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    Non-member Adey aka Ewok's Avatar
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    gear box ratios

    has the 11 got shorter ratios than a 5? cruising in 5th on the mway seems to be quite high in the revs?

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    Re: gear box ratios

    Quote Originally Posted by Adey aka Ewok View Post
    has the 11 got shorter ratios than a 5? cruising in 5th on the mway seems to be quite high in the revs?
    yes, a shorter diff. 4.07 vs 3.73 so revs will be about 10% higher for the same speed.

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    Re: gear box ratios

    ahh rite ok, pain in the ass lol

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    Re: gear box ratios

    gave away a R5 box not long ago - could have had that sir

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    Re: gear box ratios

    no worries bud, im sure itll hoon me outa corners that little bit quicker on track

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    Re: gear box ratios

    doesn't the R11T have taller tyres than the GTT?

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    Re: gear box ratios

    Not sure on the tyre size but I know it runs 14s, would that be the reason for the gearing difference? From what I can find the 11 was only 50kgs heavier than the 5 so wouldn't of thought that would be the reason

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    Re: gear box ratios

    what size 14s?

    std GTT = 195/55/13?

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    Re: gear box ratios

    Ph2 11t tyres are possibly 185/60/14, been that long since i had mine cant remember 100%.

    Ph1 11t rims are 13"?

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    Re: gear box ratios

    yeah got recipts for 185/60/14

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    Re: gear box ratios

    Standard tyre size for the 11 turbo 175/65/14

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    Re: gear box ratios

    adey, i've got the same box, 5th/80mph is over 4000rpm! not ideal for motorway driving

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    Re: gear box ratios

    Quote Originally Posted by Brigsy View Post
    Ph1 11t rims are 13"?
    nope they're 14" mate.

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    Re: gear box ratios

    Quote Originally Posted by markey b View Post
    adey, i've got the same box, 5th/80mph is over 4000rpm! not ideal for motorway driving
    i know, im spending more time in the slow lane doing 60 now lol

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    Re: gear box ratios

    lol screw 60mph my phse 1 11 tub sound fikin ausume in the outside lane screamin along at just a smidge over 70 honestly officer

    it loved the european roads to the ring LOL

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    Re: gear box ratios

    all good on short jaunts but it racks up fuel when im doing long distances

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    Re: gear box ratios

    Quote Originally Posted by Adey aka Ewok View Post
    all good on short jaunts but it racks up fuel when im doing long distances
    with the right tyres it's only slightly shorter geared than the GTT, 2%, are you on 50 series?

    R11T is 9.1% shorter geared than the GTT

    195/55/13 = 21.44" tall - std GTT
    175/65/14 = 22.96" tall - std R11T, +7.1% compared to std GTT
    195/45/15 = 21.91" tall + 2% compared to std GTT
    195/50/15 = 22.68" tall +5.8% compared to std GTT
    205/50/15 = 23.07" tall +7.6% compared to std GTT

    all those are theoretical, so will differ to reality.

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    Re: gear box ratios

    not sure about the ratios but my r9 gtx box nicely does
    70mph at 3k rpm in 5th


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    Re: gear box ratios

    Would it be possible to do a similar thing as the VW guys do, they can swap 5th gear in situ and replace it with a taller gear......

    http://www.myturbodiesel.com/1000q_h..._gear_swap.htm

    If we can swap them in situ, what 5th gear option are available to us?

    Standard gtt is .76

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    Re: gear box ratios

    I'm on 195/45/15s and 3k is about 58mph on the gps?

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    Re: gear box ratios



    so do i get on the hunt for a derv 5th gear?

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    Re: gear box ratios

    Quote Originally Posted by Adey aka Ewok View Post

    so do i get on the hunt for a derv 5th gear?
    I wouldn't bother, you have a 0.76, and the longest 5th is a 0.74.

    It's either fit a GTT box, or fit some tyres of the right diameter.

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    Re: gear box ratios

    3K should be more like 63mph, even with your tiny tyres.

    http://www.kabamus.com/garage/gears.html

    are you sure that your clocks are right, and that you have an R11T box fitted?

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    Re: gear box ratios

    funny you should say that, our next potential job on the 11T

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    Re: gear box ratios

    Yo, Adrian.

    I've got a 5 box, with a busted 2nd gear you can have for nothing if you fancy some gear swapping.

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    Re: gear box ratios

    Quote Originally Posted by Adam L View Post
    Yo, Adrian.

    I've got a 5 box, with a busted 2nd gear you can have for nothing if you fancy some gear swapping.
    same, got one sat round the side of the house...with a rear beam, alloys...

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    Re: gear box ratios

    Quote Originally Posted by Adey aka Ewok View Post


    so do i get on the hunt for a derv 5th gear?

    from driving my car yesterday on the old motorway yesterday for a long while i do remember my speed at 70mph read at about 3,500k.boost was reading at just the 4th mark.all as std as well.and you know when your clutch is on the way outjust had mine done though

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    Re: gear box ratios

    Defo not clutch slip, I'll get the ID off the box tomorow, can anyone confirm the box number?

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    Re: gear box ratios

    Is the speedo/rev counter accurate though? might be worth trying another set of clocks to compare. Every set ive used have read differently!

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    Re: gear box ratios

    Chuck a tw*t-nav in your car & compare speedo vs. gps speeds. 4k @ 70 is crazy!

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    Re: gear box ratios

    Will use the sat nav tomorow then, I used the one on the iPhone last time so that was probably outa wack too

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    Re: gear box ratios

    Quote Originally Posted by Adey aka Ewok View Post
    Defo not clutch slip, I'll get the ID off the box tomorow, can anyone confirm the box number?
    there are a couple of possibles, I have it written down at home, so no problem.

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    Re: gear box ratios

    from what i can make out it says jc511 with a 68 underneath the 11, that sound right or am i looking at the wrong thing? is on a tag thats bolted to the box

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    Re: gear box ratios

    Quote Originally Posted by Adey aka Ewok View Post
    from what i can make out it says jc511 with a 68 underneath the 11, that sound right or am i looking at the wrong thing? is on a tag thats bolted to the box
    I'd need to look, but JC5 isn't right, you should have a JB3. There should be another digit, JC5nnn. You almost certainly have a spurious box fitted.

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    Re: gear box ratios

    I'll try and take it off tonight and get a proper look

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    Re: gear box ratios

    IIRC some JC5 boxes are fitted to the Williams Clio , Clio 172, Megane Coupe 2l 16V as a start list

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    Re: gear box ratios

    Quote Originally Posted by Ricardo View Post
    IIRC some JC5 boxes are fitted to the Williams Clio , Clio 172, Megane Coupe 2l 16V as a start list
    yep, and loads of diesels etc. I'm guessing it has a 4.21 final drive, or something horrible.

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    Re: gear box ratios

    Quote Originally Posted by Schakal View Post
    not sure about the ratios but my r9 gtx box nicely does
    70mph at 3k rpm in 5th

    so does any one know what the final drive is in the r9 gtx box?

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    Re: gear box ratios

    my bad, its jb3 011 so whats that off? also on the tag is C013468?

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    Re: gear box ratios

    ok have you got a list of car serial numbers so i can see what it comes from lol

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    Re: gear box ratios

    Quote Originally Posted by Adey aka Ewok View Post
    my bad, its jb3 011 so whats that off? also on the tag is C013468?
    R11T

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    Re: gear box ratios

    ok so thats right, my speedo seems right but yet to check properly with the **** nav, does that mean my rev counter is off? how fast should i be traveling at 4k on 195/45/15s then?

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    Re: gear box ratios

    Adey, if you decide to out/sell that 'box, give me first dibs please mate.

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    Re: gear box ratios

    Quote Originally Posted by Adey aka Ewok View Post
    ok so thats right, my speedo seems right but yet to check properly with the **** nav, does that mean my rev counter is off? how fast should i be traveling at 4k on 195/45/15s then?
    ~84.3mph
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    Re: gear box ratios

    if i do ull be my first port of call

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    Re: gear box ratios

    Quote Originally Posted by Andrew Cooke View Post
    ~84.3mph
    cheers buddy, cheers for all the help peeps

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    Re: gear box ratios

    if he changes his mind, ill have it, sharky northern geezas

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    Adey, I'll have it, so don't get pulling any under-hand Swindon stunts, Spooks!


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