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markey b
05-11-2012, 10:04
thanks for the great comments guys, still got lots to do, will get more piccys up over the next week or so, thinking of carbon wraping the 16v bonnet or maybe painting it blue, thoughts on that anybody:scratch:
carbon bonnet will be coming of in the next three weeks
cough cough mr B;)
let me know your awesome mates rates price (and discount for it fitting crap) and let me know ;)
i'm sure it will be cheaper than my bodyshop bill for having checkers painted on the corner! haha
thanks for the great comments guys, still got lots to do, will get more piccys up over the next week or so, thinking of carbon wraping the 16v bonnet or maybe painting it blue, thoughts on that
Personally I'd paint it, think it'll look nice with the phase 1 grill back on.
few more piccys of bits ive so far made this week:D
these are the stainless steel rose jointed tie rods to support the exhaust manifold, the bracket bolts to the back of the block,.http://i992.photobucket.com/albums/af41/turbochappers/Photobucket%20Desktop%20-%20MYCOMPUTER-PC/P1020192.jpg
http://i992.photobucket.com/albums/af41/turbochappers/Photobucket%20Desktop%20-%20MYCOMPUTER-PC/P1020191.jpg
heres a few of the new fuel line set up complete with inline filter
http://i992.photobucket.com/albums/af41/turbochappers/Photobucket%20Desktop%20-%20MYCOMPUTER-PC/P1020190.jpg
http://i992.photobucket.com/albums/af41/turbochappers/Photobucket%20Desktop%20-%20MYCOMPUTER-PC/P1020189.jpg
http://i992.photobucket.com/albums/af41/turbochappers/Photobucket%20Desktop%20-%20MYCOMPUTER-PC/P1020188.jpg
stainless bracket and clip to hold oil filter
http://i992.photobucket.com/albums/af41/turbochappers/Photobucket%20Desktop%20-%20MYCOMPUTER-PC/P1020187.jpg
heat shield to protect drive shaft rubber boot from exhaust manifold runners, dont want them getting hot a splitting sending grease all over the runners:ashamed: = instant fire:scared:
http://i992.photobucket.com/albums/af41/turbochappers/Photobucket%20Desktop%20-%20MYCOMPUTER-PC/P1020186.jpg
air filter bracket for holding the neck in position on the roll cage leg.
http://i992.photobucket.com/albums/af41/turbochappers/Photobucket%20Desktop%20-%20MYCOMPUTER-PC/P1020193.jpg
modified heat sheild to bolt on behind the flange plate of the exhaust manifold.
http://i992.photobucket.com/albums/af41/turbochappers/Photobucket%20Desktop%20-%20MYCOMPUTER-PC/P1020194.jpg
pick up moulds for wide arch kit this friday, will start making a new wider set of rear and front arches sometime next year, and develop a new front bumper and rear bumper ;)
also ordered a wider set of rear tyres 245/40/15's and a set of new inner rim sections for the split rims, will be 10" wide. running 2 1/2 degrees camber on the back:cooter: more updates next week;)
TNT ANDY
15-11-2012, 06:30
FFS Andy - Reading this is like listening to BBC radio 1.
Looks great, you keep dangling the carrot with shiney new this and mahoosive that, please get it on the road soon and let's see what this 'blue coffin of death' can do.
Looking awesome as usual.
BTW, when your all finished nancing around, there's a couple of spritely C1Js wanting to meet you on the twisties:devil:
TNT ANDY
15-11-2012, 06:33
thanks for the great comments guys, still got lots to do, will get more piccys up over the next week or so, thinking of carbon wraping the 16v bonnet or maybe painting it blue, thoughts on that anybody:scratch:
carbon bonnet will be coming of in the next three weeks
cough cough mr B;)
Get Ross to wrap it for you fella - he's got some pretty awesome carbon wrap. Give us a shout and I'll see if he's about on Friday for a short while.
I tried ringing you last night - give us a shout
Such a wicked project this :)
When it's finished mechanically, I'd remove the rear spoiler, replace the wing mirrors with OE, paint the car a glossy black (including the bonnet), and the wheels silver.
Making it something like a next generation of this:
http://www.influx.co.uk/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/renault-5-turbo-2-06.jpeg
Sounds great Andy with going wider on the arches, can I ask where your getting the moulds from?
Good going mate! Keep em coming :D
Sounds great Andy with going wider on the arches, can I ask where your getting the moulds from?
pick them up tonight from a bloke in gt yarmouth, along with some grill and bumper moulds of various styles:D
the idea being to produce the arches from the plug, build out/re shape the profile, and use these as a new plug, will be looking into doors bonnets /boots and grills also in the next year or so;)
pick them up tonight from a bloke in gt yarmouth, along with some grill and bumper moulds of various styles:D
the idea being to produce the arches from the plug, build out/re shape the profile, and use these as a new plug, will be looking into doors bonnets /boots and grills also in the next year or so;)
I like that approach mate, I think the idea I'm gonna go with is to flare the original arch on the car with fabrication work. I've seen it done before on a Citroen ax, that's runnings cossie 2wd running gear.
Personally I'm not gonna do it, a good friend of mine is a fabricator, my welding looks like random bird droppings :ashamed:
great Car :eek:, you ( or better your car ) have now a Fan in Germany :agree::agree::D
great Car :eek:, you ( or better your car ) have now a Fan in Germany :agree::agree::D
this is what i want to aspire too, just need to rework the arches a little on the rear, and change rear and front bumpers:cooter::cooter:
http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a71/mrb_gtt/Thruxton%202004/DSC01112.jpg
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-RPhGdRyfEDQ/TtzXj32rJ-I/AAAAAAAAGGg/GyTC_dG8j8U/s1600/Ot+R5+c.jpg
http://www.planete-gt.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/11/renault-5-turbo-2-production-1.jpg
although the side skirts are a bit to extreme, it could be fairly close :)
SCHWARTZ
24-11-2012, 19:43
Wow I need this in my life:eek:
Oohhh super production very nice ;)
Take a look at this one:
http://www.motorsportmarkt.de/bilder/rennfahrzeuge/tourenwagen/renault-5gt-mid-engined-full-specs.html
:cool: loving the uber cool white finish ,screams prototype:cooter:
funny enough i picked up a set of moulds for that rear spoiler also this weekend just gone:cooter: got any more piccys:D
No mate, this is for sale so this are the only pics. Spec is in the advertisement.
Take a look at this one:
http://www.motorsportmarkt.de/bilder/rennfahrzeuge/tourenwagen/renault-5gt-mid-engined-full-specs.html
I like that, widening the kit even further looks good, is this the type of thing your thinking of Andy?
I like that, widening the kit even further looks good, is this the type of thing your thinking of Andy?
pretty much, looking to add another 30mm over hang on the front arches, and re profile the rear wing and get it looking fatter,as it taperers in quite a bit,and also add another 50mm each side;) got a standard front and rear bumper styles to fit also, as i hate the skeete bumpers:) should look fairly close to the production racer:cooter:
pretty much, looking to add another 30mm over hang on the front arches, and re profile the rear wing and get it looking fatter,as it taperers in quite a bit,and also add another 50mm each side;) got a standard front and rear bumper styles to fit also, as i hate the skeete bumpers:) should look fairly close to the production racer:cooter:
That sound awesome mate :)
I'm gonna be doing the same thing, using standard front and rear bumpers and widening them to fit the arches. :devil:
quick update , been busy this weekend making the most of the good weather, managed to get the manifold,turbo,all the bost hoses etc back on the car, ordered the exhaust wrap and tial spring, just got to get another exhaust mount fitted and wrap it ,fit the wastegate and take out the resistor in the second bank of injectors,give it an oil and filter change and fill up the fluids, then she will be ready to run:cooter::cooter::D
will get some piccys up tomorrow;)
Any more pics buddy? :burnrubber:
Any more pics buddy? :burnrubber:
weather has been ****e, but will deffo be getting some up tomorrow;)
been getting some ideas for the new bodywork planned for sept 2013 :cooter:
Tony Walker
21-12-2012, 22:22
That exhaust support bracket looked like you were making your own wishbones. If your after so much extra track width maybe that would be an option :D endles caster camber and track width adjustment.
ive got approx 70mm of adjustment on the rear rose jointed wishbone/tie rod set up already, which is more than enough:laugh:
i like to over engineer things, i have this habbit of breaking things(and changing things at the drop of a hat) think i caught it of jp :laugh::laugh::laugh:
will be rose jointing the front end late next year also:ashamed:
engine up and running again, sounds like a v8!!! the cam is a little lumpy:laugh::laugh::laugh:
the engine lost its low drone burble, and now gives out a crisper,but somewhat deepish raspy sound:pand the turbo seems responsive, 0.2 bar @3800rpm static idle:p, but to early to really tell, should be good though:D
gearbox and gears all seem to work, but the clutch is a bit hard!!!!!!well thats an understatement its ****ing hard!!!, and is very much on or off within 15mm of pedal travel!!!!!its going to take some getting use too,i dont think i will be doing much town driving in it:scared:
TNT ANDY
01-01-2013, 10:53
Nice one Andy - thought you'd died.
Let me know when you are up at Walkers, I've got a few days left in the bag.
Good to hear mate! Make a video of it idling please, really curious how it sounds :D
Tony Walker
01-01-2013, 13:53
Good to hear mate! Make a video of it idling please, really curious how it sounds :D
:agree:
latest piccys of the engine bay completed
http://i992.photobucket.com/albums/af41/turbochappers/r5gtt/P1020211.jpg
http://i992.photobucket.com/albums/af41/turbochappers/r5gtt/P1020214.jpg
http://i992.photobucket.com/albums/af41/turbochappers/r5gtt/P1020217.jpg
the exhaust wrap and exhaust system thats been wraped
http://i992.photobucket.com/albums/af41/turbochappers/r5gtt/P1020220.jpg
http://i992.photobucket.com/albums/af41/turbochappers/r5gtt/P1020221.jpg
now the new gearbox and clutch is in, i had to mod the clutch stop as the biting point had move quite a bit from the jc5 gearbox set up
http://i992.photobucket.com/albums/af41/turbochappers/r5gtt/P1020236.jpg
Looking good fella :agree:
What's left to get it on the road?
You working on it tomorrow night?
TNT ANDY
01-01-2013, 19:19
Sweet!
some more piccys of the exhaust system in place all wraped up:cool:
http://i992.photobucket.com/albums/af41/turbochappers/r5gtt/P1020226.jpg
http://i992.photobucket.com/albums/af41/turbochappers/r5gtt/P1020227.jpg
quick vid of the engine running
http://i992.photobucket.com/albums/af41/turbochappers/r5gtt/th_029.jpg (http://i992.photobucket.com/albums/af41/turbochappers/r5gtt/029.mp4)
and a quick vid of engine being turned of from idle (900rpm)
and turbo spooling down, after shut off
http://i992.photobucket.com/albums/af41/turbochappers/r5gtt/th_030.jpg (http://i992.photobucket.com/albums/af41/turbochappers/r5gtt/030.mp4)
Give it some revs, we wanna hear it breathe
The new Bill J
01-01-2013, 19:25
Give it some revs, we wanna hear it breathe
He would, but it's not 0600, and he's not in a camp site full of people asleep :cartman:
rollerbearing for the win :D
also modded the exhaust bracket,so it does'nt flex anymore:)
anyway, engine almost complete apart from swapping the in/out pipe on the wastegate, which i managed to forget to do:homer::ashamed:after plumbing it in the wrong way :laugh:
just waiting for the new air temp/egt gauge to arrive (hopefully in a week or so )and the knocktec to fit as well:cool:
i'm getting more and more excited to visitting the Frenchies because this lovely motor is there too!
great inspiration for my 5 :D
here is a few more piccys
this is the support brackets for the exhaust manifold
http://i992.photobucket.com/albums/af41/turbochappers/r5gtt/P1020203.jpg
http://i992.photobucket.com/albums/af41/turbochappers/P1020206_zps22d7ebff.jpg
turbo heat shield in place
http://i992.photobucket.com/albums/af41/turbochappers/r5gtt/P1020235.jpg
new improved exhaust hanger bracket/and high temp rubber mount in red:D
http://i992.photobucket.com/albums/af41/turbochappers/r5gtt/P1020234.jpg
Amazeing work mate looks really good
Give it some revs, we wanna hear it breathe
just for you:) although not big licks ;)
http://i992.photobucket.com/albums/af41/turbochappers/r5gtt/th_028.jpg (http://i992.photobucket.com/albums/af41/turbochappers/r5gtt/028.mp4)
the knock tec device
http://i992.photobucket.com/albums/af41/turbochappers/r5gtt/P1020219.jpg
maybe a waste of time but worth ago:innocent:
Sounds good fella, you on it tomorrow night?
Wow! Amazing quality of work, simply stunning :)
Sounds good fella, you on it tomorrow night?
have'nt got the light to work on it, and i have nothing left to do until the other ait/egt kit turn up:(;):D
Wow! Amazing quality of work, simply stunning :)
cheers dude although the body work is looking rough:(
was going to lag the runners on the exhaust manifold also,but really concerned about long term reliability :(
Fantastic progression mate :smokin:
Wow! Amazing quality of work, simply stunning :)
Looks like that scene from "Appollo 13" where they had to make a co2 filter from a load of flexi pipes and foil tape :D NASA would be proud Handy :cool:
Great work.
In the vids there is a distinct rattle. I'm guessing it's normal for these engines? Or perhaps it's something external?
SCHWARTZ
01-01-2013, 22:49
Handy I also have the knock tek as I have megasquirt let me know how it goes;)
TNT ANDY
02-01-2013, 06:56
Great work.
In the vids there is a distinct rattle. I'm guessing it's normal for these engines? Or perhaps it's something external?
I think that's Andy's Mastertorium noise!
im working on it:D:cooter:
not sure on that noise, it comes and goes. clears after a few revs and then comes back again if idling for a while, really do hope its not the bottom end knocking:(
Tony Walker
02-01-2013, 08:49
Did notice that too, perhaps its a bit of piston slap if youve got some forged ones in there? i think a few people have had that.
Did notice that too, perhaps its a bit of piston slap if youve got some forged ones in there? i think a few people have had that.
yes Tony you could be right, they are forged wossner pistons, only seems to do it if sat idling from cold.:) in the past once its been for a run there is no other noises apart from the exhaust burble at idle:cooter::D:cool:
Tony Walker
02-01-2013, 20:17
:agree:
Think you wasted your time and effort and fitted the wrong type of engine. Forget automotive, should have looked to the sky's like this old codger :eek:
http://youtu.be/CDBFAt3uqrc
http://youtu.be/ZWPqmfD-PkA
im working on it:D:cooter:
not sure on that noise, it comes and goes. clears after a few revs and then comes back again if idling for a while, really do hope its not the bottom end knocking:(
I'm betting the noise is the chewing gum ;)
Think you wasted your time and effort and fitted the wrong type of engine. Forget automotive, should have looked to the sky's like this old codger :eek:
http://youtu.be/CDBFAt3uqrc
http://youtu.be/ZWPqmfD-PkA
Wow! That thing looks pants in the first video in terms of performance. Then watch it on the 1/8 mile track in the second video! :pirate:
maybe next year;):laugh::laugh:
might try and get os84721 to stuff one in the back of his 9, that would certainly bring old codger to life:laugh::laugh::laugh:
maybe next year;):laugh::laugh:
might try and get os84721 to stuff one in the back of his 9, that would certainly bring old codger to life:laugh::laugh::laugh:
Lol it'd certainly get it shifting but no, I have other plans for the 9
Wow! That thing looks pants in the first video in terms of performance. Then watch it on the 1/8 mile track in the second video! :pirate:
I'd want it just for the noise :D
Hey Handy, how's this little beast progressing? Or has she been tucked away over the winter months?
Hey Handy, how's this little beast progressing? Or has she been tucked away over the winter months?
tucked away until the house purchase goes through and i get my new garage/workshop built :cooter:
TNT ANDY
04-03-2013, 18:33
Booooooooooo
You suck:cooter:
Welcome to the real world Mummy's boy.
tucked away until the house purchase goes through and i get my new garage/workshop built :cooter:
Fair enough buddy ;)
Booooooooooo
You suck:cooter:
Welcome to the real world Mummy's boy.
now dont be like that mr stot, it will be on the road this year, but not just yet;)
anyway get your own car in order before you booo others:p
now dont be like that mr stot, it will be on the road this year, but not just yet;)
anyway get your own car in order before you booo others:p
His has been on the road more than once in the last year though so he can booooooo and so can I :D
love the engin ein this top job mate :)
TNT ANDY
06-03-2013, 15:34
now dont be like that mr stot, it will be on the road this year, but not just yet;)
anyway get your own car in order before you booo others:p
Booooooooooooooo even more lol:cooter:
love the engin ein this top job mate :)
thankyou :)
might even get it mapped end of march :)
thankyou :)
might even get it mapped end of march :)
Fantastic, hope the mapping goes well
well time for an update, car is on the rollers on the last friday of this month, built some home made det fenders, using some of my old ear defenders from work, and bolted in place of the o.e knock sensor position on my 1.8 f7p head, (had a bolt machined up to match the head) along with the electronic knock tec device, also the 560cc injectors which i was going to use in the second fuel rail, are really low impedance, and proving to be a nightmare to get resistors for, and were probabley still to small for the boost i wanted to run:ashamed:, and i dont want to piss about with the injector loom again, so bit the bullet and bought some 80lb siemens deka high impedance injectors instead:cooter:, there suppose to be good for 875cc @ 3bar fuel pressure, coupled with the 350cc injectors ive got in the head, gives me just over 1200cc, which should be more than enough for the 2 bar of boost im going to run, without pushing the duty cycle to much;).
the high lift/short duration cam combo+uprated springs and caps /fully flowed ported head with megane inlets/williams exhaust valves should really help here, sticking with the modded o.e inlet plenum with the ****ty restrictive tb, replaced for the single 86mm id aftermarket type, i know others have had good results with shorter runners /fabricated inlets, but i really want to keep as much ftlb as possible, something shorter runners lose, now that i have a 02m gearbox in place, i should have nothing to fear:laugh::laugh:, ive got the space why not:D, that and the equal length tubular exhaust manifold should really breath all the way to 8800rpm:D although i expect i wont see full boost until around 4000/4500rpm @ 2bar:scared: but there has to be a compremise somewhere:p
i have fitted the biggest compressor housing(.70) and almost the biggest turbine housing( tial type.82) to the gtx3071r:laugh:, at 2 bar it may well be fairly close to choke up, although i have found a .106:eek: single scroll housing in the states if needed:laugh:, to be honest if it chokes up i will leave it as is , i would really like to make the 500whp, fingers and toes crossed it will with a bit of jungle juice:cooter:
Wow 2 bar boost pressure :eek:, and 500whp :burnrubber: the power to weight ratio will be awesome.
I look forward to seeing the rr results and how the setup works out mate :cool:
Have you got any update pictures? :smokin:
Wow 2 bar boost pressure :eek:, and 500whp :burnrubber: the power to weight ratio will be awesome.
I look forward to seeing the rr results and how the setup works out mate :cool:
Have you got any update pictures? :smokin:
no sorry, to be honest nothings changed on the inside/outside:ashamed:
i still intend to make composite doors/boot/wings and bumpers for the blue coffin next year , so hopefully it will reduce the kerb weight further, as well as get rid of anything else that will rot out over time ;)
my goal is to get back down to 845kg:eek:
no sorry, to be honest nothings changed on the inside/outside:ashamed:
i still intend to make composite doors/boot/wings and bumpers for the blue coffin next year , so hopefully it will reduce the kerb weight further, as well as get rid of anything else that will rot out over time ;)
my goal is to get back down to 845kg:eek:
Approximately 550hp @ fly
Approximately 845kg
Equals approximately 650hp per tonne :eek::eek::burnrubber::goodJob:
TNT ANDY
12-05-2013, 14:15
well time for an update, car is on the rollers on the last friday of this month, built some home made det fenders, using some of my old ear defenders from work, and bolted in place of the o.e knock sensor position on my 1.8 f7p head, (had a bolt machined up to match the head) along with the electronic knock tec device, also the 560cc injectors which i was going to use in the second fuel rail, are really low impedance, and proving to be a nightmare to get resistors for, and were probabley still to small for the boost i wanted to run:ashamed:, and i dont want to piss about with the injector loom again, so bit the bullet and bought some 80lb siemens deka high impedance injectors instead:cooter:, there suppose to be good for 875cc @ 3bar fuel pressure, coupled with the 350cc injectors ive got in the head, gives me just over 1200cc, which should be more than enough for the 2 bar of boost im going to run, without pushing the duty cycle to much;).
the high lift/short duration cam combo+uprated springs and caps /fully flowed ported head with megane inlets/williams exhaust valves should really help here, sticking with the modded o.e inlet plenum with the ****ty restrictive tb, replaced for the single 86mm id aftermarket type, i know others have had good results with shorter runners /fabricated inlets, but i really want to keep as much ftlb as possible, something shorter runners lose, now that i have a 02m gearbox in place, i should have nothing to fear:laugh::laugh:, ive got the space why not:D, that and the equal length tubular exhaust manifold should really breath all the way to 8800rpm:D although i expect i wont see full boost until around 4000/4500rpm @ 2bar:scared: but there has to be a compremise somewhere:p
i have fitted the biggest compressor housing(.70) and almost the biggest turbine housing( tial type.82) to the gtx3071r:laugh:, at 2 bar it may well be fairly close to choke up, although i have found a .106:eek: single scroll housing in the states if needed:laugh:, to be honest if it chokes up i will leave it as is , i would really like to make the 500whp, fingers and toes crossed it will with a bit of jungle juice:cooter:
Lookign forward to seeing this done Andy, will she be at national day?
Might do a Fast and Furious night to get the juices flowing LOL.
SCHWARTZ
12-05-2013, 15:57
I can see a wheelie coming:D
how did you get on with that knocktek device? did it indicate knock at all before you heard it? That is if you heard knock hopefully not.:cooter:
Lookign forward to seeing this done Andy, will she be at national day?
Might do a Fast and Furious night to get the juices flowing LOL.
that depends on the house buy ,still lots of bull**** going on :(
my grandparents place is now empty, so i have weekends back to myself again from next week:)
and ive got the audi to test& insure again:cry:
I can see a wheelie coming:D
how did you get on with that knocktek device? did it indicate knock at all before you heard it? That is if you heard knock hopefully not.:cooter:
give me chance:ashamed::laugh: not running boost yet, but it didnt give any false blips few months back , when running on 3 cylinders, so its got half a chance:)
(feed to the coil pack had worked loose , running on 3)
TNT ANDY
12-05-2013, 17:59
that depends on the house buy ,still lots of bull**** going on :(
my grandparents place is now empty, so i have weekends back to myself again from next week:)
and ive got the audi to test& insure again:cry:
Coolios - welcome to the world of juggling :laugh:
TNT ANDY
30-05-2013, 18:43
:sos::sos::sos:
Good luck tomorrow Andy, hope you get the figures your looking for, or there abouts. If not, get to Scoff for some real mapping.
For those that don't know, Handy's build has come to this point, and hopefully this will be the part where he stops building and gets driving.
Good luck buddy - wish I was there to witness this happening.
Get some VT shot.
:sos::sos::sos:
TNT Tricky Nicky
30-05-2013, 20:25
What time are the rollers booked? Should be in the area at lunch time
Mr Raider
30-05-2013, 21:58
Good luck Andy, hope all goes well tomorrow, still time to make ND ;)
Tony Walker
30-05-2013, 22:12
Good luck..... looking forward to the figures :D
thanks guys :cool:
will be up at emeralds from 10:00am onwards:)
post code is IP25 6DR unit 6 Watton, if anyone needs it ;)
got everything crossed, really do hope it makes the numbers this time:laugh:
Dave Reed
31-05-2013, 08:21
Good luck mate... Oil those rollers down :D
DaveMayGTT
31-05-2013, 23:05
Are u waiting for someone to ask?
What's the results?!
Tony Walker
31-05-2013, 23:15
:agree:
TNT ANDY
01-06-2013, 05:53
Sent a text yesterday, and had no reply. Must be good, last I heard they where mapping a vr6, which is typical for Walkers place,
Hope all went well buddy :)
sorry for the late reply , been really pissed of mood yesterday, to the point if there was a can of petrol ,and matches i would have tourched the ****ing thing!!!!! turned out to be a complete waste of time:(
car was worse than ever,
need to look at the cam timing today, as it was suggested it was causing the issue, although im not convinced it is that, as we tdc it and dial guaged lift etc, and all seemed acceptable as to pipers spec for 285 profile, exhaust was also seemed ok , although there are no offical measurements for these cams anywhere :(
engine would not run more than -9 degress retard on ignition full stop:cry:
and the 02m gearbox decided to throw up oil out of the breather tube when under load, is this a common effect with theses or did i over fill it, (just so its level with on fill up bolt /hole in the front of box ):scratch:
air intake temps= 55 at 24 psi although the k type air temp showed 35 degrees:scratch:
egt =680 degrees
produced boost from 2500rpm
bhp was around 330bhp at 24 psi which i thought was utter ****e, considering all the headwork, manifolds etc:cry:
im going too look again at the timing today, and sort out a breather system for the box, and find where the coolant sprung a leak from also:(
and compression test, although i will be really surprised if that shows anything a miss, the engines only done 1800miles:coffee:and a 1000 of them where running in under varying loads:sad2:
Not good.
Chin up, you'll get there.
Mines been off the road for nearly 2yrs as I wanted to "improve" the inlet design and chargecooler setup lol.
Just take it easy, it will be worth it eventually lol.
compression test done, no 2 is way down 45 psi, 3,4 were 175psi and 1 was 160 psi,
took of cam cover and had a feel, inlets fine and tappets turning freely, exhaust wouldnt budge, turned over cams until inlet/exhaust valves on no 2 cylinder all closed, and did a pressure test, no leaks found on exhaust side or in header tank or inlet, holding pressure with minimal leakage, didnt have a cylinder leak down kit :crap: but coupled the compression tester plug thread tube with a compressor line attached running 130psi, took out the cam carrier and inspected the tappets ,didnt look good, going to put in some good second hand items and try again :)
TNT Tricky Nicky
01-06-2013, 20:30
Don't get too down andy, what you've done so far is great, I love the look and feel of the blue sideways coffin, was a shame things didn't go as expected, was hoping to see a good run :(
I did say no. 2 manifold runner looked hotter than the rest so something isn't quite right, figure it out and I'm sure you'll get the results :smokin:
will post up tomorrow if its cured the problem, fingers crossed.... i dont want to really pull the head off:scared:
TNT ANDY
01-06-2013, 22:58
Gutted.
back on track:cool:
exhaust tappets had stuck, loosing most of the compression available on cylinder 2, replaced all hydraulic tappets on engine with the items out of the spare engine, and changed the exhaust cam for a slightly higher lift, while i had the top half of the cylinder head apart:D
1= 145
2=138
3=146
4=145
so 2 is a little bit down but, happy to leave for the moment, and get it back for mapping once ive sorted out the gearbox breathing issue, and the water leak, which i could not find today:scratch:
conclusion=
the new tappets i bought, when i rebuilt the engine were not up to the job, and a note to all building a f7 turbo engine, stick with the renault /ina items, if you want trouble free reliability:ashamed:
Don't forget the gearbox could be tilted back more then it does in a vw or audi.
So maybe filling it till the oil comes out of the hole is way too much...
There's suppose to be 2.3l in it.
I hope you get it mapped again soon!
Tony Walker
02-06-2013, 20:14
Glad it wasnt too serious :agree: nightmare when new parts let you down :disagree: nothing worse.
JP Racing
02-06-2013, 22:34
Good to see you found what it was :) hope it fixes the problem
Don't forget the gearbox could be tilted back more then it does in a vw or audi.
So maybe filling it till the oil comes out of the hole is way too much...
There's suppose to be 2.3l in it.
I hope you get it mapped again soon!
very true;)
i had put 2.8 litres in the gearbox :wasntme:
looking on the bright side, 330 bhp on 3 cylinders wasnt to bad:laugh::laugh:
Don't forget the gearbox could be tilted back more then it does in a vw or audi.
So maybe filling it till the oil comes out of the hole is way too much...
There's suppose to be 2.3l in it.
I hope you get it mapped again soon!
:agree:
Meter the oil in Andy, no more than the book says.
looking on the bright side, 330 bhp on 3 cylinders wasnt to bad:laugh::laugh:
:D that was a good figure for three cylinders :laugh: glad you found the problem with it mate, have you got another date for the next run?
waiting for a johno to give me some dates, but wont be able to get one before national day:(
waiting for a johno to give me some dates, but wont be able to get one before national day:(
:( sorry to hear that
JP Racing
07-06-2013, 12:59
Andy you live close to johnno why don't you get him over to put a base map on and take it to national day :) mine only had a base map on last year and it made it ;)
Hey HAndy, managed to get any further? :)
the purchase of my house and amount of work involved in getting into a liveable condition has stopped me dead in my tracks for the past 12 weeks and counting:crap:
new garge still to go up before I will continue any further:sad:
hope to carry on again with the car in feb 2014:rolleyes:
the purchase of my house and amount of work involved in getting into a liveable condition has stopped me dead in my tracks for the past 12 weeks and counting:crap:
new garge still to go up before I will continue any further:sad:
hope to carry on again with the car in feb 2014:rolleyes:
Fair enough mate :) ill start pestering you then lol ;)
I might even be pestering you for the super production style body kit at this rate:laugh::laugh:
I might even be pestering you for the super production style body kit at this rate:laugh::laugh:
:D:D I've still got to work out how I'm gonna go about it, ill worry about that stage when I get to it :laugh:
ive been thinking about more engine mods for a while now........., after seeing turbo teds (robs) fantastic results, and others, im going to follow suit, decided to really push the boat out and go extreme on this, my gtx 3071r wont get me to where i want to be its just not big enough without running huge boost levels:laugh: and will be purchasing either 76mm 11 blade comp wheel, and sticking with the turbine /housing ive already got (the cheaper option) giving me the best spooling/power output for what i already have or going gtx3582r and upgrading cams to a higher lift profile with mechanical lifters, and going for it:smokin: i know what jp, and oli will be saying, but in reality the car is unlikley to see the road this year, i already have the injectors and cc capacity in place, the rest of the valve train is already uprated, biggest inlet/exhaust valves port matched flowed head, tubular equal length manifold, 3" exhaust system , 02m box and uprated paddle clutch,leaving an upgrade to a bigger wastegate maybe? although if its going to be laggy then might not need to worry to much, im not going to settle for less than 500bhp at the rear wheels, ive spent the money, done the mods, now i want the rewards:laugh:
thoughts and views are welcome as always:)
know the gtx3076 will get me to 500bhp and quicker spooling than the gtx3582, but would the rpm spool up differences be worth holding back to a 60mm turbine wheel or going to the 68mm turbine and bigger compressor and go further ;)
Go twinscroll mate, you know it makes sense!
No need for solid lifters btw
As I said on the phone, finish the bodykit modifications and map it up with what you have now, it'll make 450bhp and that'll be plenty enough to get it shifting down the road, 450bhp will give you the same bhp per ton as a Bugatti veyron, it won't be shy fella
Matt Cole
27-03-2014, 19:00
Ive just finished my twinscroll manifold serving a borg warner s200sx capable of 600bhp. In reality I would be happy with 400bhp as after going in ashys at 402 its insane for front wheel drive!:D
Twinscroll ftw! Really want to build a s300sx or 8374 on my 5. Will be long before it gets there though...
As Oli said, get this mapped and you'l be able to make 450-500 out of the box. Then join us at ND as i NEED to see this irl :D
yeah... hear what your all saying , just chasing the numbers dream again:rolleyes::laugh::laugh:
i need to get back on it ........:devil:
Build a car to drive it, don't keep building it for so long that all the petrol in the world will have run out by the time you finish it
Twinscroll ftw! Really want to build a s300sx or 8374 on my 5. Will be long before it gets there though...
As Oli said, get this mapped and you'l be able to make 450-500 out of the box. Then join us at ND as i NEED to see this irl :D
i've still got other issues to sort out, brakes,suspension/tracking, and of course the widening of the kit, and the workshop to build before any of that:coffee:
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