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    Boost control/setup

    Ive got a t28 fitted, with a -31 actuator, yet I can't get anything above 9-10psi above manifold pressure with the rod completely wound in.

    If I slip a bleed valve on, its fine, boost to where I want.

    I dont want the bleed valve in place, so how can I increase the boost further ?

    And Scoff, in that other thread I forgot to mention that the actuator is wound all the way in

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    Re: Boost control/setup

    Dodgy actuator, how stiff is it if you try and move it by yourself?

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    Re: Boost control/setup

    Quote Originally Posted by Bigfoot View Post
    Dodgy actuator, how stiff is it if you try and move it by yourself?

    Have to agree sounds like the act spring is not wanting to hold any more boost I take it you have the rod as small as you can get it. Nothing wrong with using a bleed valve to get the extra psi matey (It's only a prob when peeps turn it up without the fueling to match).

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    Re: Boost control/setup

    I have a gt tuning spider valve and adjustable boost controller in the car, Mark linked it up to his LM1 to get the afr to match for the time being until I get it on the rollers to wind the boost up a bit more at a later date

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    Re: Boost control/setup

    I dont want to have to use the bleed valve, I trust my right foot

    Fuelling is spot on for 20-21psi

    I'll get a bike pump and boost guage and test that actuator today as I'm bored of 9psi

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    Re: Boost control/setup

    Quote Originally Posted by Bigfoot View Post
    Dodgy actuator, how stiff is it if you try and move it by yourself?
    As its fully wound in, impossible, almost

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    Re: Boost control/setup

    Actuator, boost leak, heavily leaking wastegate.

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    Re: Boost control/setup

    Quote Originally Posted by Mart View Post
    Actuator, boost leak, heavily leaking wastegate.
    Could be all of the above but why would the bleed valve make such a huge difference ?

    I've got a -34 actuator kicking about so I'll see if it improves with that in situ.

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    Re: Boost control/setup

    I may even try the -31 with no actuator pipe in place... ...followed by ...

    As long as I can get 20lbs, Ill be happy

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    Re: Boost control/setup

    I can only get my -31 up to 24ish psi at the turbo, have to bleed off for more boost. If theres no boost leaks dont worry too much.

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    Re: Boost control/setup

    Brigsy, if I can hold 20lbs with no actuator pipe, I'll be more than happy

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    Re: Boost control/setup

    lockwire it shut and see what happens, you'll be able to control the boost with your trusty right foot

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    Re: Boost control/setup

    What are you implying andy?!

    Just went out, boosts very steadily upto 20lbs with no actuator pipe connected, mind you, I wasn't accelerating hard.

    Just having a cup of tea, then I'll adjust the arm length so that I can achieve no more than 20lbs with no pipe in place

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    Re: Boost control/setup

    You shouldn't run more than 6mm preload on a turbo. Half a hole in the actuator rod over the wastegate is just right. Any more and you overspeed the turbo, this chokes and will damage it.
    You are supposed to bleed air to the wastegate. That's all any boost controller does, limits the pressure going to the wastegate.
    Wind the actuator to 6mm pre load and bleed the rest off to what you want.

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    Re: Boost control/setup

    sorry to sound dumb... but what is preload?? is it the amount turned on the actuator?? how does this affect anything?? (other than the boost needed to open wastegate)

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    Re: Boost control/setup

    Stu, I've just done exactly that

    For me, the bleed valve felt too aggressive coming into boost, I was aiming for a more progressive build up that doesn't dive off.

    I've just been out again, boosting to just over 20lbs at full throttle, I'll wind the arm back in some more to keep it in check

    No actuator pipe ftw

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    Re: Boost control/setup

    Is that 20psi map? Not wise to run without the acutator working as such, as if there is a boost leak somewhere your turbo could be over-speeding something crazy just to make that boost level.

    Measure boost at the turbo outlet if you can. If it reads substantially higher than map, that'll indicate there's a leak between turbo & inlet manifold.

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    Re: Boost control/setup

    Manifold pressure is 20lbs Martin.

    I'll shove a boost guage into the comp housing take off and see what I am doing. It'd be better jus after the housing but I don't have a take off to stick in my ally boost pipe.

    Infact, I'll stuff a boost guage where ever I can take a reading for boost.

    I've plugged it all back up for now, back down to a lowly 9lbs lol

    It's way too wet for full throttle antics at the moment

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    Re: Boost control/setup

    And you saw at ND what happens to a turbo when a turbo it over speeds didn't you spooky........

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    Re: Boost control/setup

    Quote Originally Posted by Spooky View Post
    I'll shove a boost guage into the comp housing take off and see what I am doing. It'd be better jus after the housing but I don't have a take off to stick in my ally boost pipe.

    Infact, I'll stuff a boost guage where ever I can take a reading for boost.
    Most comp' housings have a removeable blanking plug/grub-screw, where you can then screw a nozzle in, and connect your boost gauge piping onto that. Course, if it was plumbed the 'correct' way, you'd already have the actuator fed off the compressor housing

    Measuring boost off the housing is more ideal as that covers the boost pipe to intercooler, intercooler itself and so on downstream to the inlet manifold.

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    Re: Boost control/setup

    Quote Originally Posted by stuTHC View Post
    And you saw at ND what happens to a turbo when a turbo it over speeds didn't you spooky........
    No that was just a botched job

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    Re: Boost control/setup

    Martin, the original plan was to feed the actuator via that comp housing take off.

    Couldn't find the damn adapter though, so I'll be nipping to Pirtek tomorrow.

    I'll have a play again tomorrow and post up how I get on

    I will have 20lbs of da boost

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