The Dog got a good slap she twocked them
The Dog got a good slap she twocked them
cheeky mongrel
you must be getting close to completion or something like it? really impressed with the speed and thought put behind this entire project
i hope tomorrow that it will be ready top start and tick over, been itching all week but thought just wait till the inter cooler is on and the waster pipes are back,
Ordered pedal box tonight
not far off at all then
Well, a little pissed off with the way i have had to route the pipe work for the cooler, i didnt think the altinator would be on the way, so there is more pipe work that i would want. But its looks OK i suppose. i may as well have got a twin pass now
Excuse the blue pipes forgot to pick up the black stuff Friday so will replace when i tighten them all up this week
Got my boost controller Apexi AVCR
Water pipes fitted, Just need to finished them off onto the turbo and get a new 172 rad, the one i have has been sat onyou can see by the photos.
I hope this will be alive Tuesday, then it will be Tidy up the engine bay time.
is there space forward of the strut tower engine mount to cut a hole and run a pipe through? There is on the 5, but that doesn't have that mount.
Well ive both lost the internet ( due to a company digging up roads!!! ) and intrest in the car due to various reasons so ive not been on here for about a month!!!
Big updates, photos will be posted tommorrow.
Had massive issues getting the piece of **** to start and used 2 starters and more electric from charging batterys than the whol eof the uk uses!! But after many swearing and more calls to both Scoff and my Mate Andy Carr ive managed to find the issue my self LOL
Updated list of parts
1) Pedal Box with Bias Bar
2) Internal Brake Pipes
3) Digi Dash unit
4) Toyo Proxi R888 Tyres
5) New Dash froma Mark 1 172
6) New Starter x 2 LOL
7) New Altinator
8) A divorceLOL
Lots to do for mot in a weeks time!!!!!! Look at the colour of the roof!!!!
Oh and me being a daft get i got some plugs from Renault too £37.60 not too bad
Last edited by andyrg; 03-04-2010 at 20:35.
It's nearly always the simplest of things! glad it's running
Thanks for all the help so far Chris
Well a few more updates.
Weve decided to go for a DIGI dash too resolve the issue with the speedo, got that all sorted today and working a treat too
We had to remove the master Cylnder and servo for the down pipe! So in the meanwhile we had to install the pedal box, which was spot on and looks pretty trick
Break lights are a isse so were going for a hydrolic switch type in the break lines and sesnors pressure when the pedal is pushed ( i love techology )
We installed the new radiator too so thats sorted that and all sensors connected too the ECU and Dash are now complete
Installed new RAD
List to do before thursday night
1) Rear Discs and Bearings ( play )
2) Bleed Brakes
3) Install Brake Switch
4) Clutch Cable
5) Install Drivers Seat
6) finish off tidying some wires in the bay
7) Install the Bloody Dash
8) Fill the Gear Box with Oil
9) Install Air Filter
13) ( hahah ) Cut the front bumper for the intercooler!!! Ekkkkk
Last edited by andyrg; 05-04-2010 at 10:39.
so far so good keep it up looks well and i bet it will go well also
1) Rear Discs and Bearings ( play ) DONE
2) Bleed Brakes DONE
3) Install Brake Switch DONE
4) Clutch Cable DONE
5) Install Drivers Seat DONE
6) finish off tidying some wires in the bay DONE
7) Install the Bloody Dash
8) Fill the Gear Box with Oil DONE
9) Install Air Filter DONE
13) ( hahah ) Cut the front bumper for the intercooler!!! Ekkkkk DONE
The cars now driving and apart from one oil leak things are looking well
Here are a few photos
I treat my self to a new dash
Sweet!!
You bringing it to Pod?
Originally Posted by Big Steve - Raider
Sweet!!
You bringing it to Pod?
I am Affraid not, apart from it not being fully tested yet, Well have our new addition to our family this week, Our little baby
Andy
That is one sweet looking clio !
Thought it was time for a little update.
Oil Leak
Clutch
Out of action.
We had a small oil leak that was so little and annoing it couldnt be found, we assumed it was the crank seal as the oil was from between the box and the block, as the clutch started to slip, So out came the engine and all, and i decided to get a Helix Paddle Clutch at a very good price. Once the engine was out there were no signs of any oil on the clutch or in the box its self, we did notice the sump was weeping, so we replaced the oil crank seal and the sump gasket too make sure, re sealed the end cap too. Refitted and Spot on no Leaks or Slippage of the Clutch Happy Days.
I am having some issue with turbo surge now tho, if you load the car up in 3rd or 4th between 2200rpm and 3500rpm the car just holds back its defo turbo Surge,
We have fitted a Hall Sensor so we now have Lanuch Control ( thansk to www.efi-parts.co.uk ) Chris shipped this out next day. Along side the Coil Pack he sent me too which again was here the very nexy day.
new bonnet aeros and mirrors
Today we went to York Raceway, What a waste fo time that was 3 runs in 5 hours! Rain Wetness and just a utter gash setup. we mannaged a 15.33 13.11 and a 12.88 pretty disapointed but the car has "ching wang chang" tyre and a Marshall, These were just tyres on the wheels when i got them, as the other wheels we have are not road legal
Here are a few photos of the progress from the last month,
Last edited by andyrg; 30-05-2010 at 20:18.
12.88 isnt to be sniffed at on road tyres! What trap speeds have you done?
Wonder how the j series box will fair with launch control
110 mph mate just no grippppage
Will be good for a low 12 with decent tyres, well done
Good times on road tyres!
Saw you today, an hour or so ago, on my way out of Crook.
I was eith taking Speedy for a spin or on my way back from york
Yo Ashy if there was a handsome ******* in the passenger seat when you saw him it was when he was taking me for a spin LOL
Anyway I had a ride up to Andy's to pick up some 182 hubs so that I can drill and tap them and fit a hall effect sensor so that I can run speed sensitive boost settings.
He still had the car on the drive from when he got back from york so we jumped in and headed off to the garage to put a bit of air in his tyres as he'd let a little out whilst at york in a bid for better traction. After that we headed out onto the rural roads, whilst not driving like a **** he gave a fair example of just how brutal the acceleration is, the fact he was getting wheel spin through each gear was just stupid. I must point out that this is a track car with an mot so the suspesion was pretty solid and the amateur gymnastics trying to climb over the roll cage also made me chuckle.
Obviously the biggest thing most people are interested in is the actual engine conversion. It works extremely well, obviously the traction issues Andy's suffering are a lot to do with the unforgiving suspension and the "family killer" tyres but there is a very strong wave of power from low down in the rev range all the way to the red line, he is suffering a bit of turbo surge which is under investigation to try and rectify it.
I honestly think that people who are toying with the idea of this kind of hybrid F4R/F4RT engine conversion will definatley go for it if the get a chance of a spin out in this. So all in it's been a top job
12.88@110 on road tyres is bloody good.
To me, and quite a few others it's the 110 that's the interesting number. If my Twingo goes 97 I'll be happy.
We were happoy about that ill post the slips up when i scan them in at work
I can't believe I've never sent his thread!!
awesome project.. when you swapped the internals did the f4rt crank fit the 172 flywheel and in turn enable you to use a 172 clutch with a r5/172 gearbox?
yes andrew, Ill get some photos this time its in a zillion bits
Well, After our little mishap at Rockingham, and melting a piston due to a fuel pressure reg issue ( opps )
Two weeks later were ready to rock and roll again, still bits too but a lot closer to drop in this weekend
oh and here is speedy if the timing is wrong then its his fault
And for the record Andy asked me to pull a face like Sloth from the Goonies, I don't normally look like that
And for the record Andy asked me to pull a face like Sloth from the Goonies, I don't normally look like that
LOL
Just what ive been waiting for
New Bearings Main and Big End
New Piston and Rings
New Seals
New Gearbox
Lets hope a new start
Just ordered a AFR from Efiparts.co.uk
Shes back in the bay lets hope i can just have some bloody fun!!
Looking good matey. I bet this conversion has cost a fekin packet!!!
Well We have operation lift off, It starts
I love when a plan comes together, the starter is only 3 months old but its sqwarking now pile of **** ! i think ill take that back, sound strange on start up putting that too the starter.
Got all sorted just need too do some miles and test the engine and make sure all is tight etc, Lets hope i have better luck now
Andy
not very tidy on here
good luck mate
AFR of 11.5 at idleGot all sorted just need too do some miles and test the engine and make sure all is tight etc, Lets hope i have better luck now
LOL i didnt knwo what too set the FPR at so i set ti too 3.75 to be safe i am sure it was set to 3.5bar, duno why it just was ill changce it tommorrow
As Ollie has already said 11.5 is a rich afr for idle you want to be about 14.7 on idle and at wot you want to be around 12.1
that little bit of extra fuel pressure won't make the idle that rich. Are you sure that you've set the sensor up right as it'll idle pretty bad if it really is that rich.
With your cams you might be able to get a nice idle at 14.7, but often you'll need to richen it up a bit from there.
[quote=Andrew Cooke;163180] Are you sure that you've set the sensor up right as it'll idle pretty bad if it really is that rich.
[quote]
yer i did ........... honest!!!!!! lol ( gets home pulls the user book out oppps )
which wideband did you plug for andy lad? i've just about installed the AEM effort from scoff parts.co.uk ;-)
how you finding using it?
the same AEM mate, no set up required its plug and play AFRS now are 14's so im happy
i dont have a cluw hwo it works LOL ill wait till its mapped and get them too explain
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