't already, a must for these cars sometimes
For that level of boost/power, I'd personally mod' the standard intercooler by removing the thermostat & gubbins, divert the air full-time through the core, seal it back up, and run it thus so.
If you're gonna up the boost later down the line (>20psi), then maybe consider an alloy job.
If you're planning on ultimately running high power, then a front mount intercooler is best...or a charge-cooler.
if i throw some money at it mate will you fit it and charge it up as a job, id be happy to pay you to do it and know its done right. it is the money i had sidelined for some turbs but im having no luck getting themat the min
dont worry, if you blow the intercooler apart the car is still driveable. it just wont get past 80mph, and it gets there very very slowly!
cheers,thats reasurring.at the minute ive been driving my car like a tw*t, and then thrashing my wifes colt turbo
cheers,thats reasurring.at the minute ive been driving my car like a tw*t, and then thrashing my wifes colt turbo
on a off road race way i hope , watch what you say, you dont know whos watching
if you want it done right everything has to be up to sratch
oh yeah always on an off road race track, what you think id do it on public roads?on a off road race way i hope , watch what you say, you dont know whos watching
if you want it done right everything has to be up to sratch
just checked this morning, the intercooler has already been strapped, so it may be ok then, im itching to spend some cash on the car and improve it, any suggestions?
Since its working fine invest on peripherals such as suspension,tyres,brakes,silicone hoses,etc so when it's time for serious power you will have a car that'll be able to manage the extra power and be more reliable.Moreover most of these things are D.I.Y and you'll get to know your car better.
Suspension and brakes maybe?
good thought , ill do that,the kits of about 14 samco hoses go for about 250-300 on ebay is this about rightas i can use buy it now and get them changed all in one go
Personally, id spend that money on the suspension first fella. At least you 'feel' some improvements for your money. Depends what you want though?
little bit of chat about it here.
https://www.rtoc.org/boards/showthrea...ght=suspension
alot of people lower the rear torsion bar
https://www.rtoc.org/boards/showthread.php?t=458
and change the front springs for -30/-50mm. much cheaper option to improve the handling. Theres plenty of people on here who will be able to let you know what they believe is best.
looking at cars with samco hoses, seen this one on ebay, is the dump valve in the right place?
http://i15.ebayimg.com/03/i/001/10/c3/f283_1.JPG
a lot of people on here seem to rate koni
I put KONI adjustables on mine!! They are Greeeeeeeeeeeaaaaaaaaaaaatttttttttt!!!
if u still wanted alloy intercooler my mate has got a pace single core sittin there.. plus not only being able to hold more boost without poppin it will also reduce charge temps a bit aswell..
Ill doubt a pace single core interwarmer will reduce charge temps at all...if u still wanted alloy intercooler my mate has got a pace single core sittin there.. plus not only being able to hold more boost without poppin it will also reduce charge temps a bit aswell..
Olly do the suspension/brakes first, wouldn't bother with the silicone hoses you wont see any performance benefits, all yours looked to be in good nick anyway.
Get some koni yellows on it, torsion bar reset. Set of mintex 1144 or ferodo ds2500 pads up front & your away.
fitted a double capacity alloy cooler to my 11 on saturday mornin and with out alterin the boost it seems to run a whole lot better
might be that the old cooler was leaking but if it was it wasn't lettin much go just seems to come on boost a lot better and harder as well
but i gonna be doin me torrsion bar next weekend as well as already dropped the front by 25mm the handling is much better........................
now just need to get to and do the back
i personally rate the pace single core cooler an tests have proved it to be more efficient than standard.. also the strenth so ul never have to worry about it blowin apart..
Iirc when mart tested all the std intercoolers back to back on trusty with a decent act gauge the single alloy pace intercooler was no more efficient than the std cooler. The only one that was worth a look was the gt tuning double capacity cooler
Fail.
i still beleive it to be a better unit even if its only to stop it blowing apart..
I prefer believing my own findings, as opposed to sales shpiel bollox found in 'lax power' esque magazines
many people use these with good results.. these are big companies that obviosly test then manufacture there product an invest in there products research.. so if there findings an a club member with some home testing/findings tend to differ then who knos, u must both be on different pages lol
All you need is a test site, and Charge temp reader, and a nice selection of intercoolers, believe mart had all this and a track to rag his car around. I remember reading that the standard one was good. but as everyone else has said depends on what PSI you are wanting to run.
This is probably the best one that you can fit in the standard position................
If you decide to get a front mount cooler, you can have both together, just pipe them both in. That way you havent lost money buying the above.
Keep in mind that a strapped and flowed standard cooler will take a good 24 psi!!
Best to spend the money on suspension and brakes though, i would love some Koni yellows !
Koni'sare Orderedthis Is Probably The Best One That You Can Fit In The Standard Position................
If You Decide To Get A Front Mount Cooler, You Can Have Both Together, Just Pipe Them Both In. That Way You Havent Lost Money Buying The Above.
Keep In Mind That A Strapped And Flowed Standard Cooler Will Take A Good 24 Psi!!
Best To Spend The Money On Suspension And Brakes Though, I Would Love Some Koni Yellows !
Im Concsious That Its 17 Years Old And Totally Original, So All I Want To Do Is Alter The Suspension, Put On Some Colour Coded Turbines,when I Sourse Them And Make Engine Improvements,
Thenthe Carshould Look The Dogs And Ill Have Not *******ised It, Dont Worry It Aint Going To Be An Ali G Gtt
Sorry For Upper Caseimnot Shouiting, Must Have Hit Caps Lock
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[quote=GanJaMan;12805]This is probably the best one that you can fit in the standard position................
If you decide to get a front mount cooler, you can have both together, just pipe them both in. That way you havent lost money buying the above.
Keep in mind that a strapped and flowed standard cooler will take a good 24 psi!!
I think the advise on here is getting worse!! It wont take 24psi and if it did it would not cool efficiently.
Why would you pipe a front mount and a std cooler together?? For a start you looking at filling 2 volumes.
i personally rate the pace single core cooler an tests have proved it to be more efficient than standard.. also the strenth so ul never have to worry about it blowin apart..
We already know the 'tests' comment is baseless and at the pressures a pace intercooler could withstand over and above a strapped OE cooler, you'd have blown something else in the engine long before.
It's a complete waste of money save for the bling aspect.
The difference being, is that I say it as it is and have nothing to gain from bullsh1tting people; never have, never will, nor am I trying to sell them something in the process.many people use these with good results.. these are big companies that obviosly test then manufacture there product an invest in there products research.. so if there findings an a club member with some home testing/findings tend to differ then who knos, u must both be on different pages lol
If you believe that everything you buy is exactly what it says on the tin, then that's your opinion & prerogative. However, as you'll hopefully find out yourself over time, all is not what it's sometimes cracked up to be in the gtt engine tuning game.
Maybe try taking some measurements of your intercooler yourself. You might be surprised with your findings.
If you can't be bothered to do that, perhaps take note from those that have many many years experience of gtt's & the after-market products available for them, instead of trying to belittle said people with facts you can't substantiate.
As above...
And Sam, you make it out as if the companies making these tuning parts are making the highest quality parts, with F1 engineering precision, and have poured millions into research, which quite frankly, just isn't the case.
it is indeed a bit naive to believe that tuning companies know best. I assure you they frequently don't.
anyone for a gt-tuning dump valve?
mi erd it dubalz da boozt
ill vouch for that, i bought the motor induction thing and apparently its pants, i was taken in by the bullsh1t
never mind though if i take the motor off ive got an air filter for a ££££100 poundsill vouch for that, i bought the motor induction thing and apparently its pants, i was taken in by the bullsh1t
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