View Full Version : Welcome To The New Site
hi all and welcome, this is the new site im still working on many features but its good to use now:agree::agree:
remember to like this post as ive put many months into this ill come back in abit to let you know new features
Slammed 66
30-03-2016, 17:47
Whoop whoop.
Well done mick :agree:
This is will take some getting used to :laugh:
Ross
Slammed 66
30-03-2016, 17:48
How do I like it? :ashamed:
thanks like and dislike functions at bottom:agree:
save this link rtoc.org/boards/forum.php
How do I like it? :ashamed:
haha see under the post
but u cant like ya own post, you can also blog a thread on left ill put a image up in mo:agree:
ill add fb link after its finished the search update
Oooooooh it's all new and modern, how will I cope?!
I think it's fair to say we all owe a huge thank you to Mick and the rest of the team who have worked tirelessly on this over the past 12 months or so - well done! I've only just logged on so have yet to explore the site but it's looking good so far and theres more to come :agree:
Slammed 66
30-03-2016, 18:02
Still can't see a like button and I'm struggling to post up an image. This is most likely due to me being thick though :laugh:
Check your whatsap mick :agree:
Still can't see a like button and I'm struggling to post up an image. This is most likely due to me being thick though :laugh:
Check your whatsap mick :agree:
theres a green thumb thats the like, red is dislike, smile face is thanks
Oooooooh it's all new and modern, how will I cope?!
I think it's fair to say we all owe a huge thank you to Mick and the rest of the team who have worked tirelessly on this over the past 12 months or so - well done! I've only just logged on so have yet to explore the site but it's looking good so far and theres more to come :agree:
loads more to come gallery, shoutbox, ebay classifieds:agree::agree:
use chrome as minor prob with icons
30166
the smile is thanks, the red thumb is dislike, green thumb is like
far left is a add blog
i still need to do loads of permissions on stuff but it should be mainly working for you all
shop working too but need to add mod still:laugh:
ok it displays totally different on the iphone etc with loads of the full site missing
ive spoken to coder waiting a reply
Well done to all concerned, you've done a nice job on the revamp :agree:
B18ftMOJO5
30-03-2016, 19:04
Well done looks great mick. All modern will take some getting used to but defo looks much fresher than the old site now. :agree:
Awesome Mick. Loads to discover. Keep at it with the other features. As long as the forums work then folk can communicate and respond with any problems they're experiencing :agree:
The site seems to work well on my Android phone. Anyone with an iphone deserves whatever they get :wasntme:
Slammed 66
30-03-2016, 19:36
Anyone with an iphone deserves whatever they get :wasntme:
:cooter:
Matt Cole
30-03-2016, 19:44
Very well done Michael! ;) It's certainly striking on first look, very clear and easy to use.
Now how do you upload pics?:laugh:
Matt Cole
30-03-2016, 19:45
Works ok on android. :agree:
:cooter:
If only I could dislike this post :cry:
all problems are on iphone if there no solution ts back to 3.7 and all posts will be lost from now:cry:
Looks good, well done 👍 Good to see more members online as well.
Matt Cole
30-03-2016, 21:35
all problems are on iphone if there no solution ts back to 3.7 and all posts will be lost from now:cry:
Mick, surely if the site works on everything else there will be a work around for iPhone?
Matt Cole
30-03-2016, 21:38
On iPad now and it's spot on.:agree:
Mick, surely if the site works on everything else there will be a work around for iPhone?
I hope so. We can't go back now :( This version must work (with the right settings), if the old one did. :agree:
Try moving the mouse pointer over the avatars. They zoom bigger. No higher in pixels per inch, but this is the best would could go to within the limits of vB 4, for now anyway.
And there is something nice going on with photos in posts. Click on one and it opens in the page, not new tab, then click on the right or left half and it show the next or previous picture. To exit the slide show, click outside it on the post behind it.
In case anyone has not noticed, there is a style chooser at bottom left that allows to chose a mobile template.
Matt Cole
30-03-2016, 21:50
Try moving the mouse pointer over the avatars. They zoom bigger. No higher in pixels per inch, but this is the best would could go to within the limits of vB 4, for now anyway.
And there should be something nice going on with photos in posts. Click on one and it opens in the page, not new tab, then click on the right or left half and it show the next or previous picture. To exit the slide show, click outside it on the post behind it.
In case anyone has not noticed, there is a style chooser at bottom left that allows to chose a mobile template.
The mobile style is limited in content though Ian, good for speed on keeping up with posts etc.
:agree:
Matt Cole
30-03-2016, 21:53
I'm logged in on an I phone 5s and can see the like button etc.
Yeah, it's slimmed down both for less data sent and so it's easy to see and use where a desktop template maybe too crowded.
And which browser? Mobile or desktop template?
Matt Cole
30-03-2016, 21:59
Now on mobile version on I phone. All spot on although there are no like/dislike functions. Maybe thats normal?
None on this Android in mobile but yes in desktop template.
well done guys. just having a look around. very strange, in a good way:agree:
As said the club really appreciate the effort you have put into this site. No real issue with like/dislike if not available through iPhone but do have an issue with menu up at top where new posts and private messages are covering up shop and tech apps buttons
Is dialogys working for everyone else? Doesn't seem to be possible to do searches.
Red October
31-03-2016, 03:09
Great work Mick and the rest of the team, RTOC is moving forward at 2 bar of boost again! Site works fine on Android and desktop yet I haven't had a full mooch around.
Matt Cole
31-03-2016, 07:44
Is dialogys working for everyone else? Doesn't seem to be possible to do searches.
I guess there maybe a few little bugs. When mick gets his breath I'm sure all will be fixed. :agree:
no sure if all the problems can be fixed, ive now got no time at all, this took 10 hours solid yesterday to do and obviously everyone knows the amount of time before ive done
im also away 11/25 april, sofas from dfs coming today, mikes car to do before i go and endless other things
my things ive noticed, not compatible on full view with iphone, ie incompatible in places and other minor stuff
personally id change back now and loose the has 10 hours of posts i could do this in 3 hours today and then go back to testing in may when i get home, otherwise your stuck with what you got till i can get the coder to try and fix which he may not be able to,
i need a answer quick as once theres to many posts the more will be lost as they cant be moved back to 3.7
mick:cry::cry:
Matt Cole
31-03-2016, 09:41
Mic I tested on an iPhone 5s last night using safari and it was spot on. Not sure what the issue is. Yes there are some issues with text spacings in general which I'm sure can be worked through over the next few weeks.:agree:
Mic I tested on an iPhone 5s last night using safari and it was spot on. Not sure what the issue is. Yes there are some issues with text spacings in general which I'm sure can be worked through over the next few weeks.:agree:
lots of the external pages scoff created (links)now don't work as there written in a different php
this can be fixed but not sure on other stuff
even the links on external pages don't work which means people cant register atm I could setup something on the home page hopefully for now but its up to people what to do but I need to know asap if we are swapping back to old vb
Registering is the only biggie I can see so far. If this can be fixed within a week then don't roll-back to 3.7.
Mick, create a central bug list at your end and prioritise it in terms of importance so it's not swimming around in your mind :agree: This upgrade was always going to be buggy and will probably take a couple of months to resolve and settle so don't let that bother you or stop you doing the non-RTOC things you need to do in the meantime.
Edit: there's no tab for articles in the top menu like there used to be. Is that intentional? one for the list?
Registering is the only biggie I can see so far. If this can be fixed within a week then don't roll-back to 3.7.Using desktop PC and Chrome I just clicked on homepage Join and it did go to the registration page. One spammer has registered successfully maybe 10 times since last evening.
Edit: there's no tab for articles in the top menu like there used to be. Is that intentional? one for the list?Yes, Mick was trying to shorten the populated area of the bar a bit so it doesn't have the problem Dale pointed to with it overlapping. As it's doing that anyway I could turn them on and some can see if it gets worse? On Android it doesn't shorten and overlap.
The Live window is a pop-up in Chrome, but a new tab in Firefox. Used to be a pop-up in Firefox.
Top menu: Ok cool. If you add back in, 'files' could also go back on. If you keep these things out - no probs.
New bug: I can't add files to the site. The upload images button takes you to this page: http://www.rtoc.org/boards/activity.php
Top menu: Ok cool. If you add back in, 'files' could also go back on. If you keep these things out - no probs.
New bug: I can't add files to the site. The upload images button takes you to this page: http://www.rtoc.org/boards/activity.php
my net keeps going off this but is because of code differences in php trev nothing else all scoffs external pages need modding again
files should be switched off now for the moment
ive had a email from coder hes busy busy but can start tom, this will be done on dev3 my test site and then moved to here once tested,
bear in mind im away for 2 weeks soon but ill try and get extermal stuff done before not sure on rest
as I say if you want to switch back to 3.7 I can do later today when I get time
Here's another one.
The live page doesn't show the quoted box.
And this time in Chrome, it opened in a new tab instead of a pop-up.
Lowiepete
31-03-2016, 15:53
Mick,
Stop all thoughts of going backward! If there are problems to resolve, then I'm
pretty sure most can be fixed. The new site looks and functions well, so no more
talk of regression.
If there are some PHP issues, I _may_ be able to help. I run a big web site in it
and also run a phpBB Forum on it - only a tiny one by comparison, but it's still
the same language.
The text-spacing issues can/should be fixed by one command in the body tag
of the main CSS file, rather than trying to fix a myriad other tags in several
specialised CSS files. I use this...
body { background: #BCF2C9 url(../image/hband7.jpg) fixed; color: #007; font: 100%/1.25 Verdana,Arial,Helvetica, etc...
The operative bit is 100%/1.25 - that sets a ratio that any browser can work with.
Two suggestions for your future list:
The dimensions of our avatars needs to be amended upward from
the present 80 x 80 pixels - that way, when they get enlarged they don't go blurry.
I'd suggest that we go to a 6 by 4 ratio, so 120px by 80px or 150px by 100px.
This makes creating avatars from bigger pictures much easier for peeps to do.
Is there a difficulty with increasing the number of {video] tags we can have
in one post? Currently, the limit is 1, but I have a series of them (7 out of 9) outlining
my entire rebuild experience which I'd like to place into post 1 of my thread.
Currently, I have two articles waiting to go into the Detailing Reference section.
I'll not upload them until my permissions are sorted. You probably have more
than enough on your plate.
If there's any way I can help...
Regards,
Steve
Mick,
Stop all thoughts of going backward! If there are problems to resolve, then I'm
pretty sure most can be fixed. The new site looks and functions well, so no more
talk of regression.
If there are some PHP issues, I _may_ be able to help. I run a big web site in it
and also run a phpBB Forum on it - only a tiny one by comparison, but it's still
the same language.
The text-spacing issues can/should be fixed by one command in the body tag
of the main CSS file, rather than trying to fix a myriad other tags in several
specialised CSS files. I use this...
body { background: #BCF2C9 url(../image/hband7.jpg) fixed; color: #007; font: 100%/1.25 Verdana,Arial,Helvetica, etc...
The operative bit is 100%/1.25 - that sets a ratio that any browser can work with.
Two suggestions for your future list:
The dimensions of our avatars needs to be amended upward from
the present 80 x 80 pixels - that way, when they get enlarged they don't go blurry.
I'd suggest that we go to a 6 by 4 ratio, so 120px by 80px or 150px by 100px.
This makes creating avatars from bigger pictures much easier for peeps to do.
Is there a difficulty with increasing the number of {video] tags we can have
in one post? Currently, the limit is 1, but I have a series of them (7 out of 9) outlining
my entire rebuild experience which I'd like to place into post 1 of my thread.
Currently, I have two articles waiting to go into the Detailing Reference section.
I'll not upload them until my permissions are sorted. You probably have more
than enough on your plate.
If there's any way I can help...
Regards,
Steve
having lots of problems with my vermin internet atm so cant get on but I had this problem yesterday, bth steve, because we had to upgrade to php 5.4 to get vb423 to work this has caused all the problems, I was simply offering everyone a get out back to 3.7 as theres so many problems here, bth the main boards all work as they should its all the custom php that scoff originally created that's the problem, as you know vb is only the forum part all the live page and other parts external php are custom, created in 5.2.17 php, could you pm me your email so I can send you the additional css script? not sure your line will work but maybe worth a try? im going to get coder to re do custom php then the site will function 100% apart from the iphone I believe on full style, regarding the avatars that will not work what you said ive already tried it lol
but there another addon that Ill probably use instead as it much clearer
I did this because I didn't want to let them down as I promised march, maybe not such a good idea eh??
Ill try and sort your permissions in a while but tbh im drained atm but ill sort it out for you for sure
regards mick
Lowiepete
31-03-2016, 16:57
Mick,
It's natural that you're feeling drained. All good things come to those who wait.
You have put a whole load of very tech work into this, so no-one should be under
any illusion that this was easy!
The basic site works, with (very!) minor irritations than can be sorted. So, take a
breath - enjoy some sunshine for a while - and let your brain repair from all that
blur of code. This is probably the worst time to try to titivate - yeah, we've waited
a while but it can only get better from here.
It's time to relax for a while, there's no panic.
I'll PM you. If it helps, I run easyPHP on my machine. I wanna hear that you went and
walked the dog or some-such first...
Regards,
Steve
god the live on mobile skin woks on my 5 steve do you know php?
if you want i can give you temp access to my dev3 test site in the admin panel then you can look at the templates yourself but if your only compitent enough boss and thx what you said means alot it took 4 months solid of sorting stuff to get to here. not the coding side but other stuff
mick
Lowiepete
31-03-2016, 17:33
...but if your only compitent enough
Well, I have a reasonable grip - it'll take me a while to get my head around the
"assembly" bits, where all sorts of weird and wonderful things can catch you.
These "Scoff" files, are they based on an ancient database?
I took a quick look at the source code on a random page and there's .css files
all over the shop. I understand the desire to only load relevant CSS, but do any
of the later loadings countermand existing instructions? That's gonna take a
while for someone new to figure out, but I'm happy to have a no-changes
scout on what I maybe could do.
If it's within reason, it would be good to have some skins that reflect the R5
colour choices back in the day - so, tungy grey or electric blue anyone? :)
But that's for the future...
Regards,
Steve
scoffs files dont use the database except the live page, all the custom pages are older php thats why they don't work correctly i sorted them to visual look working by adding php to every <? as the pages were not displaying at all, scoff was very clever and uses a custom header that routes through vb
beleive me its a maze of code, as i said vb is only really the forum tab all others are custom except shop which is totally seperate
you could take a look at the templates but they are a mind field too
Lowiepete
31-03-2016, 19:13
beleive me its a maze of code
Just one look at how the eventual HTML comes together told me that
so, I'm under no illusions.
Where I'm at, at present, is the transfer of all on my desktop in Win 7 over to
Win10 on a new laptop. That'll take me a day or three.
Once done, what I'd like to do is an FTP download to my machine where I can play
at will, before making _any_ changes or do any damage!
I have one further question...
Are there any history notes within the modified files. I need to warn you that
I come from an "old-school" of programmers who likes things tidy. I'm not that
bothered about speeeling or grammmmer, but good structure in the outcome is not
negotiable.
What I often see is what I call "lazy programming" and I can get quite angry.
The maxim that tidy work produces tidy results still holds true, at least for
this old-timer :)
What I see from modern stuff is too much reliance on 3rd party test routines.
So, for a future proofing exercise, it might be a good idea to have a changes
file and an annotation system where, for example, if a routine is intended as
just a "temp workaround" or more accurately, a fudge, then it's recorded for
others to take a look at and improve, if possible.
I understood that VB is a paid-for service, rather than the phpBB system that's
free. So, I'm a bit taken aback at how untidy the eventual HTML comes out.
I'm absolutely no expert on this, but it looks like some basics, as I've always
understood them, have been abandoned. Perhaps that marks me out as being
just too old-fashioned.
Look at it in terms of a wiring-loom, sometimes it's better to follow the diagram
that's been tested to destruction by experts.
I'm quite happy to look at this, and if time allows have a bit of a tidy-up.
What I don't want to do, and I must emphasise this, is take over. I'm no longer
a youngster with a bright future ahead of me, but if a good tidying will help
a future process of "succession planning", then I'm happy to try and help, if
I can.
Regards,
Steve
easier if I duplicate it tom somewhere on server that way it dont matter if ya feck it ill pm ya tom sometime
got coder looking tom so the external mods maybe done but ya welcome to look at rest ill partial admin ya so you can look at the internal stuff
mick
just adding fb link it will be next to user name in top right corner
also found some holes in the blog system but ive plugged then pmsl:D
Matt Cole
31-03-2016, 21:15
Steve,
If you can at least help with 1 item of the website, mick might start detailing his car!:laugh:
Steve,
If you can at least help with 1 item of the website, mick might start detailing his car!:laugh:
no chance:agree:
Lowiepete
31-03-2016, 22:30
If you can at least help with 1 item of the website, mick might start detailing his car!:laugh:
Matt, that "I dislike this post" button is so very tempting for misuse - :smokin:
no chance:agree:
Damn Mick, you know to break an old man's heart...
...there's me, trying to make it look all so easy too :dearme:
Regards,
Steve
Like this,good work !!
:agree::cool:
ok guys very strange my iphone 5 is now working the full style correctly as it does on my computer and looks the nutz, this worked for me
1 on mobile select mobile style
2 click into any post to read
3 change to full style
Matt Cole
03-04-2016, 08:35
Mick as stated a few posts back, I tested on android, I phone and I pad. All worked ok in both skin styles.
I guess it's just tweaking and tidying now to get various bits fixed or upgraded as we go.:agree:
it's working fully matt now and tbh i do remember testing it and all was fine, I think when I accidentally fecked the server this caused the problem amd now they fixed it, it's working 100% correct on my iPhone except the known external links on external pages well thats 95% working now so i did a grand job in my eyes
Mick quick one, not sure if its me or the drugs I am on but has the file section vanished?
currently its off i could put back on for downloading but as you know you cant upload?
Matt Cole
03-04-2016, 13:25
Put it back on mick. We need to test.:)
james has tested it wont upload but ill put back on
Mick. Is there a 'posts in the last 24hrs' and 'posts in the last week' buttons? They were my bread and butter on the old site.
Edit: I realise there is the "new posts" and "today's posts'' buttons but neither quite do the same as last 24hrs. And there are no buttons to cover the weekly option. :agree:
Matt Cole
05-04-2016, 19:34
Mick. Is there a 'posts in the last 24hrs' and 'posts in the last week' buttons? They were my bread and butter on the old site.
Edit: I realise there is the "new posts" and "today's posts'' buttons but neither quite do the same as last 24hrs. And there are no buttons to cover the weekly option. :agree:
Just found the today's posts button!
ok coders done work so i just need to test it now then move it across to here that should then be everything working ill add more new features once back from hols:cooter:
Lowiepete
07-04-2016, 18:08
... once back from hols:cooter:
Have a good'un Mick, you've earned it :niceone:
Regards,
Steve
thanx stevie only dorset n devon as other half had stroke and she cant fly atm
might take lappy with me lol
ok files working now and all links on the site ease where, proper quote box on live page to now, so thats nearly it
ill add some other bits later
also soon you will be able to login with your email address if you prefer:agree:
ok all done thanx dave your a gent:agree::agree:
new whats new tab next to home which show recent activity
:cooter::cooter::cooter::cooter:
Cool.
The activity page shows you when people add files to their albums :)
files works now trev and everything else too, its shows everything trev
last fix was to get avatars to appear in profile and activity page
lucky i knows a great coder:laugh::laugh::laugh:
still loads of stuff to add when im on hols
Can we please have a tab for the 'Articles' in the top menu alongside the forum tab? The only way I can see to get to articles atm is via the homepage or navigating to it from the forum homepage (where it's quite far down the list of sections). :agree:
Would it be good to have a direct link to the 'Dialogys' section in the top menu too? I think this is a brilliant area of the site which is currently tucked away as a sub-section of the 5 GT Turbo forum. :agree:
Mick, any chance of the above two things? They should be simple tweaks. The only reasons I can think of not to do this are:
- will adding another two tabs to the top menu cause problems for mobile users?? There seems to be plenty of room on my phone.
- Dialogys is for the GTT and RTOC is supposed to be for all Turbo Renaults, so should IT be tucked away in the 5 GT Turbo forum. I don't think this is a big deal. Everybody knows this club is GTT focused and I can't see anyone complaining.
Mick, any chance of the above two things? They should be simple tweaks. The only reasons I can think of not to do this are:
- will adding another two tabs to the top menu cause problems for mobile users?? There seems to be plenty of room on my phone.
- Dialogys is for the GTT and RTOC is supposed to be for all Turbo Renaults, so should IT be tucked away in the 5 GT Turbo forum. I don't think this is a big deal. Everybody knows this club is GTT focused and I can't see anyone complaining.
sorry been away so didn't see your request it will be possible but I may need to remove 1 at some point as I still need to install some addons when I get time and they need tabs
vb4 tab bar is not collapsible so makes a real mess if theres to many
also while im here anyone that doesn't see the correct view on a iphone needs to select the vb4 default skin in the style selection on the bottom left to see the correct skin
so do you want me to add these tabs?
All good mate.
Yeah, I would, that would be great. If you have to remove one in the future perhaps Blogs could go, there's nothing in there.
Lowiepete
29-04-2016, 17:47
The addition of Blogs to the site means that people can log details of their P+J
and share their experiences without the thread getting lost in the morass.
The reason that there are none presently is that probably not a lot of people
know how or why to use them, though for me the 10 pics per post limit keeps
getting in the way.
I've started a blog (http://www.rtoc.org/boards/entry.php?4-Renault-Laguna-Coup%E9-A-Maintenance-History-2009-to-date) to show what can be done, though I'm hoping that the
10 pics limit can be upped to 20. The main benefit with blogs is that the images
come up at full size straight away.
I'll be adding more posts later...
Regards,
Steve
Fair enough, let's see if it begins to be utilised. Hopefully removing tabs won't be required.
tabs done for the moment guys
Matt Cole
03-05-2016, 12:41
much better!:agree:
Boom :) Thanks, looks spot on :agree:
Lowiepete
04-05-2016, 04:54
Hi Mick,
Can the limit of 10 pictures (which includes smilies :confused:) in the blogs be
extended to 20? Pictures called with the [img] tag are on a remote server,
so don't impact the local server. So why it's so restrictive is curious...
The blog post character limit is just 10k, again, can this be doubled-up to 20k?
The problem with the character count is that it includes all URLs which for some
reason are almost twice as long as hitherto. Trying to cut back posts to meet the
limit does make trying to keep the context quite difficult.
Cheers if you can help :niceone:
Once I've broken the back of my transfer, I'll write a guide on what the blogs
are intended for and how to use them here. It's not all that intuitive, but that's
VB for you :)
Regards,
Steve
Hi Mick,
Can the limit of 10 pictures (which includes smilies :confused:) in the blogs be
extended to 20? Pictures called with the [img] tag are on a remote server,
so don't impact the local server. So why it's so restrictive is curious...
The blog post character limit is just 10k, again, can this be doubled-up to 20k?
The problem with the character count is that it includes all URLs which for some
reason are almost twice as long as hitherto. Trying to cut back posts to meet the
limit does make trying to keep the context quite difficult.
Cheers if you can help :niceone:
Once I've broken the back of my transfer, I'll write a guide on what the blogs
are intended for and how to use them here. It's not all that intuitive, but that's
VB for you :)
Regards,
Steve
smilies may be a problem they don't appear in a lot of places the coder had to make a plugin for the latest posts in forum view as it wouldn't work there either ill look into other stuff its possible just need to fine the settings as there in different places, ill report back:agree:
what categories do we need in blogs ill set it up??
EDIT try the images now 20 and content is 20k:coffee:
Lowiepete
04-05-2016, 14:59
what categories do we need in blogs ill set it up??
Categories can be set by users, though it may need explaining.
The same with tags content, though you need care before posting as
it doesn't look like you can either choose them, or change them after
the post has been confirmed...
Regards,
Steve
im just rebuilding the search index so it works correctly
this takes hours so it wont work for a while
search feature now fully functional took 4 hrs to run lol:laugh:
Nice one Mick.
Tbh this migration has been a lot smoother than I thought it would be. All the effort upfront really paid off :agree:
JOSHIEEBOII94
23-05-2016, 22:11
Loving the new site 😃. Great work 👏
more stuff done
people can now directly register from rtoc.org a problem brought to my attention by ian and matt
31241
also fixed the forgot password that didnt work on there:cooter:
Matt Cole
21-07-2017, 13:10
Mick, that button stands out like a boil on the nose!:D:agree:
Mick, that button stands out like a boil on the nose!:D:agree:
thanx matt least ya like it:laugh:
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