R5 GTTurbo 2

[Trevhib]

Great work.

In the vids there is a distinct rattle. I'm guessing it's normal for these engines? Or perhaps it's something external?

[SCHWARTZ]

Handy I also have the knock tek as I have megasquirt let me know how it goes

[Brigsy]

Proper job

[TNT ANDY]

Great work.

In the vids there is a distinct rattle. I'm guessing it's normal for these engines? Or perhaps it's something external?

I think that's Andy's Mastertorium noise!

[HAndy]

im working on it

not sure on that noise, it comes and goes. clears after a few revs and then comes back again if idling for a while, really do hope its not the bottom end knocking

[Tony Walker]

Did notice that too, perhaps its a bit of piston slap if youve got some forged ones in there? i think a few people have had that.

[HAndy]

Did notice that too, perhaps its a bit of piston slap if youve got some forged ones in there? i think a few people have had that.

yes Tony you could be right, they are forged wossner pistons, only seems to do it if sat idling from cold. in the past once its been for a run there is no other noises apart from the exhaust burble at idle

[Trevhib]

Phew

[Tony Walker]

[Andy M]

Think you wasted your time and effort and fitted the wrong type of engine. Forget automotive, should have looked to the sky's like this old codger

http://youtu.be/CDBFAt3uqrc

http://youtu.be/ZWPqmfD-PkA

[Os8472]

im working on it

not sure on that noise, it comes and goes. clears after a few revs and then comes back again if idling for a while, really do hope its not the bottom end knocking

I'm betting the noise is the chewing gum

[Trevhib]

Think you wasted your time and effort and fitted the wrong type of engine. Forget automotive, should have looked to the sky's like this old codger

http://youtu.be/CDBFAt3uqrc

http://youtu.be/ZWPqmfD-PkA

Wow! That thing looks pants in the first video in terms of performance. Then watch it on the 1/8 mile track in the second video!

[HAndy]

maybe next year

might try and get os84721 to stuff one in the back of his 9, that would certainly bring old codger to life

[Os8472]

maybe next year

might try and get os84721 to stuff one in the back of his 9, that would certainly bring old codger to life

Lol it'd certainly get it shifting but no, I have other plans for the 9

[Andy M]

Wow! That thing looks pants in the first video in terms of performance. Then watch it on the 1/8 mile track in the second video!

I'd want it just for the noise

[mattk]

Hey Handy, how's this little beast progressing? Or has she been tucked away over the winter months?

[HAndy]

Hey Handy, how's this little beast progressing? Or has she been tucked away over the winter months?

tucked away until the house purchase goes through and i get my new garage/workshop built

[TNT ANDY]

Booooooooooo

You suck

Welcome to the real world Mummy's boy.

[mattk]

tucked away until the house purchase goes through and i get my new garage/workshop built

Fair enough buddy

[HAndy]

Booooooooooo

You suck

Welcome to the real world Mummy's boy.

now dont be like that mr stot, it will be on the road this year, but not just yet

anyway get your own car in order before you booo others

[Os8472]

now dont be like that mr stot, it will be on the road this year, but not just yet

anyway get your own car in order before you booo others

His has been on the road more than once in the last year though so he can booooooo and so can I

[JRph1]

love the engin ein this top job mate

[TNT ANDY]

now dont be like that mr stot, it will be on the road this year, but not just yet

anyway get your own car in order before you booo others

Booooooooooooooo even more lol

[HAndy]

love the engin ein this top job mate

thankyou

might even get it mapped end of march

[mattk]

thankyou
might even get it mapped end of march

Fantastic, hope the mapping goes well

[HAndy]

well time for an update, car is on the rollers on the last friday of this month, built some home made det fenders, using some of my old ear defenders from work, and bolted in place of the o.e knock sensor position on my 1.8 f7p head, (had a bolt machined up to match the head) along with the electronic knock tec device, also the 560cc injectors which i was going to use in the second fuel rail, are really low impedance, and proving to be a nightmare to get resistors for, and were probabley still to small for the boost i wanted to run, and i dont want to piss about with the injector loom again, so bit the bullet and bought some 80lb siemens deka high impedance injectors instead, there suppose to be good for 875cc @ 3bar fuel pressure, coupled with the 350cc injectors ive got in the head, gives me just over 1200cc, which should be more than enough for the 2 bar of boost im going to run, without pushing the duty cycle to much.

the high lift/short duration cam combo+uprated springs and caps /fully flowed ported head with megane inlets/williams exhaust valves should really help here, sticking with the modded o.e inlet plenum with the ****ty restrictive tb, replaced for the single 86mm id aftermarket type, i know others have had good results with shorter runners /fabricated inlets, but i really want to keep as much ftlb as possible, something shorter runners lose, now that i have a 02m gearbox in place, i should have nothing to fear, ive got the space why not, that and the equal length tubular exhaust manifold should really breath all the way to 8800rpm although i expect i wont see full boost until around 4000/4500rpm @ 2bar but there has to be a compremise somewhere

i have fitted the biggest compressor housing(.70) and almost the biggest turbine housing( tial type.82) to the gtx3071r, at 2 bar it may well be fairly close to choke up, although i have found a .106 single scroll housing in the states if needed, to be honest if it chokes up i will leave it as is , i would really like to make the 500whp, fingers and toes crossed it will with a bit of jungle juice

[mattk]

Wow 2 bar boost pressure , and 500whp the power to weight ratio will be awesome.

I look forward to seeing the rr results and how the setup works out mate

Have you got any update pictures?

[HAndy]

Wow 2 bar boost pressure , and 500whp the power to weight ratio will be awesome.

I look forward to seeing the rr results and how the setup works out mate

Have you got any update pictures?

no sorry, to be honest nothings changed on the inside/outside

i still intend to make composite doors/boot/wings and bumpers for the blue coffin next year , so hopefully it will reduce the kerb weight further, as well as get rid of anything else that will rot out over time
my goal is to get back down to 845kg

[mattk]

no sorry, to be honest nothings changed on the inside/outside

i still intend to make composite doors/boot/wings and bumpers for the blue coffin next year , so hopefully it will reduce the kerb weight further, as well as get rid of anything else that will rot out over time
my goal is to get back down to 845kg

Approximately 550hp @ fly
Approximately 845kg
Equals approximately 650hp per tonne

[TNT ANDY]

well time for an update, car is on the rollers on the last friday of this month, built some home made det fenders, using some of my old ear defenders from work, and bolted in place of the o.e knock sensor position on my 1.8 f7p head, (had a bolt machined up to match the head) along with the electronic knock tec device, also the 560cc injectors which i was going to use in the second fuel rail, are really low impedance, and proving to be a nightmare to get resistors for, and were probabley still to small for the boost i wanted to run, and i dont want to piss about with the injector loom again, so bit the bullet and bought some 80lb siemens deka high impedance injectors instead, there suppose to be good for 875cc @ 3bar fuel pressure, coupled with the 350cc injectors ive got in the head, gives me just over 1200cc, which should be more than enough for the 2 bar of boost im going to run, without pushing the duty cycle to much.

the high lift/short duration cam combo+uprated springs and caps /fully flowed ported head with megane inlets/williams exhaust valves should really help here, sticking with the modded o.e inlet plenum with the ****ty restrictive tb, replaced for the single 86mm id aftermarket type, i know others have had good results with shorter runners /fabricated inlets, but i really want to keep as much ftlb as possible, something shorter runners lose, now that i have a 02m gearbox in place, i should have nothing to fear, ive got the space why not, that and the equal length tubular exhaust manifold should really breath all the way to 8800rpm although i expect i wont see full boost until around 4000/4500rpm @ 2bar but there has to be a compremise somewhere

i have fitted the biggest compressor housing(.70) and almost the biggest turbine housing( tial type.82) to the gtx3071r, at 2 bar it may well be fairly close to choke up, although i have found a .106 single scroll housing in the states if needed, to be honest if it chokes up i will leave it as is , i would really like to make the 500whp, fingers and toes crossed it will with a bit of jungle juice

Lookign forward to seeing this done Andy, will she be at national day?

Might do a Fast and Furious night to get the juices flowing LOL.

[SCHWARTZ]

I can see a wheelie coming
how did you get on with that knocktek device? did it indicate knock at all before you heard it? That is if you heard knock hopefully not.

[HAndy]

Lookign forward to seeing this done Andy, will she be at national day?

Might do a Fast and Furious night to get the juices flowing LOL.

that depends on the house buy ,still lots of bull**** going on

my grandparents place is now empty, so i have weekends back to myself again from next week

and ive got the audi to test& insure again

[HAndy]

I can see a wheelie coming
how did you get on with that knocktek device? did it indicate knock at all before you heard it? That is if you heard knock hopefully not.

give me chance not running boost yet, but it didnt give any false blips few months back , when running on 3 cylinders, so its got half a chance

(feed to the coil pack had worked loose , running on 3)

[TNT ANDY]

that depends on the house buy ,still lots of bull**** going on

my grandparents place is now empty, so i have weekends back to myself again from next week

and ive got the audi to test& insure again

Coolios - welcome to the world of juggling

[TNT ANDY]

Good luck tomorrow Andy, hope you get the figures your looking for, or there abouts. If not, get to Scoff for some real mapping.

For those that don't know, Handy's build has come to this point, and hopefully this will be the part where he stops building and gets driving.

Good luck buddy - wish I was there to witness this happening.

Get some VT shot.

[TNT Tricky Nicky]

What time are the rollers booked? Should be in the area at lunch time

[Mr Raider]

Good luck Andy, hope all goes well tomorrow, still time to make ND

[Tony Walker]

Good luck..... looking forward to the figures

[HAndy]

thanks guys

will be up at emeralds from 10:00am onwards

post code is IP25 6DR unit 6 Watton, if anyone needs it

got everything crossed, really do hope it makes the numbers this time

[Dave Reed]

Good luck mate... Oil those rollers down

[DaveMayGTT]

Are u waiting for someone to ask?

What's the results?!

[Tony Walker]

[TNT ANDY]

Sent a text yesterday, and had no reply. Must be good, last I heard they where mapping a vr6, which is typical for Walkers place,

[mattk]

Hope all went well buddy

[HAndy]

sorry for the late reply , been really pissed of mood yesterday, to the point if there was a can of petrol ,and matches i would have tourched the ****ing thing!!!!! turned out to be a complete waste of time
car was worse than ever,

need to look at the cam timing today, as it was suggested it was causing the issue, although im not convinced it is that, as we tdc it and dial guaged lift etc, and all seemed acceptable as to pipers spec for 285 profile, exhaust was also seemed ok , although there are no offical measurements for these cams anywhere

engine would not run more than -9 degress retard on ignition full stop

and the 02m gearbox decided to throw up oil out of the breather tube when under load, is this a common effect with theses or did i over fill it, (just so its level with on fill up bolt /hole in the front of box )

air intake temps= 55 at 24 psi although the k type air temp showed 35 degrees
egt =680 degrees
produced boost from 2500rpm

bhp was around 330bhp at 24 psi which i thought was utter ****e, considering all the headwork, manifolds etc


im going too look again at the timing today, and sort out a breather system for the box, and find where the coolant sprung a leak from also

and compression test, although i will be really surprised if that shows anything a miss, the engines only done 1800milesand a 1000 of them where running in under varying loads

[stu21t]

Not good.
Chin up, you'll get there.


Mines been off the road for nearly 2yrs as I wanted to "improve" the inlet design and chargecooler setup lol.
Just take it easy, it will be worth it eventually lol.

[HAndy]

compression test done, no 2 is way down 45 psi, 3,4 were 175psi and 1 was 160 psi,
took of cam cover and had a feel, inlets fine and tappets turning freely, exhaust wouldnt budge, turned over cams until inlet/exhaust valves on no 2 cylinder all closed, and did a pressure test, no leaks found on exhaust side or in header tank or inlet, holding pressure with minimal leakage, didnt have a cylinder leak down kit but coupled the compression tester plug thread tube with a compressor line attached running 130psi, took out the cam carrier and inspected the tappets ,didnt look good, going to put in some good second hand items and try again

[TNT Tricky Nicky]

Don't get too down andy, what you've done so far is great, I love the look and feel of the blue sideways coffin, was a shame things didn't go as expected, was hoping to see a good run

I did say no. 2 manifold runner looked hotter than the rest so something isn't quite right, figure it out and I'm sure you'll get the results

[HAndy]

will post up tomorrow if its cured the problem, fingers crossed.... i dont want to really pull the head off

[TNT ANDY]

Gutted.