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    Re: Speed season 2016

    OK here it is

    19.9 psi
    216.9 Lb/ft
    231 BHP

    At that point Scoff reckons she was emptying the float chamber faster than it could fill and starting to lean out.

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    Re: Speed season 2016

    Nice, what is the actual spec of your set up Russell ?

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    Re: Speed season 2016

    Quote Originally Posted by RussellT View Post
    OK here it is

    19.9 psi
    216.9 Lb/ft
    231 BHP

    At that point Scoff reckons she was emptying the float chamber faster than it could fill and starting to lean out.

    That's F in good power for a carb! I guess more fuel pressure and maybe a bored out fuel bowl or dare I say it......maybe an injector could yield more bhp.

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    Re: Speed season 2016

    PowerRun.jpg

    Forged rods and pistons, lightened and balanced crank and flywheel, large turbo (sorry can't remember the code for it), Rejetted carb, Blitz boost controller, Unique hi flow intercooler, competition clutch. race head with big valves from Prima Racing. Adaptronic ECU wasted spark ignition,

    Cam from Engine Dynamics.

    Run on Shell V-Power Nitro pump fuel.

    Butch has more power and a lighter car (I still have all the carpets in Doris).
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    Re: Speed season 2016

    Nice Russell, is your cam anything like a Piper 270 or 285? I am not sure what Engine Dynamics offer in way of a cam.

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    Re: Speed season 2016

    Re cam sorry I have no idea what the technical details are.

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    Re: Speed season 2016

    Great power from 1.4 carb'd GTT That's usually about the ceiling (in terms of both power and psi), for reliable use.

    Looking at the power run, 3500 to 5000 must be a massive rush of blood!

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    Re: Speed season 2016

    Agreed, great result.

    Mine is getting mapped in a few weeks and was just interested in way of a comparison.

    I'd be happy with your numbers.

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    Re: Speed season 2016

    Superb result for 20psi, well done

    Whats the plan now then? Run "as is" or look into upgrading the fuel supply and try and squeeze out a bit more

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    Re: Speed season 2016

    I took the throttle body to show Scoff and he just felt we had to move the fuel rail to fit some bigger injectors and it should work. My pit crew have a inlet manifold to work with to help make up the required pipes to fit the TB. That's the easy part then there is the fuel circuit throttle cable, mounting the TBs, moving the coil pack and prob a load of other things I havent thought of. Should be fun! Ill keep you all posted.

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    Re: Speed season 2016

    Did your conrods hit the liners? I know mine did

    turbo code is gt2560 or 200sx s14a turbo

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    Re: Speed season 2016

    Doris is back in competition!
    At a very wet Aintree I gingerly increased tthe gain on the boost controller. Starting at 20% I went up in 10% stages through 2 practice and 2 timed runs. The last run at 50% gain produce 17.2 psi and despite Plowright through rivers and lakes of water Doris managed to post the fastest speed trap time in class at 112 and I ended up second to a lovely Schiroco 1.4 turbo and supercharged engine.
    Doris was awesome running like a bullet train, pulling all the way through the finish with a roaring sound track.

    I think I can consider her "run in" now.

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    Re: Speed season 2016



    Do you ever run at Donington Russell? I'd like to come and have a butchers if you race anywhere near me in the calendar (Derby/Burton).

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    Re: Speed season 2016

    Thanks Trevor sorry we don't go to Donnington it would be great if we did at what has to be one of the very best circuits in the world. Lotion Park in Shropshire is the furthest south I go. I would suggest for a great day out you need an event with Ian Butcher in his mega 5 as well as Doris on a sunny day. Harewood has great spectator viewing with plenty of split times and a commentator. A sunny day at Trac Mon on Anglesey has the most amazing scenery.
    The nearest venue to you is Curborough only 10 miles away. rather the opposite to Donnington I don't compete there but Ian does.
    Harewood is 90 minutes away from you, straight up the M1.
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    Re: Speed season 2016

    Some photos of Doris splashing around Aintree here

    http://www.whitedogphotography.co.uk...hp?gall_id=109

    and there are more on page 3

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    Re: Speed season 2016

    Thanks for the info Russell. Yeah, I've not seen any Donington reports from you so I doubted it was part of the calendar. Bum

    Ok, perhaps Harewood next season then if it turns out you are both going to be there

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    Re: Speed season 2016

    Aintree is only half an hour or so from my house, I really need to come and see you next time you're there Russ

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    Re: Speed season 2016

    Mock up of the proposed plenum chamber.
    Proposed plenum.jpg
    Plenum from back.jpg

    It works out at close to 1.4L just by chance
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    Re: Speed season 2016

    I can see some gaps. I don't think that's going to hold pressure when it's on the car

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    Re: Speed season 2016

    Work in progress
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    TB from top.jpg
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    Re: Speed season 2016

    Are housed building this yourself Russ? Love the idea of throttle bodies.

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    Re: Speed season 2016

    A guy called Andy Harrison at my local garage is fabricating it. I just bounce ideas off him. The latest is a link between the two sides to equalise the pressure and also allow us to fit the one way valves for the breather system and brake servo. It will also add stability.

    Pity Scoff at EFI he will have to try and make this monster work.
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    Re: Speed season 2016

    All in a days work for scoff!

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    Re: Speed season 2016

    Andy at work

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    Re: Speed season 2016

    I spent an amazing WE on Anglesey. Sat was a wash out. I ran Doris at 12 psi and was just 14 thats FOURTEEN!! seconds behind Keith Minshall in his 306 after 1st practice. I ended up no where but I caught the Clio ahead of me on my driest run. I was offered a rerun but there was no point as the rain had started again and the event was in real danger of hitting the curfew.

    The Sunday however was as good a day as sprinting gets. An amazing venue on a warm sunny day. I ran Doris at 17psi and she just flew. The combination of the new head and bigger turbo is nothing short of dramatic. The engine just revs for fun. I was hitting the rev limiter without realising I was at that level of revs. In the past I never got near it as the engine ran out of steam and you automatically went for the next gear. Now its still pulling strong as the limiter kicks in. In fact its sucking fuel so fast that I ran out of fuel with around 20L in the car.

    I had a few issues mainly being out of practice a long brake pedal that messed up my heel and toeing and tyres that improved as a layer of grime and old rubber was scrubbed off. In the end, as I got back into the hang of sliding the rear into the corners and despite a cough and a splutter after the long banked right handed hairpin I set a new PB of 106.92 sec for a 3rd place with Keith second to James Kerr who ran a stonking 103 seconds to take 3 seconds off the old record.

    If I had any doubts before I know now that this engine demands the throttle body conversion.
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    Re: Speed season 2016

    Sounds awesome Russell, we need more info and pictures on this throttle body conversion!

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    Re: Speed season 2016

    Rough finished inlet manifold.
    Still a lot to sort out. Ive bought some aluminium sheet to make a plenum chamber with some suitable pipe to make the inlet and exits.
    I hope Scoff can source some bigger injectors but I have concerns as the OEM ones have a very specific nozzle shape. Fingers crossed.


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    Re: Speed season 2016

    Coming along nicely.

    Have the class rule changes been put in place yet Russell, or is that next year? Will the new inlet alter your class designation? Would it have had the rules not changed??

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    Re: Speed season 2016

    A standard car class has been added stating that the car has to have been made in quantities over 5000 been made since 2000 and the forced induction multiplier is 1.7.

    For my class induction is free and the forced induction multiplier remains at 1.4 (at least for the time being). There was of course a Renault 5 with EFI and no one has been bothered by Ian Butchers 5 GT turbo competing with EFI.

    To be honest pots at the end of the year are nice but rather determined by the fortunes or misfortunes of others. Playing with the car, trying to go faster than you have gone before is more exciting.

    R

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