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    Lol, good post.

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    cheers people, will retard it a bit and see what happens, i take it damage is caused over time, as its been high boost/comp for a long time, and i've never touched the timing before.

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    Re: my ginger mobile, from start to present... pic heavy!!

    [quote=J8TRO;212378]Never go full retard






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    [QUOTE=TNT Tricky Nicky;212514]
    Quote Originally Posted by J8TRO View Post
    Never go full retard





    Oi ya cheeky git

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    Quote Originally Posted by J8TRO View Post
    LMFAO

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    Re: my ginger mobile, from start to present... pic heavy!!

    bit of progress over the weekend

    got my box of bits back



    repainted gearbox



    refitted gearbox after cleaning and painting subframe





    got the cam in the engine, and started to build it back up



    got a new clutch and flywheel



    old and new



    still to do though...


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    Re: my ginger mobile, from start to present... pic heavy!!

    just had 4 new liners machined down by 1mm ready to fit, awaiting piston back from 'dishing'

    got a piper vernier fitted now, and baffled sump ready to go on.

    got to change valve springs, and port match head and inlet then its back together

    also should have some dirty big brakes for the front coming thanks to r5rich

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    Re: my ginger mobile, from start to present... pic heavy!!

    Mark what clutch is that you have now fitted??

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    Re: my ginger mobile, from start to present... pic heavy!!

    Quote Originally Posted by James5 View Post
    Mark what clutch is that you have now fitted??
    its an OE 215mm 172 clutch, but the friction plate relined with kevlar and modded cover plate by kestrel clutches

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    Re: my ginger mobile, from start to present... pic heavy!!

    little update:












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    Re: my ginger mobile, from start to present... pic heavy!!

    Tight as mate! do those calipers clear the wheel by a few mm then? or catching?

    Looks awesome though!

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    Re: my ginger mobile, from start to present... pic heavy!!

    Quote Originally Posted by Robclio98 View Post
    Tight as mate! do those calipers clear the wheel by a few mm then? or catching?

    Looks awesome though!
    0.25mm clearance! had to grind the calipers too

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    Re: my ginger mobile, from start to present... pic heavy!!

    got the head done finally, 3 hours of swapping springs and grinding valves later...






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    Now get that mofo in there Markey chap.

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    Re: my ginger mobile, from start to present... pic heavy!!

    Quote Originally Posted by TNT ANDY View Post
    Now get that mofo in there Markey chap.
    still a piston short... hopefully have it machined this week

    spent a bit of time yesterday on it, cleaning the bay, sorting wires, then decided to check my water injection..... lucky i did!

    turns out the pump wasn't working, so changed the relay and really low pressure. after a couple of hours of messing about ripped apart the pump and cleaned and flexed all the o-rings... now it works properly again

    i think lack of w/i was the cause of the pop, as it relies on it heavily at high boost

    from now on w/i check will be part of my weekly/pre thrash checks

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    Re: my ginger mobile, from start to present... pic heavy!!

    still waiting on piston, so been painting/cleaning/polishing








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    Re: my ginger mobile, from start to present... pic heavy!!

    finally! new piston is machined and on my old rod!

    just got to pick it up 2mora and then 2mora night engine will be back in

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    Re: my ginger mobile, from start to present... pic heavy!!

    friday nights progress....











    happy oil pressure






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    Re: my ginger mobile, from start to present... pic heavy!!

    last nites backwards progress, engine out again....

    new duff flywheel out





    new new flywheel being drilled





    back to square one again, engine goes back in tonight (again)

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    I can't believe you can whip engines in and out in an evening. Kudos to you sir, my planned engine transplant has my knawing on my nails!

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    Re: my ginger mobile, from start to present... pic heavy!!

    Quote Originally Posted by bigdur View Post
    I can't believe you can whip engines in and out in an evening. Kudos to you sir, my planned engine transplant has my knawing on my nails!
    i'm no mechanic, just a few pipes to take off, drop starter down on driveshaft, bellhousing bolts, steady bar, OSF engine mount, TDC sensor out, bottom pulley off and throttle cable etc and it lifts straight out, leaving box in situ

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    Re: my ginger mobile, from start to present... pic heavy!!

    Hopefully once I get started I'll be ok, awesome car though, get some more vids up on youtube

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    Re: my ginger mobile, from start to present... pic heavy!!

    engines now back in and ready to go :-)

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    Quote Originally Posted by markey b View Post
    i'm no mechanic, just a few pipes to take off, drop starter down on driveshaft, bellhousing bolts, steady bar, OSF engine mount, TDC sensor out, bottom pulley off and throttle cable etc and it lifts straight out, leaving box in situ
    Plus it's been in and out so many times nothing is seized or rounded off LOL

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    Quote Originally Posted by TNT ANDY View Post
    Plus it's been in and out so many times nothing is seized or rounded off LOL
    this is very true, if it has to come out again i'll put it back with wingnuts to save time the next time

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    Re: my ginger mobile, from start to present... pic heavy!!

    all done, got it back in and running wed eve, thurs eve off and last night big thanks to jimmy_b for the big help changing master cylinder and load valve, and brake bleed

    new master cyl and load valve



    standard 18mm master cyl and new 23mm



    posh oil



    putting back together





    hopefully give it a shakedown over the weekend, just waiting for my water injection pump to come back from aquamist and it'll be ready for some big boost

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    Re: my ginger mobile, from start to present... pic heavy!!

    friday - water injection pump back
    saturday - fitted pump
    sunday - its now broken again

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    Quote Originally Posted by markey b View Post
    friday - water injection pump back
    saturday - fitted pump
    sunday - its now broken again
    That's a ****ter

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    Quote Originally Posted by James5 View Post
    That's a ****ter
    it was well worth breaking it..... kept up with my mate on his motorbike!

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    Quote Originally Posted by markey b View Post
    it was well worth breaking it..... kept up with my mate on his motorbike!

    I hope Aquamist are going to srt out the pump properly this time for you so you can have some more fun with the 5

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    Quote Originally Posted by James5 View Post
    I hope Aquamist are going to srt out the pump properly this time for you so you can have some more fun with the 5
    the pump is fine, its the car thats broken! smokes like a red arrow on light throttle, and knocks under load

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    Quote Originally Posted by markey b View Post
    the pump is fine, its the car thats broken! smokes like a red arrow on light throttle, and knocks under load

    Feck me you've only just put it all back together, I take it this was down to a det problem. Think your going to have to turn the boost down Mark

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    Quote Originally Posted by markey b View Post
    the pump is fine, its the car thats broken! smokes like a red arrow on light throttle, and knocks under load

    Feck me you've only just put it all back together, I take it this was down to a det problem. Think your going to have to turn the boost down Mark And listen to det

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    most likely, havnt looked at it yet but wanted to change oil pump anyway. dont mind if it's another piston but will prob turn it back down to 27 went pop at a long pull at 34 lol

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    Re: my ginger mobile, from start to present... pic heavy!!

    got it up to workshop last sunday after snapping the only remaining towing eye clean off en route

    last wed did comp test, no1 was 60psi the rest were all 130psi, head off piston out and no1 has had a meltdown

    saturday was piston machining day, 4 new pistons 0.5mm off the top then a 2mm dish to lower the comp a little more

    last nite put in pistons and new crank, bottom end now built n ready to go

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    Quote Originally Posted by markey b View Post
    most likely, havnt looked at it yet but wanted to change oil pump anyway. dont mind if it's another piston but will prob turn it back down to 27 went pop at a long pull at 34 lol
    I haven't kept up to speed with the finer details of your thread (I'm always looking at the ace pics), but I do know you have water injection. However, when you say it went pop at 34 but you'll probably turn it back to 27, don't tell me that's psi.

    You absolute nutter. Lol Has anyone ever managed a reliable, everyday boost level over 22-23psi on a road-going C1J?

    Certainly, if you were having joy at 27psi, that's the most I've ever heard of and good on you. 34psi though, surely =

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    Re: my ginger mobile, from start to present... pic heavy!!

    Mark, has your car been setup for the 34psi? or even the 27psi? have you been monitoring afr's? what afr's you been seing @ WOT, do you know what charge temps you are getting also.

    Also what position is your TDC sensor? only ask as on my old MSM VNT engine and the engine I built after that I had to run full retard and that was 2 different engine's.

    I found the water injection on a 50/50 mix would only allow me to run an extra 2-3psi more boost before det problem's. What fuel pump you using and also what fuel pressure regulator you using as you must be needing to upgrade the pump beyond the phase 1 now and getting and adjustable FPR. Might be worth you looking into EFI if you want to fuel safely and be able to adjust timing to avoid det problem's for that amount of boost.
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    Quote Originally Posted by James5 View Post
    Mark, has your car been setup for the 34psi? or even the 27psi? have you been monitoring afr's? what afr's you been seing @ WOT, do you know what charge temps you are getting also.

    Also what position is your TDC sensor? only ask as on my old MSM VNT engine and the engine I built after that I had to run full retard and that was 2 different engine's.

    I found the water injection on a 50/50 mix would only allow me to run an extra 2-3psi more boost before det problem's. What fuel pump you using and also what fuel pressure regulator you using as you must be needing to upgrade the pump beyond the phase 1 now and getting and adjustable FPR. Might be worth you looking into EFI if you want to fuel safely and be able to adjust timing to avoid det problem's for that amount of boost.
    it was set up for 27psi by mike himself, it went up to holding 34psi after the 285 cam and tubular manifold. i normally run it at a bar for day to day use, using an in car bleed, so most of the time its rich, at 34psi was sitting at 12.3 AFR but its hard to look and drive when its on boost as its savage

    my TDC is fully advanced, on a high comp engine its bad news, but i did run it for years with no problems. fuel pump is whatever mike48 fitted and its got an FSE fuel pressure reg set up on the rollers at jamsport.

    oli's 5 put me off EFI as i run a VNT and wouldn't get rid just for EFI, plus it cheaper for me to keep putting pistons in (i have a stockpile now) than go EFI

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    Quote Originally Posted by markey b View Post
    it was set up for 27psi by mike himself, it went up to holding 34psi after the 285 cam and tubular manifold. i normally run it at a bar for day to day use, using an in car bleed, so most of the time its rich, at 34psi was sitting at 12.3 AFR but its hard to look and drive when its on boost as its savage

    my TDC is fully advanced, on a high comp engine its bad news, but i did run it for years with no problems. fuel pump is whatever mike48 fitted and its got an FSE fuel pressure reg set up on the rollers at jamsport.

    oli's 5 put me off EFI as i run a VNT and wouldn't get rid just for EFI, plus it cheaper for me to keep putting pistons in (i have a stockpile now) than go EFI
    I can imagine @ 27psi it's very savage let alone 34psi your mad.

    VNT + Advance TDC + High Compression = is not good

    With the new compression maybe you should look into mappable ingition getting rid of the old GTT AEI and slipping a 16v coil pack in it's place and having seperate management just for the ingition would be well worth it and still retain carb have a word with Logg as he has done it recently on his 5 and I would say it would be a very good benefit for your 5
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    Quote Originally Posted by markey b View Post
    at 34psi it was sitting at 12.3 AFR but its hard to look and drive when its on boost as its savage

    my TDC is fully advanced, on a high comp engine its bad news,

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trevhib View Post



    Standalone ignition and Carb

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    Quote Originally Posted by James5 View Post
    I can imagine @ 27psi it's very savage let alone 34psi your mad.

    VNT + Advance TDC + High Compression = is not good

    With the new compression maybe you should look into mappable ingition getting rid of the old GTT AEI and slipping a 16v coil pack in it's place and having seperate management just for the ingition would be well worth it and still retain carb have a word with Logg as he has done it recently on his 5 and I would say it would be a very good benefit for your 5
    yup electronic ignition is next

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    Mark have to say my mega jolt has transformed my car at 16 psi feels like 20-22 on old management at 22-24 its bloody amazing. just make sure the trigger dont slip ala mallory park, thats what caused my det. If you need any help if you do go this route just ask me

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    Quote Originally Posted by TNT!hammond View Post
    Mark have to say my mega jolt has transformed my car at 16 psi feels like 20-22 on old management at 22-24 its bloody amazing. just make sure the trigger dont slip ala mallory park, thats what caused my det. If you need any help if you do go this route just ask me
    yeah its the next logical step oli's experience has put me off full EFI with a vnt lol

    just gotta sell the tungy and i'll have some dollar for the ecu. hopefully they do a version that'll read off a 16v or scenic flywheel so i wont need a trigger wheel

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    Quote Originally Posted by markey b View Post
    yeah its the next logical step oli's experience has put me off full EFI with a vnt lol

    just gotta sell the tungy and i'll have some dollar for the ecu. hopefully they do a version that'll read off a 16v or scenic flywheel so i wont need a trigger wheel

    Scoff will be the man to talk to about what is needed matey prob need a trigger wheel though

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trevhib View Post
    hope u got a big bag of popcorn, ignition wont be for a while, got the R11 to build and bike test/bike/gear in the priority list before the ginger

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    Quote Originally Posted by markey b View Post
    hope u got a big bag of popcorn, ignition wont be for a while, got the R11 to build and bike test/bike/gear in the priority list before the ginger

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    Re: my ginger mobile, from start to present... pic heavy!!

    productive evening last nite, got engine off the stand, flywheel and clutch on and bottom end back in the hole, head on and most things connected back up. just need to put on rad, intercooler and cooling system and its back again

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    Quote Originally Posted by markey b View Post
    productive evening last nite, got engine off the stand, flywheel and clutch on and bottom end back in the hole, head on and most things connected back up. just need to put on rad, intercooler and cooling system and its back again

    You work quick, but how long will it be together for again Turn that boost down

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