The old lump is in and running like a good-unNot that smokey at all really. Paul B has just finished welding the jacking point and it's ready to MOT next week
I might just tempt fate and buy a track ticket for nat day .................................
Did the crank trigger time up ok ?
Yes all fine Chris .Bolted the pulley trigger setup on the new/old lump and away she went
I'm now able to get on a bit with the Adapt development fingers crossed .
Had a good look over the old lump and caps 1 & 2 are misaligned to the block ,also the end float is **** ............................Bigger, better plan is forming for the rebuild .
I have got horrendous clutch judderOnly in first , all other gears it's fine .This is just pulling in and out of the garage ,but the engine nearly leaps out the back .I'm hoping it'll go away once it's had a run ...............The clutch is only 1k old and looks fine ................
Is it hydraulic ? all bled up OK ? just guessing mind
Yes it's hydraulic ,all engages fine and dandy .Reverse is fine as is 2nd,3rd etc ....I can pull off in 2nd no worries .......
Still does it after a few sneaky blast round the block2nd gear starts and it's fine all through the box .
Will not have 1st at all without the extremely violent shaking .Reverse is fine as well .1st is 3.36 reverse is 3.55 so if anything it should be worse in reverse if its contaminated ??
Paul ,book me in for the MOT asap please ,I want to give it a good run out .
did you swap clutches or was that the one on the old engine...
if son, might just be a bit of surface rust on the plate .....
see how its goes or if it beds in with some miles..
It's the old clutch off the last lump but it was new 1k ago .
you can have 12 o clock today if you want.......Originally Posted by clee
Still does it after a few sneaky blast round the block
Will not have 1st at all without the extremely violent shaking .Reverse is fine as well .1st is 3.36 reverse is 3.55 so if anything it should be worse in reverse if its contaminated ??
Paul ,book me in for the MOT asap please ,I want to give it a good run out .
I haven't had time to finish the underside .Do you think it'll be OK ?
of course.....LOL
and the Gang !
I'll be down in a bit ,I'll put the towing eye on first though and mayhap the rear cover ........
But what a Rodney
It helps if you do up the lower bellhousing bolts innit tho
Still was very easy to correct with it up on the ramps .All Mot'd and ready for action .Cheers Paul ,hope your head feels better soon
well , I am back and feeling better...LOL..cheers..
Good to know she is sorted,your number plate lights are bright, I can see them from here...LOL...
you know you want a ramp, don't you...LOL....3 phase.....DO IT....LOL
They must be cause they're in a drawer in the garage
The new lump is a bit smokey but hey it's working .
Last edited by clee; 08-09-2008 at 17:41.
Why are you having a prob with the idle valve Lee, Its a synch?
Not for me it isn't Dave .It's always been problematic .Been running with the throttle plate slightly open and a ' leak ' in the boost pipe and it starts and runs and idles so it's something less to worry about .I'm only using the car for fun these dayswell sometimes it's fun but never boring .......
Where you been at then ?
Well if you just leave the valve in place and dont have it connected (power wise), the car will still idle at 1050 there abouts.Not for me it isn't Dave .It's always been problematic .Been running with the throttle plate slightly open and a ' leak ' in the boost pipe and it starts and runs and idles so it's something less to worry about .I'm only using the car for fun these days
Where you been at then ?
You shouldnt have a problem, Ive done loads...One output to one side 50hz, one output to the otherside (50hz inverted). Set it to open loop, then just fiddle with the max and min duty gains and coolant temp gains till it sits where you want it to.
Ive been relaxing, bored of talking about cars now. Getting old
Spunkey misses you
I've slapped the DV next to the throttle now so nowhere for it to go .It works for me .Next on the list are bigger injectors .The turbo is being run in at 10lbs until after nat day .
she'll be skipping round Mallory before you know it.......
you could put a diamond on your number plate lights, like the bat-sign then shine into the sky when you need help......LOL
Lol, have you seen his Delorean Turbo vid? It does 0-60 in like, 10 seconds.Spunkey misses you
I've slapped the DV next to the throttle now so nowhere for it to go .It works for me .Next on the list are bigger injectors .The turbo is being run in at 10lbs until after nat day .
dave, lee's idle valve was defective so it didn't get done in the mapping - lee if you can find a worker then I can send you over some common settings for it if you want to set it up and twiddle the settings ? it'll help cold running too.
That might involve buying a new one so no thanks
I've tried 4 old ones and they are all ****e ........
I'm never in any hurry to get away anywhere so it sitting for a while doesn't hurt .
No, not seen that vid .He hasn't mention it on raoc .I had a nose round Robs car at wsr .Lol, have you seen his Delorean Turbo vid? It does 0-60 in like, 10 seconds.
Oh the comedy..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ViF3YfNqkfM
Weve got some working operational settings for the ISCV on his original map (from my old GTA with Adaptronic). Like you say, must be the valve or wiring.
valve was sticking I think, lee will remember better
Wack em with a hammer, I kid you not! One of mine is playing up at the mo, quick tap, back to normal.valve was sticking I think, lee will remember better
Best to rob the same unit of a newer n/a car like a Clio that hasnt had 25 years of oily hot boost going through it.
but we iz profesionalz
Use a professional hammer then, duhbut we iz profesionalz
Yes. If I give it a damn good slap it stops idling at 2500........I'm not going to get out at the lights and bitch-slap it every time though ......
Gone back to having a idle valve again .Chris ,can you send me the tweaked figures for it please
Every GTA will be different, as its not running closed loop. Cam timing, wear, turbo size, idle bypass screw, throttle plate position, looseness of the engine, exhaust backpressure all affect the amount of air going through the engine at idle. On a closed loop system, this is all irrelevant as the ecu just alters the valve position to the target RPM, on your open loop system it doesnt. Copy Petes old settings and then fine tune from there.Gone back to having a idle valve again .Chris ,can you send me the tweaked figures for it please
All the settings in lee's previous files (pete's ?) were garbage, IMO. Look like they'd been plotted with an etchasketch.
Don't know what Lee had then. Mine (Pete's) basically went from 1100rpm below 30c, then sat at 850 above that. A couple of other GTA's are running this and idling fine.
Basically in the open loop Base idle value table, all 12's up to 30degs (or higher if you like) then ramping up to 17 for the rest of the table.
Overall control, min was 9, max was 100, 20 extra effort after cranking.
But even all this is academic because it still depends if your idle fuel map is actually sorted, and your ignition timing at around idle.
Lee's actual map is good, or was on the old engine, hopefully so on this one too
It's all good so far .Had been out testing the higher injector amp setting ,just blown the doors off some big fat Clio v6 and it stalls at the roundabout
Start stop start stop It didn't want to idle but ran fine ,no bogging down as previous .
Got home ,left it for a few mins then got a log of the stall .10 mins later it's fine .I've put an idle valve back on .Wiil see how it goes from cold in the morning .
One issue with the turbo though .It smokes from the intake side as far as I can tell through the mirror..Looks like it's burning oil on boost
at type of clio do you need a idle control valve for? ive got a fully working 172 one doing nowt here, any good to you?
Cheers Adey .I dunno though .It's a 3 wire Bosch job .Dave ??
What setting are you on, I was on 1.5a
Yes, Bosch is a 3 wire, I think the 172 unit isnt the same.
Upped to 1.9 .Chris thought it might help me to run more boost on the 214 cc .I was getting hesitation at about 10lbs ....It seems to have helped a bit ,12psi and no issues .
I need another 2 A610 jobs .804s ......
Put 3 different idle valves on and they all do nuffink
172 unit different, direct into air inlet ....
the V6 is the same as a 21,25,espace........
"try the one of dawny's 21".......touches nose,
Nope ,it's a stepper motor on that I think .I need to take that off as well as it's sticking and has an even madder idle than the GTA172 unit different, direct into air inlet ....
the V6 is the same as a 21,25,espace........
"try the one of dawny's 21".......touches nose,
shouldnt have......
PM the reg.....I am close to putting money on it being the same one....LOL..
then , dawny buys a new one, you fit to the GTA, she gets the best of the 3 knackered ones you have,,,
Looks nothing like the GTA one ......Perhaps it's SAS Performance Idle upgrade
K516 XBM
SAME ONE.......................
Av Itttttttttttttttttttttttttt
Looks nothing like the GTA one ......Perhaps it's SAS Performance Idle upgrade
K516 XBM
perhaps you aint looking under the manifold far enough.....LOL
Indeed one will not ' Av Itttttttttttttttttttttttt ! '
21 ....Renault
GTA ....Bosch
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